Does this document prove that the Quran contains knowledge of the world that primitive man couldn't possibly have known? Does it prove that Allah is the one true God? Please justify your response.Risky wrote:
Actually look through the Book(it's online I provide the link below lol) before you discredit it. I know the Title may throw you off, and you'll probably click the exit right then and there... but go through it.. check the table of contents and see whats most interesting...
http://www.sunnahonline.com/ilm/quran/qms.pdf
*~In reality what is in it could not have been known 1,400 years ago. So it proves God exists... and if you don't think so, well it lessens the chances that he doesn't... If you think one is vague go on to the next one, I assure you most of the verses are direct statements that meet up with what is now known.
Muslim claims of scientific accuracy in the Quran
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Post #41TrueReligion wrote: Which chapter is names after devil or demons? dont bring wront interpretation, it will be reported now apple_pie
Look at this beauty...
Sura 44 The Rising Evilnamed in honor of demons
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Post #42I pity your arabic, and your mental condition as wellApple Pie wrote:TrueReligion wrote: Which chapter is names after devil or demons? dont bring wront interpretation, it will be reported now apple_pie
Look at this beauty...
Sura 44 The Rising Evilnamed in honor of demons
Chapter -44 is AD-DUKHAN. (Smoke).
Does smoke seems equal to evil and demons to you?
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Re: Muslim claims of scientific accuracy in the Quran
Post #44It seems he is getting his information from http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Main_PageTrueReligion wrote:I pity your arabic, and your mental condition as wellApple Pie wrote:TrueReligion wrote: Which chapter is names after devil or demons? dont bring wront interpretation, it will be reported now apple_pie
Look at this beauty...
Sura 44 The Rising Evilnamed in honor of demons
Chapter -44 is AD-DUKHAN. (Smoke).
Does smoke seems equal to evil and demons to you?
which has in it
Please note that this is not an overview of Islam, rather it is a collection of quotations compiled to aid us in our quest to expose the truth and help Muslims leave Islam.
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�
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Post #45Yes I know, but the problem is, he/she dont want to admit, and not keen to reply whatever is asked in reply to the posts. Its not getting into a healthy debate now.goat wrote:It seems he is getting his information from http://www.wikiislam.com/wiki/Main_PageTrueReligion wrote:I pity your arabic, and your mental condition as wellApple Pie wrote:TrueReligion wrote: Which chapter is names after devil or demons? dont bring wront interpretation, it will be reported now apple_pie
Look at this beauty...
Sura 44 The Rising Evilnamed in honor of demons
Chapter -44 is AD-DUKHAN. (Smoke).
Does smoke seems equal to evil and demons to you?
which has in it
Please note that this is not an overview of Islam, rather it is a collection of quotations compiled to aid us in our quest to expose the truth and help Muslims leave Islam.
Re: Muslim claims of scientific accuracy in the Quran
Post #46TrueReligion wrote:I pity your arabic, and your mental condition as wellApple Pie wrote:TrueReligion wrote: Which chapter is names after devil or demons? dont bring wront interpretation, it will be reported now apple_pie
Look at this beauty...
Sura 44 The Rising Evilnamed in honor of demons
Chapter -44 is AD-DUKHAN. (Smoke).
Does smoke seems equal to evil and demons to you?
Let's look...
= dukhanin
dukhanin definition:
Smoke; evil, or mischief when it arises. Dearth, drought, sterility, or unfruitfulness; and hunger, gas; vaporous matter with suspended particles; fume resembling smoke; something fleeting or beclouding; colored smoke; suppressed state; dust; famine in which people feel a sort of smoke hanging before their eyes or because of no rain for a long time the atmosphere becomes dusty; drought.
It comes from the root dakhana, which means the fire smoked, or sent up smoke, the smoke, and the dust rose; or spread, or diffused itself; the smoke of the fire became vehement, or became excited, or raised, in consequence of its having fireweed, in a fresh or green state, thrown upon it, and being marred; to smoke, raise smoke or dust, become altered, be ill-natured, fumigate, grope clumsily, spoil, fail to handle properly. It was, or became, of a dusky or dingy color, inkling to black, like the color of iron. A duskiness or dinginess inkling to blackness, like the color of smoke, or like the color of iron: it is in sheep, or a horse and similar beasts, or in a garment, and in a sword. The appearance, or appearing, of conflict and faction, sedition, discord, or the like; rancor, malevolence, malice, or spite; badness, corruptness, or wickedness, of nature or disposition.
References:
An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume three, pp. 861 - 862
The Dictionary of the Holy Quran, 1st edition, Abdul Mannan Omar p. 175
Occurrences of dukhanin in the Koran: 2
Locations: 41.11, 44.10
Now...this term, all by itself, speaks of evil and wickedness.....so why would this word be selected as a title for a chapter in your book of faith?
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Post #471st time I come to know that smoke means evil. dont know which world you live in:)Apple Pie wrote:TrueReligion wrote:I pity your arabic, and your mental condition as wellApple Pie wrote:TrueReligion wrote: Which chapter is names after devil or demons? dont bring wront interpretation, it will be reported now apple_pie
Look at this beauty...
Sura 44 The Rising Evilnamed in honor of demons
Chapter -44 is AD-DUKHAN. (Smoke).
Does smoke seems equal to evil and demons to you?
Let's look...
= dukhanin
dukhanin definition:
Smoke; evil, or mischief when it arises. Dearth, drought, sterility, or unfruitfulness; and hunger, gas; vaporous matter with suspended particles; fume resembling smoke; something fleeting or beclouding; colored smoke; suppressed state; dust; famine in which people feel a sort of smoke hanging before their eyes or because of no rain for a long time the atmosphere becomes dusty; drought.
It comes from the root dakhana, which means the fire smoked, or sent up smoke, the smoke, and the dust rose; or spread, or diffused itself; the smoke of the fire became vehement, or became excited, or raised, in consequence of its having fireweed, in a fresh or green state, thrown upon it, and being marred; to smoke, raise smoke or dust, become altered, be ill-natured, fumigate, grope clumsily, spoil, fail to handle properly. It was, or became, of a dusky or dingy color, inkling to black, like the color of iron. A duskiness or dinginess inkling to blackness, like the color of smoke, or like the color of iron: it is in sheep, or a horse and similar beasts, or in a garment, and in a sword. The appearance, or appearing, of conflict and faction, sedition, discord, or the like; rancor, malevolence, malice, or spite; badness, corruptness, or wickedness, of nature or disposition.
References:
An Arabic-English Lexicon, E.W. Lane, volume three, pp. 861 - 862
The Dictionary of the Holy Quran, 1st edition, Abdul Mannan Omar p. 175
Occurrences of dukhanin in the Koran: 2
Locations: 41.11, 44.10
Now...this term, all by itself, speaks of evil and wickedness.....so why would this word be selected as a title for a chapter in your book of faith?
Re: Muslim claims of scientific accuracy in the Quran
Post #48You need to be able to define the terms that you are using, brother.TrueReligion wrote: 1st time I come to know that smoke means evil. dont know which world you live in:)
This is the very premise.
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Post #49No its not,Apple Pie wrote:You need to be able to define the terms that you are using, brother.TrueReligion wrote: 1st time I come to know that smoke means evil. dont know which world you live in:)
This is the very premise.
A water can be evil as well, when it turns into storm, and disaster it can bring to people. right?
But if you give definition of water as an evil, people will just laugh and nothing else.
Re: Muslim claims of scientific accuracy in the Quran
Post #50Tossing around terms (especially extinct Arabic ones) without first defining them, will cause you to go down the wrong path, brother...TrueReligion wrote:No its not,Apple Pie wrote:You need to be able to define the terms that you are using, brother.TrueReligion wrote: 1st time I come to know that smoke means evil. dont know which world you live in:)
This is the very premise.
A water can be evil as well, when it turns into storm, and disaster it can bring to people. right?
But if you give definition of water as an evil, people will just laugh and nothing else.
