Can you answer any of these questions?

[His Reflection]

Try Answering These From Your NIV

By Rex L. Cobb
INSTRUCTIONS:
Using the New International Version Bible, answer the following questions to this NIV quiz.
Do not rely on your memory. As the Bible is the final authority, you must take the answer from the Bible verse (not from footnotes but from the text).
1. Fill in the missing words in Matthew 5:44. "Love your enemies,__________ them that curse you, ______________ to them that hate you, and pray for them that __________ and persecute you."
2. According to Matthew 17:21, what two things are required to cast out this type of demon?
3. According to Matthew 18:11, why did Jesus come to earth?
4. According to Matthew 27:2, what was Pilate's first name?
5. In Matthew 27:35, when the wicked soldiers parted His garments, they were fulfilling the words of the prophet. Copy what the prophet said in Matthew 27:35 from the NIV.
6. In Mark 3:15, Jesus gave the apostles power to cast out demons and to: ____________
7. According to Mark 7:16, what does a man need to be able to hear?
8. According to Luke 7:28, what was John? (teacher, prophet, carpenter, etc.). What is his title or last name?
9. In Luke 9:55, what did the disciples not know?
10. In Luke 9:56, what did the Son of man not come to do? According to this verse, what did He come to do?
11. In Luke 22:14, how many apostles were with Jesus?
12. According to Luke 23:38, in what three languages was the superscription written?
13. In Luke 24:42, what did they give Jesus to eat with His fish?
14. John 3:13 is a very important verse, proving the deity of Christ. According to this verse (as Jesus spoke), where is the Son of man?
15. What happened each year as told in John 5:4?
16. In John 7:50, what time of day did Nicodemus come to Jesus?
17. In Acts 8:37, what is the one requirement for baptism?
18. What did Saul ask Jesus in Acts 9:6?
19. Write the name of the man mentioned in Acts 15:34.
20. Study Acts 24:6-8. What would the Jew have done with Paul? What was the chief captain's name? What did the chief captain command?
21. Copy Romans 16:24 word for word from the NIV.
22. First Timothy 3:16 is perhaps the greatest verse in the New Testament concerning the deity of Christ. In this verse, who was manifested in the flesh?
23. In the second part of First Peter 4:14, how do [they] speak of Christ? And, what do we Christians do?
24. Who are the three Persons of the Trinity in First John 5:7?
25. Revelation 1:11 is another very important verse that proves the deity of Christ. In the first part of this verse Jesus said, "I am the A______________ and O___________, the _________ and the _______:"
Conclusion: Little space is provided for your answers, but it's much more than needed. If you followed the instructions above, you not only failed the test, you receive a big goose egg.
(Ed. These are all missing in the NIV.) So now what do you think of your "accurate, easy to understand, up to date Bible"?
If you would like to improve your score, and in fact score 100%, you can take this test using the Authorized (King James) Bible.

[JehovahsWitness]

My only comment is that the scriptures below do not all appear in many of the earlier manuscripts and this no doubt influenced the NIV translation committee's decision whether or not to include them in the main texts of their bibles.


2. According to Matthew 17:21, what two things are required to cast out this type of demon?
Matthew 17:21 "Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting." >>This scripture is not included in the Codex Sinaiticus, Vatican Ms 1209, Curetonian Syriac and the Sinaitic Syriac Codex.


3. According to Matthew 18:11, why did Jesus come to earth?
Matthew 18:11 "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost." >>This verse is ommited in Codex Sinaiticus, Vatican Ms 1209 and the Sinaitic Syriac Codex. [These verses do not appear in the following translations**: NIV, NLT, ESV, GWT, BBE, ERV, WNT,...]

7. According to Mark 7:16, what does a man need to be able to hear?

Mark 7:16 "If any man have ears to hear, let him hear." >>This is omitted by Codex Sinaiticus and Vatican Ms 1209. [these verses do not appear in the following translations: NIV, NLT, ESV, BBE, ERV, WNT .. ]


15. What happened each year as told in John 5:4?
John 5:4 NKJV: "For an angel went down at a certain time into the pool and stirred up the water; then whoever stepped in first, after the stirring of the water, was made well of whatever disease he had." These verses appear in the New World Translation Reference Bible (albeit in the foototes). They are not in the main text because this verse is not included in P66[Bodmer2 200 C.E.], P75[Bodmer14,15 200 C.E.], Codex Sinaiticus [4th Cent. C.E.], Vatican Ms 1209, [4th Cent. C.E.], Bazae Codices[5th, 6th Cent. C.E.], Jerome's Latin Vulgate[405 C.E.] and the Curetonian Syriac[5th Cent. C.E.]


19. Write the name of the man mentioned in Acts 15:34.
Acts 15:34>>This is omitted by Codex Sinaiticus, Vatican Ms 1209, Codex Alexandrinus and P74.


20. Study Acts 24:6-8. What would the Jew have done with Paul? What was the chief captain's name? What did the chief captain command?
Acts 24:7>>This is omitted by Codex Sinaiticus, Vatican Ms 1209, Codex Alexandrinus, Vulgate and P74.


24. Who are the three Persons of the Trinity in First John 5:7?
1 John 5:7 The end of this verse "... AND THESE THREE ARE ONE" is not in the original bible but was someone trying to add their own words to scripture.

The additional words at the end of this verse are missing in all Gk MSS except four later MSS and in the Oriental versions**. It is quoted by no Church father before Priscillian(380). There is no doubt that it is a gloss on the preceding lines, probably added in Africa or the Iberian peninsula."-John L. McKenzie, S.J., Dictionary of the Bible, The Bruce Publishing Company, 1965, p.445.

http://onlytruegod.org/defense/1john5.7.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/200312022331 ... /comma.htm

** most modern translations have removed the additional comment (referred to as "The Johannine Comma) I John 5:7 - omitted in the NIV
OTHER TRANSLATIONS see ===> http://bible.cc/1_john/5-7.htm

Related question (scroll down)
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... SbiXH7ujaa

**Many other versions and translations such as the RSV, Smith& Goodspeed, RV etc. have these verses in brackets or in the footnotes.

SOURCE (Scroll down):
http://www.quotedstatements.com/bible-files/nwt.htm


25. Revelation 1:11 is another very important verse that proves the deity of
Christ. In the first part of this verse Jesus said, "I am the A______________ and O___________, the _________ and the _______:"

• "Virtually all modern translations do not include in Rev 1:11
  
  "This wording at the beginning of the KJV's version of Rev. 1:11 is not found in virtually any ancient texts, nor is it mentioned, even as a footnote, in any modern translation or in Bruce Metzger's definitive A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, Second Edition, New York: United Bible Societies, 1994" -- http://www.bibletexts.com/versecom/rev01v11.htm
  
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  "There are only three pre-ninth century Greek MSS which attest to this passage [Rev. 1:11], and all three of them omit the phrase "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last." In addition, many later MSS and versions also omit. Hodges & Farstad's "Majority" text omits, and Robinson & Pierpont's "Byzantine/Majority" text omits. Thus whether one bases one's text largely on pre-ninth century MSS, or whether one bases one's text on the Majority of Greek MSS, either way, this phrase should be omitted." --Steven Craig Miller - http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-gr ... chment.htm

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Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset and David Brown Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible Revelation 1:11. I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last; and--The oldest manuscripts, omit all this clause. - http://www.ccel.org/j/jfb/jfb/JFB66.htm#Chapter1

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The Adam Clarke Commentary Revelation 1Verse 11." I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last "

• "This whole clause is wanting in ABC, thirty-one others; some editions; the Syriac, Coptic, Ethiopic, Armenian, Slavonic, Vulgate, Arethas, Andreas, and Primasius. Griesbach has left it out of the text."

[McCulloch]

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[His Reflection]

I really like the fact that you brought up manuscripts Codex Sinaiticus, Vaticanus namely. I just woundering if anyone know what other text are ommited in them. for example John 3:16-21 and john 3:31-36 also the entire book of revelation. If some manuscripts takes out scripture how do we respone to:
Rev 22:18-19

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
KJV

[cnorman18]

Try Answering These From Your NIV

By Rex L. Cobb
INSTRUCTIONS:
Using the New International Version Bible, answer the following questions to this NIV quiz.
Do not rely on your memory. As the Bible is the final authority, you must take the answer from the Bible verse (not from footnotes but from the text).
1. Fill in the missing words in Matthew 5:44. "Love your enemies,__________ them that curse you, ______________ to them that hate you, and pray for them that __________ and persecute you."
2. According to Matthew 17:21, what two things are required to cast out this type of demon?
3. According to Matthew 18:11, why did Jesus come to earth?
4. According to Matthew 27:2, what was Pilate's first name?
5. In Matthew 27:35, when the wicked soldiers parted His garments, they were fulfilling the words of the prophet. Copy what the prophet said in Matthew 27:35 from the NIV.
6. In Mark 3:15, Jesus gave the apostles power to cast out demons and to: ____________
7. According to Mark 7:16, what does a man need to be able to hear?
8. According to Luke 7:28, what was John? (teacher, prophet, carpenter, etc.). What is his title or last name?
9. In Luke 9:55, what did the disciples not know?
10. In Luke 9:56, what did the Son of man not come to do? According to this verse, what did He come to do?
11. In Luke 22:14, how many apostles were with Jesus?
12. According to Luke 23:38, in what three languages was the superscription written?
13. In Luke 24:42, what did they give Jesus to eat with His fish?
14. John 3:13 is a very important verse, proving the deity of Christ. According to this verse (as Jesus spoke), where is the Son of man?
15. What happened each year as told in John 5:4?
16. In John 7:50, what time of day did Nicodemus come to Jesus?
17. In Acts 8:37, what is the one requirement for baptism?
18. What did Saul ask Jesus in Acts 9:6?
19. Write the name of the man mentioned in Acts 15:34.
20. Study Acts 24:6-8. What would the Jew have done with Paul? What was the chief captain's name? What did the chief captain command?
21. Copy Romans 16:24 word for word from the NIV.
22. First Timothy 3:16 is perhaps the greatest verse in the New Testament concerning the deity of Christ. In this verse, who was manifested in the flesh?
23. In the second part of First Peter 4:14, how do [they] speak of Christ? And, what do we Christians do?
24. Who are the three Persons of the Trinity in First John 5:7?
25. Revelation 1:11 is another very important verse that proves the deity of Christ. In the first part of this verse Jesus said, "I am the A______________ and O___________, the _________ and the _______:"
Conclusion: Little space is provided for your answers, but it's much more than needed. If you followed the instructions above, you not only failed the test, you receive a big goose egg.
(Ed. These are all missing in the NIV.) So now what do you think of your "accurate, easy to understand, up to date Bible"?
If you would like to improve your score, and in fact score 100%, you can take this test using the Authorized (King James) Bible.

Ennh, I'm a Jew. NONE of these verses are in my Bible at all.

Personally, I think the language has developed and changed just a bit since Shakespeare's day, and I never thought the KJV was especially holy even when I was a Christian. I prefer the JTS translation myself, and for the New Testament, I'll take the Oxford Annotated. When I was a minister, I used a Parallel Bible with four different translations on every two-page spread more often than any one version. King James is great for public reading and sonorous language, but if you want to understand the book and you're less than 400 years old, I recommend a modern-language Bible. King James was the language of the common folk when it was written, not some Holy English that the Bible is meant to be read in.

[JehovahsWitness]

I really like the fact that you brought up manuscripts Codex Sinaiticus, Vaticanus namely. I just woundering if anyone know what other text are ommited in them. for example John 3:16-21 and john 3:31-36 also the entire book of revelation.

I'm afraid this is not my field of expertese so I can't really help you on comparitive studies of the Vatican Manuscript (B) and the Sinaiticus. I'm pretty certain there are a number of them but I just haven't studied any myself. You'll probably be able to find one on a specialized site if you google.

Here is the Sinaiticus Codex which is now available online - here's the link
http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/
and here is the Catholic Encylopedias page on the B codex
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04086a.htm

Regarding Rev 22:18, 19

An omission is not necessarily a deliberate attempt of corruption. No one copy is presented as a definitive script its through bible CANON that we determine the complete picture of divine revelation not through any one papari, manuscript, codex or translation.

Considering how the bible and particularly the Greek Scriptures came to us, while very valuable both the Vatican Codex and the Sinaiticus are simply two comparable works.

[pasha]

Try Answering These From Your NIV

By Rex L. Cobb
INSTRUCTIONS:
Using the New International Version Bible, answer the following questions to this NIV quiz.
Do not rely on your memory. As the Bible is the final authority, you must take the answer from the Bible verse (not from footnotes but from the text).

the bible is but a GUIDE BOOK, for if one can't adlib the words into ones
one can appreciate then why has anyone even bothered to translate the
record in the first place, So final authority is really a POOR ADAGE

1. Fill in the missing words in Matthew 5:44. "Love your enemies[i],___love_______ [/i]them that curse you, [i]____pray__________ [/i]to them that hate you, and pray for them that berate_________ and persecute you."
2. According to Matthew 17:21, what two things are required to cast out this type of demon? prayer and fasting
3. According to Matthew 18:11, why did Jesus come to earth?
Try to turn Israel back to GOD
4. According to Matthew 27:2, what was Pilate's first name?
Ponti-us
5. In Matthew 27:35, when the soldiers parted His garments, they were fulfilling the words of the prophet. Copy what the prophet said in Matthew 27:35 from the NIV. they would casts lots for one item and divide the rest
6. In Mark 3:15, Jesus gave the apostles power to cast out demons and to: __heal all infirmities__________
7. According to Mark 7:16, what does a man need to be able to hear?
an open heart-willingness and yes of course ears, but not necessarily that order
8. According to Luke 7:28, what was John? (teacher, prophet, carpenter, etc.). What is his title or last name?
seer-a BAPTISER-WASHER of sinners
9. In Luke 9:55, what did the disciples not know?
WHAT BOOK are you using my friend?????

10. In Luke 9:56, what did the Son of man not come to do? According to this verse, what did He come to do?

NOT TO DESTROY THE THEN WORLD-ROME
11. In Luke 22:14, how many apostles were with Jesus?
the dirty dozen

12. According to Luke 23:38, in what three languages was the superscription written?

hebrew, greek and latin, though if it had been written in aramaic
it would have covered all bases- but why did the church translators write
it that way???????

13. In Luke 24:42, what did they give Jesus to eat with His fish?
a piece of honey comb

14. John 3:13 is a very important verse, proving the deity of Christ.
According to this verse (as Jesus spoke), where is the Son of man?
right there on earth as he spoke

15. What happened each year as told in John 5:4?
the pool waters were stirred up-mysteriously

16. In John 7:50, what time of day did Nicodemus come to Jesus?
like a thief in the night. WHY?????

17. In Acts 8:37, what is the one requirement for baptism?
water, so just a spiritual breeze isn't enough see 1Jn5,6

18. What did Saul ask Jesus in Acts 9:6?
Who are you

19. Write the name of the man mentioned in Acts 15:34.
Silas

20. Study Acts 24:6-8. What would the Jew have done with Paul? What was the chief captain's name? What did the chief captain command?
murdered- lysias a century, or were you looking for keeping Paul
under guard with enough liberty to go where he pleased?

21. Copy Romans 16:24 word for word from the NIV.
why?

22. First Timothy 3:16 is perhaps the greatest verse in the New Testament concerning the deity of Christ. In this verse, who was manifested in the flesh?

GOD according to Pauls often contradictory insights.
One time in one epistle Jesus is just GOD's Son and the next time He is
written as being GOD come among men.
See MATT, 3,17 where was GOD speaking from???????????

23. In the second part of First Peter 4:14, how do [they] speak of Christ? And, what do we Christians do?
CHRIST is not a name but a TITLE-REFERENCE- what said the angel
Gabriel to Mary that her baby boy would be called ?????? That is a name.

24. Who are the three Persons of the Trinity in First John 5:7?
IN THE ORIGINAL TRANSCRIPTED BIBLE THIS VERSE DOESN'T EXIST
IT WAS ADDED IN TO HELP SUPPORT THE IDIOM of mans idol-trinity

25. Revelation 1:11 is another very important verse that proves the deity of Christ. In the first part of this verse Jesus said, "I am the A______________ and O___________, the _________ and the _______:"

CORRECTION it's verse 8 the beginning and the end- the A and the O
Conclusion: Little space is provided for your answers, but it's much more than needed. If you followed the instructions above, you not only failed the test, you receive a big goose egg.
(Ed. These are all missing in the NIV.) So now what do you think of your "accurate, easy to understand, up to date Bible"?
If you would like to improve your score, and in fact score 100%, you can take this test using the Authorized (King James) Bible.

see my afore mentioned summation of the BIBLE and it's many translations
and those verses aren't really missing, they all have footnotes added
to show what was missing in the original texts, so why bother with the KJ, it
had too many additions penciled in


thanks for the game though, pax

[His Reflection]

FABLE: "The modern translations are more accurate because they have been translated from older and better manuscripts."

FACT: It is truly amazing how so many Christians have bought into this lie without ever checking to see WHAT these manuscripts are, WHERE they came from, and WHO wrote them...
The modern translations are based on the work of two nineteenth century Greek scholars from England--B. F. Westcott and F. J. A. Hort. Westcott and Hort, who were deeply involved in the occult [and openly expressed disbelief in fundamental Christian doctrines and a dislike for those who do believe them; see Heresies of Westcott and Hort by D.A. Waite, a book with 125 direct quotations from 3 of Westcott's books and 2 of Hort's, showing they were not even saved, let alone "strong, noble conservatives."], hated the Textus Receptus Greek text, from which the King James Bible was translated, so they conjured up THEIR OWN Greek text. This Westcott and Hort Greek text was based primarily on two very corrupt fourth century Roman Catholic manuscripts: Codex Vaticanus and Sinaiticus. These are usually the "older" and "better" manuscripts that we keep hearing so much about...
The Vaticanus...responsible for over thirty-six thousand changes that appear today in the new versions...contains the books of the Apocrypha [mixed in as if it was scripture]... it omits the pastoral epistles (I Timothy through Titus) and the Book of Revelation, and it cuts off the Book of Hebrews at Hebrews 9:14 (a very convenient stopping point for the Catholic Church, since God forbids their priesthood in Hebrews 10!). The attacks on the word of God found in these manuscripts originated in Alexandria, Egypt with the deceitful work of such pagan Greek "scholars" as Origen and Clement of Alexandria. Then in 313 A.D. the Roman emperor Constantine ordered fifty copies of "the Bible" from Eusebius, the Bishop of Caesarea. Eusebius, being a devout student of Origen's work, chose to send him manuscripts filled with Alexandrian corruption, rather than sending him the true word of God in the Syrian text from Antioch, Syria. So the corrupt Alexandrian text (also called the "Egyptian" or "Hesychian" type text) found its way into the Vatican manuscript, then eventually into the Westcott and Hort Greek Text, and finally into the new "Bible" versions in your local "Christian" bookstore. Therefore, when you hear or read of someone "correcting" the King James Bible with "older" or "more authoritative" manuscripts, you are simply hearing someone trying to use a Roman Catholic text to overthrow the God-honored text of the Protestant Reformation and the great revivals. God has never honored this corrupt text and He never will. [see Did The Catholic Church Give Us The Bible? - The True History Of God's Words by David Daniels & Jack Chick]

[His Reflection]

let not stict our heads in the sand now people.

[Jester]

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