Could this be the new trend for Gays and Christianity?
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Could this be the new trend for Gays and Christianity?
Post #1I have never though that Gays should be discriminated and denigrated by all the religions that do so.
To me, sin has to have a victim and with adult gays, there is none.
Could this be the new trend for Gays and Christianity?
I hope so.
Do you?
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Re: Could this be the new trend for Gays and Christianity?
Post #41[/quote]Benoni wrote:Sin is a factor in this world. We all sin and come short of the glory of God. That is why we need Jesus blood which reversed the curse.
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So, to be saved, wee all have to line up and take advantage of the murder of an innocent man.
How utterly immoral.
The vicarious sacrifice of Jesus was refused by God. As it should have been. It was immoral.
Why have you forsaken me is answered here.
Pro 21:3 To do justice and judgment [is] more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.
Psa 49:7 None [of them] can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
To think that a God needs human sacrifice to forgive man is just too stupid and barbaric to consider.
Sacrificing ones self to ones self is also illogical.
I guess that when someone becomes homophobic, logic and morals go out the window.
Regards
DL
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Re: Could this be the new trend for Gays and Christianity?
Post #42This is not debate. It is the recitiation of a creed.Benoni wrote:Sin is a factor in this world. We all sin and come short of the glory of God. That is why we need Jesus blood which reversed the curse.
More specifically, even as a creed, it is a literalist expression of sin and atonement theology, only one of several options within christianity.
Re: Could this be the new trend for Gays and Christianity?
Post #43Moderator Comment
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... php?t=9741
Some of the recent debate has been over whether homosexuality or homosexual acts should be considered sinful. That can certainly be debated within this forum. However, if a member wishes to debate this question under the assumptions that the Bible is authoritative (which does not necessarily include being inerrant), then the Theology Forum might be more appropriate.
As a reminder, let me point out the guidelines for the Christianity and Apologetics Forum.Slopeshoulder wrote:This is not debate. It is the recitiation of a creed.Benoni wrote:Sin is a factor in this world. We all sin and come short of the glory of God. That is why we need Jesus blood which reversed the curse.
More specifically, even as a creed, it is a literalist expression of sin and atonement theology, only one of several options within christianity.
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... php?t=9741
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Some of the recent debate has been over whether homosexuality or homosexual acts should be considered sinful. That can certainly be debated within this forum. However, if a member wishes to debate this question under the assumptions that the Bible is authoritative (which does not necessarily include being inerrant), then the Theology Forum might be more appropriate.
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Re: Could this be the new trend for Gays and Christianity?
Post #44No, it doesn't show anything. It's not an argument. It's just a label.Greatest I Am wrote:Your right it does not. It just shows your backward and immoral thinking.Euphrates wrote: Branding my "faction" of Christianity as "backward" doesn't fix your flawed argument.
Are you even trying to address my argument? It sounds like you're going to, but then you never do. I can't tell if you're begging the question, or just ignoring the question.Greatest I Am wrote:There is no victim in both of the scenarios given. Why call them sins.
Re: Could this be the new trend for Gays and Christianity?
Post #45Call what you want. It is more then just another theology; homosexuality just like adultry are sins in the christian belief.
The blood of Jesus is the solution according to God's Word to which many of us believe in.
The blood of Jesus is the solution according to God's Word to which many of us believe in.
Slopeshoulder wrote:This is not debate. It is the recitiation of a creed.Benoni wrote:Sin is a factor in this world. We all sin and come short of the glory of God. That is why we need Jesus blood which reversed the curse.
More specifically, even as a creed, it is a literalist expression of sin and atonement theology, only one of several options within christianity.
Re: Could this be the new trend for Gays and Christianity?
Post #46Sorry can't help you.
1 Corinthians 2:14 (New King James Version)
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
How utterly immoral.
The vicarious sacrifice of Jesus was refused by God. As it should have been. It was immoral.
Why have you forsaken me is answered here.
Pro 21:3 To do justice and judgment [is] more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.
Psa 49:7 None [of them] can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
To think that a God needs human sacrifice to forgive man is just too stupid and barbaric to consider.
Sacrificing ones self to ones self is also illogical.
I guess that when someone becomes homophobic, logic and morals go out the window.
Regards
DL[/quote]
1 Corinthians 2:14 (New King James Version)
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
So, to be saved, wee all have to line up and take advantage of the murder of an innocent man.Greatest I Am wrote:Benoni wrote:Sin is a factor in this world. We all sin and come short of the glory of God. That is why we need Jesus blood which reversed the curse.
[.
How utterly immoral.
The vicarious sacrifice of Jesus was refused by God. As it should have been. It was immoral.
Why have you forsaken me is answered here.
Pro 21:3 To do justice and judgment [is] more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.
Psa 49:7 None [of them] can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
To think that a God needs human sacrifice to forgive man is just too stupid and barbaric to consider.
Sacrificing ones self to ones self is also illogical.
I guess that when someone becomes homophobic, logic and morals go out the window.
Regards
DL[/quote]
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Re: Could this be the new trend for Gays and Christianity?
Post #47What are you talking about? What question?Euphrates wrote:No, it doesn't show anything. It's not an argument. It's just a label.Greatest I Am wrote:Your right it does not. It just shows your backward and immoral thinking.Euphrates wrote: Branding my "faction" of Christianity as "backward" doesn't fix your flawed argument.
Are you even trying to address my argument? It sounds like you're going to, but then you never do. I can't tell if you're begging the question, or just ignoring the question.Greatest I Am wrote:There is no victim in both of the scenarios given. Why call them sins.
Regards
DL
God is a cosmic consciousness.
Telepathy the key.
Telepathy the key.
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Re: Could this be the new trend for Gays and Christianity?
Post #48You keep saying they are sins but never tell us why.Benoni wrote:Call what you want. It is more then just another theology; homosexuality just like adultry are sins in the christian belief.
The blood of Jesus is the solution according to God's Word to which many of us believe in.Slopeshoulder wrote:This is not debate. It is the recitiation of a creed.Benoni wrote:Sin is a factor in this world. We all sin and come short of the glory of God. That is why we need Jesus blood which reversed the curse.
More specifically, even as a creed, it is a literalist expression of sin and atonement theology, only one of several options within christianity.
Do so if you know and are not following dogma blindly.
Regards
DL
God is a cosmic consciousness.
Telepathy the key.
Telepathy the key.
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Re: Could this be the new trend for Gays and Christianity?
Post #49[/quote]Benoni wrote:Sorry can't help you.
1 Corinthians 2:14 (New King James Version)
14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
So, to be saved, wee all have to line up and take advantage of the murder of an innocent man.Greatest I Am wrote:Benoni wrote:Sin is a factor in this world. We all sin and come short of the glory of God. That is why we need Jesus blood which reversed the curse.
[.
How utterly immoral.
The vicarious sacrifice of Jesus was refused by God. As it should have been. It was immoral.
Why have you forsaken me is answered here.
Pro 21:3 To do justice and judgment [is] more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.
Psa 49:7 None [of them] can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:
To think that a God needs human sacrifice to forgive man is just too stupid and barbaric to consider.
Sacrificing ones self to ones self is also illogical.
I guess that when someone becomes homophobic, logic and morals go out the window.
Regards
DL
I know you cannot help. Thumpers can't think that well.
Regards
DL
God is a cosmic consciousness.
Telepathy the key.
Telepathy the key.
Re: Could this be the new trend for Gays and Christianity?
Post #50Homosexuality is persent in the animal world. Do homosexual bears sin?Benoni wrote:Call what you want. It is more then just another theology; homosexuality just like adultry are sins in the christian belief.
The blood of Jesus is the solution according to God's Word to which many of us believe in.Slopeshoulder wrote:This is not debate. It is the recitiation of a creed.Benoni wrote:Sin is a factor in this world. We all sin and come short of the glory of God. That is why we need Jesus blood which reversed the curse.
More specifically, even as a creed, it is a literalist expression of sin and atonement theology, only one of several options within christianity.