Evolution is a fact, let me show you why.

[Dr.Physics]

Here is the evidence for biological evolution:

-Paleontology (fossil record)
-Genetics (comparative sequence analysis, phylogenetic reconstruction)
-Comparative anatomy (common morphology, and living examples)
-geographical distribution (Continental distribution, Island biogeography, Endemism of species, Adaptive radiations)
-Comparative physiology and biochemistry (Universal biochemical organisation and molecular variance patterns)
-Observed natural selection (E.Coli in the lab, lactose intolerance in humans, Nylon eating bacteria ect... )
-Observed speciation (examples: Blackclap, Drosophila melanogaster, Polar bear, ect...)
-Artificial selection (dog breeding, ect...)

in summation, evolution is one of, if not the most sound scientific fact that exists, because of the extensive reasons listed above. checkmate, now lets move on

[I AM ALL I AM]

G'day Dr.Physics.

It appears that pope John Paul II agreed with you ...

[center]Pope John Paul II Declares Evolution to be Fact![/center]

Pope John Paul II, on the 23rd of October, 1996, while speaking to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences plenary session at the Vatican, declared the evolutionary theories of Charles Darwin to be fact, tacitly acknowledging that man evolved from the apes, and reducing the biblical account of Genesis to that of mere fable!

TO ACADEMICIANS: TRUTH CANNOT CONTRADICT TRUTH

VATICAN CITY, OCT 23, 1996 (VIS) - In a Message made public today to the members of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, meeting this week in the Vatican in plenary session, the Holy Father recalled that Pope Pius XI, who restored this academy in 1936, called this group of scholars "the Church's 'scientific senate'" and asked them "to serve the truth."

The Pope expressed delight on the plenary's theme on the origin of life and evolution, "a basic theme which greatly interests the Church, as Revelation contains, for its part, teachings concerning the nature and origins of man." If the scientifically-reached conclusions and those contained in Revelation on the origin of life seem to counter each other, he said, "in what direction should we seek their solution? We know in effect that truth cannot contradict truth."

John Paul II, noting the academy's "reflection on science at the dawn of the third millennium," observed that "in the domain of inanimate and animate nature, the evolution of science and its applications make new questions arise. The Church can grasp their scope all the better as she knows their basic aspects."

He pointed to the Church's magisterium on the question of the origin of life and evolution, citing in particular Pius XII's 1950 Encyclical "Humani Generis" and the conciliar Constitution "Gaudium et Spes."

The Pope drew the academicians' attention to "the need for a correct interpretation of the inspired word, of a rigorous hermeneutics. It is fitting to set forth well the limits of the meaning proper to Scripture, rejecting undue interpretations which make it say what it does not have the intention of saying."

"'Humani Generis'," he stated, "considered the doctrine of 'evolutionism' as a serious hypothesis, worthy of a more deeply studied investigation and reflection on a par with the opposite hypothesis. ... Today, more than a half century after this encyclical, new knowledge leads us to recognize in the theory of evolution more than a hypothesis. ... The convergence, neither sought nor induced, of results of work done independently one from the other, constitutes in itself a significant argument in favor of this theory."

He continued: "The elaboration of a theory such as that of evolution, while obeying the exigency of homogeneity with the data of observation, borrows certain ideas from the philosophy of nature. To tell the truth, more than the theory of evolution, one must speak of the theories of evolution. ... There are thus materialistic and reductionist readings and spiritual readings."

"The magisterium of the Church is directly interested in the question of evolution because this touches upon the concept of man, ... created in the image and likeness of God. ... Pius XII underlined this essential point: 'if the origin of the human body is sought in living matter which existed before it, the spiritual soul is directly created by God.' Consequently, the theories of evolution which, as a result of the philosophies which inspire them, consider the spirit as emerging from forces of living matter or as a simple epiphenomenon of this matter, are incompatible with the truth about man. They are moreover incapable of laying the foundation for the dignity of the person."

"Consideration of the method used in diverse orders of knowledge allows for the concordance of two points of view which seem irreconcilable. The sciences of observation describe and measure with ever greater precision the multiple manifestations of life and place them on a timeline. The moment of passing over to the spiritual is not the object of an observation of this type, which can nevertheless reveal, on an experimental level, a series of very useful signs about the specificity of the human being. But the experience of metaphysical knowledge, of the awareness of self and of its reflexive nature, that of the moral conscience, that of liberty, or still yet the aesthetic and religious experience, are within the competence of philosophical analysis and reflection, while theology extracts from it the final meaning according to the Creator's designs."

Continued at ... http://biblelight.net/darwin.htm

[micatala]

Here is the evidence for biological evolution:

-Paleontology (fossil record)
-Genetics (comparative sequence analysis, phylogenetic reconstruction)
-Comparative anatomy (common morphology, and living examples)
-geographical distribution (Continental distribution, Island biogeography, Endemism of species, Adaptive radiations)
-Comparative physiology and biochemistry (Universal biochemical organisation and molecular variance patterns)
-Observed natural selection (E.Coli in the lab, lactose intolerance in humans, Nylon eating bacteria ect... )
-Observed speciation (examples: Blackclap, Drosophila melanogaster, Polar bear, ect...)
-Artificial selection (dog breeding, ect...)

in summation, evolution is one of, if not the most sound scientific fact that exists, because of the extensive reasons listed above. checkmate, now lets move on

No argument from me.

Just as a question, in what way do polar bears provide an example of observed speciation?

[Darias]

Here is the evidence for biological evolution:

-Paleontology (fossil record)
-Genetics (comparative sequence analysis, phylogenetic reconstruction)
-Comparative anatomy (common morphology, and living examples)
-geographical distribution (Continental distribution, Island biogeography, Endemism of species, Adaptive radiations)
-Comparative physiology and biochemistry (Universal biochemical organisation and molecular variance patterns)
-Observed natural selection (E.Coli in the lab, lactose intolerance in humans, Nylon eating bacteria ect... )
-Observed speciation (examples: Blackclap, Drosophila melanogaster, Polar bear, ect...)
-Artificial selection (dog breeding, ect...)

in summation, evolution is one of, if not the most sound scientific fact that exists, because of the extensive reasons listed above. checkmate, now lets move on

1. I believe in evolution and I'm a Christian. Is there a point to this post?


2.

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[mastahads]

Here is the evidence for biological evolution:

-Paleontology (fossil record)
-Genetics (comparative sequence analysis, phylogenetic reconstruction)
-Comparative anatomy (common morphology, and living examples)
-geographical distribution (Continental distribution, Island biogeography, Endemism of species, Adaptive radiations)
-Comparative physiology and biochemistry (Universal biochemical organisation and molecular variance patterns)
-Observed natural selection (E.Coli in the lab, lactose intolerance in humans, Nylon eating bacteria ect... )
-Observed speciation (examples: Blackclap, Drosophila melanogaster, Polar bear, ect...)
-Artificial selection (dog breeding, ect...)

in summation, evolution is one of, if not the most sound scientific fact that exists, because of the extensive reasons listed above. checkmate, now lets move on

THEN WHY WOULD GOD CREATE ADAM AS A HUMAN AND NOT IN EVOLUTION?
AND HOW DID WE TURN OUT HUMANS LIKE ADAM?

[JehovahsWitness]

Evolution is a fact...

Indeed that is why it is refered to as "the fact of evolution" and not "the theory of evolution". The name alone supports the title of this thread.

[Goat]

Evolution is a fact...

Indeed that is why it is refered to as "the fact of evolution" and not "the theory of evolution". The name alone supports the title of this thread.

Actually evolution is both a fact and a theory. Evolution happens. This has been observed. The theory of evolution is a model /models of the mechanisms involved, and investigation into the historical way things had developed.

Just like there is gravity.. and the theory of gravity.

Gravity is a fact. If you hold a brick over your head, and let it go, you will probably get a bruise on the top of your head. The formula for what happens to that brick is that it accelerates to the earth at the rate of 32 feet per second per second (until wind resistance is a factor) Those are the facts.

The theory of gravity is WHY that happens.

[Goat]

Here is the evidence for biological evolution:

-Paleontology (fossil record)
-Genetics (comparative sequence analysis, phylogenetic reconstruction)
-Comparative anatomy (common morphology, and living examples)
-geographical distribution (Continental distribution, Island biogeography, Endemism of species, Adaptive radiations)
-Comparative physiology and biochemistry (Universal biochemical organisation and molecular variance patterns)
-Observed natural selection (E.Coli in the lab, lactose intolerance in humans, Nylon eating bacteria ect... )
-Observed speciation (examples: Blackclap, Drosophila melanogaster, Polar bear, ect...)
-Artificial selection (dog breeding, ect...)

in summation, evolution is one of, if not the most sound scientific fact that exists, because of the extensive reasons listed above. checkmate, now lets move on

THEN WHY WOULD GOD CREATE ADAM AS A HUMAN AND NOT IN EVOLUTION?
AND HOW DID WE TURN OUT HUMANS LIKE ADAM?

Can you show adam existed at all?? Adam, even in the ancient hebrew, is a term meaning 'mankind'. or 'ha-adam' means 'the man.

As for the development of the human species.. it developed just like all other species..with descent with modification.

[archaeologist]

Here is the evidence for biological evolution:

-Paleontology (fossil record)
-Genetics (comparative sequence analysis, phylogenetic reconstruction)
-Comparative anatomy (common morphology, and living examples)
-geographical distribution (Continental distribution, Island biogeography, Endemism of species, Adaptive radiations)
-Comparative physiology and biochemistry (Universal biochemical organisation and molecular variance patterns)
-Observed natural selection (E.Coli in the lab, lactose intolerance in humans, Nylon eating bacteria ect... )
-Observed speciation (examples: Blackclap, Drosophila melanogaster, Polar bear, ect...)
-Artificial selection (dog breeding, ect...)

in summation, evolution is one of, if not the most sound scientific fact that exists, because of the extensive reasons listed above. checkmate, now lets move on

in response to this, there is not one shred of evidence produce to support the thread title. the Op just lists a field of study but presents no evidence to support his contention.

in each one of those fields, not one of those items listed excludes God creating the world then having His creation ruined by sin and corruption. the fossil record does not support the theory of evolution for there is no way to tell how those claimed changes came about, nor no way to prove which is the mother and which is the daughter fossil. such determination depends solely upon circular reasoning and ignores the fact that the animal fossilized just could have been lying in a different position and hid the same 'mutation' from modern scientific eyes.

it is all conjecture and assumption that is used to say evolution is a fact for the evolutionist has no way to verify his or her findings. there is NOT ONE ancient document that speaks on any ancient observation concerning evolution (they would have a word for it and we would have deciphered it )

there is no archaeological, historical or geographical foundation for the theory either. many evolutionists point to the dozen or so dating systems and claim they all agree. well i can get 12 things to agree with creation as well, it is a moot point. 12 things agreeing do not make the truth, or the correct date. what the evolutionist does not say is that these systems are their invention, thus they use their clocks to prove their theory--circular reasoning and NO independent studies.

as for breeding, that is not evolution in action but species following genesis 1--reproducing after their kind. go outside their kind and it will not work and the myriad of hybrid experiments have proven this true.

then for the 'observed' changes the evolutionist does not tell you that these experiments are artificial, has outside help and are manipulated because of the firced combinations placed upon a species. not one of the results exclude genetic alterations via creation influenced by the sin and corruption that entered the world at adam's sin.

predictions do not either. they are a non-starter and do not exclude creation, or any other source, as a source for the same results.

one needs to keep in mind that there has NOT been one evolutionary claimed change replicated. all the lab experiments are done artifically, as stated earlier, with human intervention, (not present in the beginning), in controled enviornments, (not present in the beginning), sans original conditions thus any conclusion they claim for evolution is false for they are NOT doing evolutionary work but work to make their theory look true when it is not.

oh and what is also missing from all those experiments--time. the evolutionist does not wait the claimed time frame to see if their experiment is correct. they manipulate it thus they have not replicated a claimed evolutionary alteration.

at best, evolution is a smoke screen and is only accepted because people want an alternative to the Bible and the desire to play god (creating one's own past an dfuture) is too great to resist.

on top of all this the evolutionist cannot verify one conclusion or lab result with the reality of the claimed past. said changes are not occuring today, they say, or are taking a long time, (we will all be dead and it won't matter), thus any proclamation that evolution is true is false and far fetched for the evolutionist has not followed their own rules, nor the claimed reality. they fabricate their results to fit their theory nor do they talk about the failed predictions and experiments thus creating a false sense of success.

in other words, they lie and you do not build the truth with lies.

[JehovahsWitness]

evolution is both a fact and a theory.

Indeed, this is why your thread was accurately entitled "evolution is both a fact and a theory" Well put choice of title for this thread; since most academic references systematically refer to "the fact and the theory of evolution".