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Truth IS, as Paul testified, "G-D was in The Messiah", Paul did not testify that 'g-d was the messiah'.......

The Messiah testified of, "The Only True G-D".......

And Paul testified of "ONE G-D, Father of ALL".......

The Messiah testified of, "The Only True G-D" and The Messiah testified that He had a "G-D and Father".......

Paul testified of "ONE G-D, Father of ALL".......

Paul testified, "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hid in G-D, WHO CREATED ALL things by The Messiah".......(Eph3:9)

There is Only ONE True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, and HE IS The G-D and Father(Creator) of The Messiah and His brethren.......

John 17:3 "And this is Eternal Life, that they might know YOU The Only True G-D, and The Messiah, Whom YOU have sent".......

Mark 12:32-33 "And the scribe said unto The Messiah, Well, Master, You have said The Truth: for there is ONE G-D; and there is NONE OTHER but HE. And to love HIM with all your heart, and with all your understanding, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and to love his neighbor as yourself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices".......

Rom 3:30 "Seeing it is ONE G-D, WHO shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith".......

1 Cor 8:6 "But to us there is but ONE G-D, The Father, of WHOM are all things, and we in HIM; and one Master, The Messiah, by Whom are all things, and we by Him".......

Eph 4:6 "ONE G-D, Father of ALL, WHO is above all, and through all, and in you all".......

John 4:24 "G-D is A SPIRIT: and they that worship HIM must worship HIM in Spirit and in Truth"....... Luke 24:39 The Messiah testified, "Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself, handle Me and see, for A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE FLESH AND BONES, AS you see I HAVE".......

The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL can not die.......period.......

The Messiah died and "The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL raised Him from among the dead".......

James 1:13 "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of G-D, for G-D CAN NOT BE TEMPTED with evil, neither tempts HE any man".......

Heb 4:15 "For we do not have a high priest(The Messiah) Who cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities, for He WAS in all points TEMPTED like we are, yet without sin".......

The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, HE CAN NOT BE TEMPTED with sin AS THE MESSIAH WAS.......period.......

1 Tim 2:5 "There is ONE G-D, and one mediator between G-D and men, the man The Messiah".......

James 2:19 "You believe that there is ONE G-D, you do well, yet the devils also believe, and tremble".......

John 20:17 "The Messiah said unto her, Touch Me not; for I have not yet ascended to My Father: but go to My brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto My Father, and your Father; and to My G-D, and your G-D."

Mark 3:33-35 "The Messiah answered them, saying, "Who is My mother, or My brethren"? And He looked round about on them which sat about Him, and said, "Behold my mother and my brethren! For whoever shall do The Will of G-D, the same is My brother, and My sister, and mother"".......

Rom 8:29 "Whom G-D did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of HIS Son, that The Messiah might be the firstborn among many brethren".......

Hope is you are one of the brethren of The Messiah.......

The brethren of The Messiah know there is Only ONE True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL.......

And The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, "HE Created all things by The Messiah".......

And "The Messiah is The Son of The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL".......

The Messiah testified that He had a "G-D and Father" and that His "G-D and Father" was also the "G-D and Father" of His Brethren.......

And The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, HE has no god, for HE IS G-D, and HE has no father, for HE IS Father(Creator) of ALL, and HE has no brethren, for HE IS Father(Creator) of ALL.......

Hope is there would be those who experience The Miracle that is receiving "the love of The Truth" for they will "experience The Messiah and The Power(Our Father) that raised Him from among the dead".......

The Faith of those who receive "the love of The Truth" will be grounded in Miracles, not mere colored marks(words) written on a dead tree(page) and bound in a book.......

Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world and it's systems of religion, for "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one" indeed and Truth.......

Truth is never ending....... francisTruth IS, as Paul testified, "G-D was in The Messiah", Paul did not testify that 'g-d was the messiah'.......

The Messiah testified of, "The Only True G-D".......

And Paul testified of "ONE G-D, Father of ALL".......

The Messiah testified of, "The Only True G-D" and The Messiah testified that He had a "G-D and Father".......

Paul testified of "ONE G-D, Father of ALL".......

Paul testified, "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hid in G-D, WHO CREATED ALL things by The Messiah".......(Eph3:9)

There is Only ONE True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, and HE IS The G-D and Father(Creator) of The Messiah and His brethren.......

John 17:3 "And this is Eternal Life, that they might know YOU The Only True G-D, and The Messiah, Whom YOU have sent".......

Mark 12:32-33 "And the scribe said unto The Messiah, Well, Master, You have said The Truth: for there is ONE G-D; and there is NONE OTHER but HE. And to love HIM with all your heart, and with all your understanding, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and to love his neighbor as yourself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices".......

Rom 3:30 "Seeing it is ONE G-D, WHO shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith".......

1 Cor 8:6 "But to us there is but ONE G-D, The Father, of WHOM are all things, and we in HIM; and one Master, The Messiah, by Whom are all things, and we by Him".......

Eph 4:6 "ONE G-D, Father of ALL, WHO is above all, and through all, and in you all".......

John 4:24 "G-D is A SPIRIT: and they that worship HIM must worship HIM in Spirit and in Truth"....... Luke 24:39 The Messiah testified, "Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself, handle Me and see, for A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE FLESH AND BONES, AS you see I HAVE".......

The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL can not die.......period.......

The Messiah died and "The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL raised Him from among the dead".......

James 1:13 "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of G-D, for G-D CAN NOT BE TEMPTED with evil, neither tempts HE any man".......

Heb 4:15 "For we do not have a high priest(The Messiah) Who cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities, for He WAS in all points TEMPTED like we are, yet without sin".......

The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, HE CAN NOT BE TEMPTED with sin AS THE MESSIAH WAS.......period.......

1 Tim 2:5 "There is ONE G-D, and one mediator between G-D and men, the man The Messiah".......

James 2:19 "You believe that there is ONE G-D, you do well, yet the devils also believe, and tremble".......

John 20:17 "The Messiah said unto her, Touch Me not; for I have not yet ascended to My Father: but go to My brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto My Father, and your Father; and to My G-D, and your G-D."

Mark 3:33-35 "The Messiah answered them, saying, "Who is My mother, or My brethren"? And He looked round about on them which sat about Him, and said, "Behold my mother and my brethren! For whoever shall do The Will of G-D, the same is My brother, and My sister, and mother"".......

Rom 8:29 "Whom G-D did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of HIS Son, that The Messiah might be the firstborn among many brethren".......

Hope is you are one of the brethren of The Messiah.......

The brethren of The Messiah know there is Only ONE True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL.......

And The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, "HE Created all things by The Messiah".......

And "The Messiah is The Son of The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL".......

The Messiah testified that He had a "G-D and Father" and that His "G-D and Father" was also the "G-D and Father" of His Brethren.......

And The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, HE has no god, for HE IS G-D, and HE has no father, for HE IS Father(Creator) of ALL, and HE has no brethren, for HE IS Father(Creator) of ALL.......

Hope is there would be those who experience The Miracle that is receiving "the love of The Truth" for they will "experience The Messiah and The Power(Our Father) that raised Him from among the dead".......

The Faith of those who receive "the love of The Truth" will be grounded in Miracles, not mere colored marks(words) written on a dead tree(page) and bound in a book.......

Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world and it's systems of religion, for "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one" indeed and Truth.......

Truth is never ending....... francis

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elderchild wrote:You are the one "suffering", not i ;-(
Well, yes. I am suffering from not being able to make much sense out of what you post. I can end that suffering simply by stop reading them.
elderchild wrote:You have clearly proven that you never received "the love of The Truth" ;-(
You have clearly proven that you do not love truth. You do not test all things, examining them carefully to discern truth from falsehood. How do you suppose that one receives the love of the Truth? By submitting unquestionably to the words of some religious sect? Your version of truth seems quite Orwellian to me.
elderchild wrote:Receiving "the love of The Truth" is to receive that which is Real, for only that which is Real is Eternal. Needs be that you receive "the love of Eternal Truth not the shadows and vapors that are temporal truths, which are here today and
gone tomorrow just like those who believe "in" them.......
I really don't want to sound insulting, but this collection of words does not appear to convey any kind of meaning whatsoever.
elderchild wrote:Sadly, you do not realize that you have been braindirtyed to the utmost by both the secular and religious educational processes of this wicked world ;-(
I see your point. I insist that there be evidence to support ideas that are presented to me. I empirically test those ideas to see whether they fit in with what can be known. That, presumably, is what you mean by braindirtyed. You, on the other hand, have an untested version of truth that you hold uncritically, pure and unspotted by anything resembling rational thought or evidential support. That would but the opposite condition, known as brainwashed. I disagree with your assessment of which condition is sad.
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Elderchild-

I happen to agree with much of your message and carry a very similar understanding of God. It is clear that you feel strongly about sharing your views and trying to help others see what we believe is true.

However, it is your delivery that may be causing the trouble. I can uderstand the idea that the truth may be offensive to some. But, I do not feel that it is our job 'to offend' others. After all, are we not ALL God's children?

You and I may feel sad that some are 'missing out' on what we feel is a richer experience available through God, but we must also respect the ability to choose that God has given us. We do not need to insult to share the truth of God. Your message reeks of truth, in my opinion and you make some very good points about God being the One true Father, etc. Who are we to make these judgements on others - is God not the One true judge?

Your message may have been received by some if delivered in a kinder,more loving fashion. This does not say that you are 'pleasing men' - this says that you are pleasing God by trying to present a message of Him in a loving way.

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justifyothers wrote:Elderchild-
I happen to agree with much of your message and carry a very similar understanding of God. It is clear that you feel strongly about sharing your views and trying to help others see what we believe is true.

However, it is your delivery that may be causing the trouble. I can uderstand the idea that the truth may be offensive to some. But, I do not feel that it is our job 'to offend' others. After all, are we not ALL God's children?

You and I may feel sad that some are 'missing out' on what we feel is a richer experience available through God, but we must also respect the ability to choose that God has given us. We do not need to insult to share the truth of God. Your message reeks of truth, in my opinion and you make some very good points about God being the One true Father, etc. Who are we to make these judgements on others - is God not the One true judge?

Your message may have been received by some if delivered in a kinder,more loving fashion. This does not say that you are 'pleasing men' - this says that you are pleasing God by trying to present a message of Him in a loving way.
It is a blessing to receive that which resembles a positive comment.......

Thankfully, i have received of the grace that allows me to deal with rejection and
ridicule, for positive responses are few and far between. i have grown accustomed
to the rejection and ridicule and so my usual cry has been:

"Father Help! and HE does".......

Now if sharing The Truth offends then it is not i that has offended. i most certainly don't seek to "sugar coat" as those do "who with fair words and good speeches
deceive the hearts of the simple".......

Mostly those who have posted are "lovers of this wicked world and their own life
in, and of it" ;-( They will take offense at anything that would upset their "ease of
life" and personal philosophy ;-(

And The Messiah, did He ever offend anyone?

And The Apostles, did they ever offend anyone?

Judge! judge! everyone saying "you can't judge me"! and/or "G-D is the judge"!

And they are right about one thing, apart from worldly(babylonian) 'legal' authority
no human being can judge.......

Yet, what of DISCERNMENT? What of "exercising your senses in the discernment
of that which is 'good' and that which is 'evil'?"

And the one who discerns and declares some'thing' to be 'dark' , is immediately accused of 'judging' by the one who see's the same 'thing' as 'light' ;-(

Father Help! and HE does.......

Oh, how braindirtyed the multitudes are, and so it is they but follow the broad way
to destruction" ;-(

Yet while there is the breath(spirit) of life there is hope!

For Miracles do happen.......

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McCulloch wrote:
elderchild wrote:You are the one "suffering", not i ;-(
Well, yes. I am suffering from not being able to make much sense out of what you post. I can end that suffering simply by stop reading them.
elderchild wrote:You have clearly proven that you never received "the love of The Truth" ;-(
You have clearly proven that you do not love truth. You do not test all things, examining them carefully to discern truth from falsehood. How do you suppose that one receives the love of the Truth? By submitting unquestionably to the words of some religious sect? Your version of truth seems quite Orwellian to me.
elderchild wrote:Receiving "the love of The Truth" is to receive that which is Real, for only that which is Real is Eternal. Needs be that you receive "the love of Eternal Truth not the shadows and vapors that are temporal truths, which are here today and
gone tomorrow just like those who believe "in" them.......
I really don't want to sound insulting, but this collection of words does not appear to convey any kind of meaning whatsoever.
elderchild wrote:Sadly, you do not realize that you have been braindirtyed to the utmost by both the secular and religious educational processes of this wicked world ;-(
I see your point. I insist that there be evidence to support ideas that are presented to me. I empirically test those ideas to see whether they fit in with what can be known. That, presumably, is what you mean by braindirtyed. You, on the other hand, have an untested version of truth that you hold uncritically, pure and unspotted by anything resembling rational thought or evidential support. That would but the opposite condition, known as brainwashed. I disagree with your assessment of which condition is sad.
The Truth to an atheist is liken unto "a fly in the pudding" ;-(

And Truth is that one's "g-d" is that which, what or whom one serves.......

Just happens that atheism is one of this wicked world's most popular 'religions', for
atheists see their g-d each and every time they see their reflection in a mirror ;-(

And simply, 'religion' is anti-messiah.......

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elderchild wrote:Just happens that atheism is one of this wicked world's most popular 'religions', for atheists see their g-d each and every time they see their reflection in a mirror ;-(

And simply, 'religion' is anti-messiah.......
Atheist - a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

Based on the above definition (provided by dictionary.com) Atheists do not believe or deny the existence of a "God" or "Gods". Based on this your sentence about Atheist is fundamentally flawed. An Atheist isn't their own "God" as we don't believe in such.

Atheism is the fastest growing religion in America, yes (last time I checked anyway: McCulloch can you verify this?).

Wicked - evil or morally bad in principle or practice; sinful; iniquitous.

How is Atheism evil or morally bad or sinful? We seek the truth based on evidence and facts, rather than just believing and blindly following a 2000 year old book.

I am an Atheist and I believe killing is bad, that rape is bad, that stealing is wrong, that lying is wrong (in some cases. We all know if a woman asks you if "They look fat in this dress" you answer "No, you look exquisite" because you don't want to be slapped), that cheating on your partner is wrong, ect.

So tell me where am I practicing evil or unmoral things? And yeah I have checked under my bed for dead bodies. I haven't found any.
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ConfinedIX wrote:
elderchild wrote:Just happens that atheism is one of this wicked world's most popular 'religions', for atheists see their g-d each and every time they see their reflection in a mirror ;-(

And simply, 'religion' is anti-messiah.......
Atheist - a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.

Based on the above definition (provided by dictionary.com) Atheists do not believe or deny the existence of a "God" or "Gods". Based on this your sentence about Atheist is fundamentally flawed. An Atheist isn't their own "God" as we don't believe in such.

Atheism is the fastest growing religion in America, yes (last time I checked anyway: McCulloch can you verify this?).

Wicked - evil or morally bad in principle or practice; sinful; iniquitous.

How is Atheism evil or morally bad or sinful? We seek the truth based on evidence and facts, rather than just believing and blindly following a 2000 year old book.

I am an Atheist and I believe killing is bad, that rape is bad, that stealing is wrong, that lying is wrong (in some cases. We all know if a woman asks you if "They look fat in this dress" you answer "No, you look exquisite" because you don't want to be slapped), that cheating on your partner is wrong, ect.

So tell me where am I practicing evil or unmoral things? And yeah I have checked under my bed for dead bodies. I haven't found any.
Simply, "the g-d of this world" is "the father of lies" and those who "love his wicked
world and their own selflife in, and of it" are his captive slaves ;-( They but serve
'time(for m-o-n-e-y)' in the prison that is his world ;-(

And as for dictionary definitions and all things that are but "colored marks written
on a dead tree"? They are for such slaves, for publishing is a prime tool used of
this world's educational processes, both secular and religious, in the braindirtying
of the multitudes ;-(

Truth speaks, "your g-d is that which, what or whom you desire to serve" and
today the g-d of this world uses m-o-n-e-y as a primary tool for enslavement ;-(
However is that which creates the thing(m-o-n-e-y) that is the g-d, not the thing
itself.......

And atheists who deny they are enslaved by the g-d of this world and who
declare they have no religion? They are religion personified indeed and Truth!
For atheists see their version of a g-d each and every time they see their own
reflection in a mirror ;-(

Yet there is hope!

For Miracles do happen.......

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Seriously arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall or a broken record player at best. You offer nothing, but the same ramblings. Also, you refuse or are avoiding to answer my questions. My previous post asked you a few simple questions, yet you do not even dignify them with a proper response. Why?
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ConfinedIX wrote:Seriously arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall or a broken record player at best. You offer nothing, but the same ramblings. Also, you refuse or are avoiding to answer my questions. My previous post asked you a few simple questions, yet you do not even dignify them with a proper response. Why?
Silence is a response.......

A proper response?

i have given proper responses and you consider them improper ramblings and so
why is it that you would have me do as you say, and say as you do?

There is ONE who would give you a "proper response", however i do not believe
you are listening, so who then is to blame?

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