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The final proof

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I believe that one of the main reasons people place their faith in science is its ability to predict a phenomenon based on a theory.

Why don't we apply the same logic to Christianity? If The Teaching of Christianity accurately predicted a phenomenon, isn't it the evidence the theory as whole is correct?

Below is a prediction and its execution.

Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

http://www.verichipcorp.com/

Sure this is just the first step in this direction, however wouldn't you agree that this leaves little space to misinterpretation?

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I accept that you understand the question perfectly well AND that you deliberately choose to avoid a key word “ELECTRONIC” in the question. An honorable answer would include that word. A dishonest answer, from a person who understands the question, could well be an attempt to avoid a critical part and avoid giving an answer that will discredit their position.

Perhaps it was an "oversight" that will be corrected with an appropriate answer.
I thought it was obvious that the seal would have to be electronic device.Otherwise how could it be used for storage of information, person's tracking and monetary transactions?
Is this an attempt to argue that an electronic system cannot be successfully hacked?
This is an attempt to show that hackers can be traced and apprehended. And the Antichrist will not be very lenient to such crimes.
How does one know all these things? Is it written in some holey book? Is it “interpretation”? Is it verified?
I already told that this is an integral part of The Dogma of The Orthodox Church.
allansmith
It seems we have two alternatives here. Either Jews drink the blood of Tzars in secret ritual sacrifices, OR Quite a few Russians are slightly mad.

I suspect the evidence strongly favors the second alternative.
Surely you meant only Russian Orthodox are mad? Clearly those Russians who are brainwashed like you should be considered normal?
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I concur. Exactly how far must one go here before one is barred?

If it's possible to be more vicious and bigoted than Smersh, what would that look like?
Why don't you try to debate, present evidence that supports your case? Of course it is much easier to hide behind backs of brainwashed goyim, isn't it?
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I think you misunderstand the concept and have a television idea of what "hacking" is about. Hard target incursion and the liquidation of funds is multiple complex issues that have absolutely nothing to do with what you have presented. What you are discussing is a mandatory and widely distributed system. Rather than a bank analogy, you would be looking at an ID theft/credit card analogy. I hope I don't have to tell you the level of criminal activity in those areas. But with an imposed mandatory, obviously totalitarian, system you have the added incentive of white-hat technicians working on the problem.

You would literally need magic to prevent someone somewhere from getting into the loop and sporking the system. Like I said previously, RFID can already be negated externally, so that tech is not viable for this problem.
Firstly, what makes you think they will not use imperfect technology.

Secondly, you can hack the seal all you want, but if you accepted one its purpose is served.

Thirdly, as you correctly said credit cards etc. can be hacked. Has it stopped increase in their use?
But please, let go of the Jewish hate. That is silly. I am strongly anti-Zionist and have several major problems with the apartheid state of Israel, but "blame the Jews" is a faded old canard that has been proven meaningless time and time again.
I don't hate jews. I was just trying to show exactly how modern development is evidence of the Antichrist as political reality. Jews got dragged into discussion only due to the fact that they are the people waiting for him. You see there are three groups of people in the world:

1. Christians who wait for the Antichrist so not to be deceived.
2. Heretics, atheists etc. who couldn't care less and will be an easy prey.
3. Jews (religious jews) who are waiting for the Antichrist as their messiah who will give them power to rule the world.

Various secret societies had always worked towards achieving this goal. And as we speak of secret societies we naturally speak of jews.

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Moderator Intervention

Comments such as
Clearly those Russians who are brainwashed like you should be considered normal?
are clearly directed at an individual and meant to be insulting. In addition to this, this entire thread has ceased being a productive debate and has become mud slinging and bigoted. I am not seeing very many points being supported with anything more than opinion and conjecture.

The moderators are talking and action should be taken soon regarding the nature of this thread.
It is a first class human tragedy that people of the earth who claim to believe in the message of Jesus, whom they describe as the Prince of Peace, show little of that belief in actual practice.

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Humanity can never had a final proof of God existence nor non-existence for this dogma was designed from the past ambiguity based on intangible that the present generation have no access on the burden of proof but rather can pool rationals in order to come nearer to the horizon of truth. Indeed we can conduct/undertake various rationals and eliminate elements of ambiguity as we go along.

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