There was no Big Bang. Don't you think the most logical, intelligent question to ask about the Big Bang would be, 'What was the cause of the bang? The bang was an effect. What created it?
The observed expansion of the universe is not the after effect of an almighty bang. It is the growth, the evolutionary growth.
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Re: No Big Bang
Post #2I think in this forum it is expected that you provide a question to debate...not make blanket unsupported statements.Harrison wrote:There was no Big Bang. Don't you think the most logical, intelligent question to ask about the Big Bang would be, 'What was the cause of the bang? The bang was an effect. What created it?
The observed expansion of the universe is not the after effect of an almighty bang. It is the growth, the evolutionary growth.
"Whatever you are totally ignorant of, assert to be the explanation of everything else"
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
Post #4
Shouldn't that be "Who am I"? That is the only worthwhile question to ask. The answer is found by eliminating "who (or what) I am not"Harrison wrote:ok. 'What are you?'
"Whatever you are totally ignorant of, assert to be the explanation of everything else"
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
Post #6
who said anything about 'thinking'. I'm talking self enquiry. That is not thought, it is experience.Harrison wrote:I'm not interested in who you think you are. That's the problem. The solution is the truth of what you are.
"Whatever you are totally ignorant of, assert to be the explanation of everything else"
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
Post #7
I'm sorry Bernee, I didn't realise that you had responded. For some reason I am not always being notified when responses come through.bernee51 wrote:who said anything about 'thinking'. I'm talking self enquiry. That is not thought, it is experience.Harrison wrote:I'm not interested in who you think you are. That's the problem. The solution is the truth of what you are.
Yes I mentioned thinking, you did not. That came from a particular view I have about the fundamental difference between who we are and what we are. For me, we cannot eliminate what we are, because what we are is the essence of our being and common to all. We can however eliminate who we are, or at least who we think we are and discover what we are.
Who we are is really in the eye of the beholder, and will vary from one person to the next, and it doesn't really matter that much who everyone thinks we are. The problem in my view is when we think we are something (special or not special), and then we try and live up to that self image. This self image we have is the result of thinking about who we are, or are trying to become.
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The self is an illusion.harrison: Yes I mentioned thinking, you did not. That came from a particular view I have about the fundamental difference between who we are and what we are. For me, we cannot eliminate what we are, because what we are is the essence of our being and common to all. We can however eliminate who we are, or at least who we think we are and discover what we are.
Who we are is really in the eye of the beholder, and will vary from one person to the next, and it doesn't really matter that much who everyone thinks we are. The problem in my view is when we think we are something (special or not special), and then we try and live up to that self image. This self image we have is the result of thinking about who we are, or are trying to become.
Wouldn’t you agree Burnee51?
A special transmission outside the scriptures;
Depending not on words and letters;
Pointing directly to the human mind;
Seeing into one''s nature, one becomes a Buddha.
Depending not on words and letters;
Pointing directly to the human mind;
Seeing into one''s nature, one becomes a Buddha.
Post #9
The self or the Self?BeHereNow wrote:
The self is an illusion.
Wouldn’t you agree Burnee51?
Tat tvam asi.
Harrison wrote: we cannot eliminate what we are, because what we are is the essence of our being and common to all. We can however eliminate who we are, or at least who we think we are and discover what we are.
So far so good.
Then Harrison wrote: Who we are is really in the eye of the beholder,...
I would suggest that the exact opposite is true. What is in the 'eye of the beholder' is exactly what we are no.
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"Whatever you are totally ignorant of, assert to be the explanation of everything else"
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
William James quoting Dr. Hodgson
"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
Nisargadatta Maharaj
Re: No Big Bang
Post #10Thank you.Harrison wrote:There was no Big Bang.
There was no Big Bang. That has never been proven, that very criticle point is always assumed or never talked about.Harrison wrote: Don't you think the most logical, intelligent question to ask about the Big Bang would be, 'What was the cause of the bang? The bang was an effect. What created it?
