The Qu'ran

[McCulloch]

quraan is written by allah but other books written by person so you have to read it to make sure

Well i am sure the quran is much unique from among all the other books. [...] the quran has never been changed. The quran was and is as god says himself in the quran that the quran is copyrighted. So there are millions of copys in the world in many translation--but all the same thing. Ones in english, urdu, arabic, chinese, brail... and so on. So which one shall you read? The one that says Quran or koran or coran on the cover. And as the biggining chapter introduces the author (god). You can order many free ones from islam tomorow, or even better go to your local mosque.[...]

So I went to the quran. I read it and I felt closer to god in my whole life. I actually cryed. And now i am closer to god then ever.

I have been invited to read the Qu'ran. It has been claimed that it has the answers to the questions, How can I know if God exists? and How can I know what God wants of me? It has been implied that the divine truth of the Quran is self-evident.

For Debate: If you have read the Qu'ran or part of it, is its divine origin self-evident? Does it make a convincing argument for the existence of God?

[bernee51]

They evolved from earlier mammalian ancestors.

where does the ancestors mammalian came from?

From pre-mammalian ancestors.

If you are going to follow this to its logical conclusion, I will now ask...where did Allah come from?

[muhammad rasullah]

They evolved from earlier mammalian ancestors.

where does the ancestors mammalian came from?

From pre-mammalian ancestors.

If you are going to follow this to its logical conclusion, I will now ask...where did Allah come from?

2:255 Allah. There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).

[bernee51]

They evolved from earlier mammalian ancestors.

where does the ancestors mammalian came from?

From pre-mammalian ancestors.

If you are going to follow this to its logical conclusion, I will now ask...where did Allah come from?

2:255 Allah. There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).

Quoting the koran to me is as effective as quoting the bible. It is nothing more than man's opinion as to the characteristics of their deity. To claim Allah is not subject to creation as you calim al else is is what is known as a 'special plead'. If you are not familiar with this term seek out a text on logical fallacies.

Who created Allah? And if Allah is eternal why cannot the universe, in some shape or form, be eternal?

[Fallibleone]

Converted, you have been given the titles of some books which will help you a great deal if you wish to understand the theory evolution by natural selection. Why not go and read them and then you won't have to ask these questions.

[CONVERTED TO ISLAM]

From pre-mammalian ancestors.

i will ask you more and more to prove that you not were apes

so where does the pre-mammalian ancestors came from ?

[CONVERTED TO ISLAM]

Converted, you have been given the titles of some books which will help you a great deal if you wish to understand the theory evolution by natural selection. Why not go and read them and then you won't have to ask these questions.

you can quote the answers of my questions from that books

like i do ( from quraan)

but every thing you said are written in that books

[Wyvern]

From pre-mammalian ancestors.

i will ask you more and more to prove that you not were apes

so where does the pre-mammalian ancestors came from ?

Sorry to tell you but humans are apes but they are shown to be so not through evolution but taxonomy so your line of questioning is barking up the wrong tree, not to mention you are already well past the rise of primates timewise.

[Pazuzu bin Hanbi]

Converted, you have been given the titles of some books which will help you a great deal if you wish to understand the theory evolution by natural selection. Why not go and read them and then you won't have to ask these questions.

you can quote the answers of my questions from that books

like i do ( from quraan)

but every thing you said are written in that books

I generally try not to use wikipedia as a first resort, but in this case…

TRY IT, YOU MIGHT LIKE IT!

[muhammad rasullah]

They evolved from earlier mammalian ancestors.

where does the ancestors mammalian came from?

From pre-mammalian ancestors.

If you are going to follow this to its logical conclusion, I will now ask...where did Allah come from?

2:255 Allah. There is no god but He,-the Living, the Self-subsisting, Eternal. No slumber can seize Him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to His creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of His knowledge except as He willeth. His Throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth, and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them for He is the Most High, the Supreme (in glory).

Quoting the koran to me is as effective as quoting the bible. It is nothing more than man's opinion as to the characteristics of their deity. To claim Allah is not subject to creation as you calim al else is is what is known as a 'special plead'. If you are not familiar with this term seek out a text on logical fallacies.

Who created Allah? And if Allah is eternal why cannot the universe, in some shape or form, be eternal?

Well whether you believe the quran or not doesn't stop me from using it as a source for defining who allah is since this is the only place it is located. Knowone created allah and since allah is the eternal and the quran also says there is nothing like unto him then nothing else can be eternal except allah nothing can share any simlitudes with allah otherwise it would make him less than who he is. If have a jar full of jelly beans and this is all the jeally beans there are can anybody have a jeally bean. no because I wouldn't have all the jeally beans. Just because god is eternal doesn't mean that everything else will be the same they can't be because then there would be someone or something that shares this eternal with him.

[olavisjo]

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Other than crashing planes into tall buildings, what must a man do to be saved under Islam? What does the Koran say?