Can Fox News be trusted?

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Asked what most viewers and observers of Fox News would be surprised to learn about the controversial cable channel, a former insider from the world of Rupert Murdoch was quick with a response: I dont think people would believe its as concocted as it is; that stuff is just made up.

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Can any news media organization in this world be trusted???


I don't trust any of them.



All Praise The Ancient Of Days

[TheParticlePerson]

It doesn't really matter. Fox news is basically comedic entertainment, not a source for news.

Seriously, is this satire? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/1 ... 39478.html

[nursebenjamin]

Fox news can be trusted to give opinion, but not the news. According to Fox News[1] only a handful of their shows are news programs, and the rest are opinion.

But even on the news programs, you'll find much opinion. It is common for the "news anchors" on Fox to "source" the opinions of colleagues that were just on the opinion programming.[2] Anytime you hear a news anchor on Fox say, "Some people say..." you know that they are sourcing a Fox News talking head.

Anyone who gets their news from Fox clearly doesn't want to know what is really occurring in the world.

[Slopeshoulder]

Fox Noise isn't news, it is opinion.

But it's opinions are full of purposeful lies and caveman reasoning.

And many people (the dumb, the uneducated, the weak, the lazy, fundamentalists, hawks, the greedy, the old, the young) trust them. They are a menace. Hannity is a fascist, O'Reilly is an under-endowed ass, and Glenn Beck is Lucifer incarnate.

[Goat]

Fox Noise isn't news, it is opinion.

But it's opinions are full of purposeful lies and caveman reasoning.

And many people (the dumb, the uneducated, the weak, the lazy, fundamentalists, hawks, the greedy, the old, the young) trust them. They are a menace. Hannity is a fascist, O'Reilly is an under-endowed ass, and Glenn Beck is Lucifer incarnate.

I find it somewhat amusing that they show a clip supposedly of people protesting in Wisconsin, and there is a palm tree in the back ground.

Forgive me if i am wrong, but they don't HAVE Palm trees in Wisconsin

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[Choir Loft]

Fox Noise isn't news, it is opinion.

But it's opinions are full of purposeful lies and caveman reasoning.

And many people (the dumb, the uneducated, the weak, the lazy, fundamentalists, hawks, the greedy, the old, the young) trust them. They are a menace. Hannity is a fascist, O'Reilly is an under-endowed ass, and Glenn Beck is Lucifer incarnate.

Of course Fox News is opinion. Aren't they all? Watch ANY news program from any provider for thirty minutes and what do you get? About ten minutes of commercials and about fifteen minutes of editorializing. The last five minutes is news - or what passes for the information we are meant to receive.

Personally I hate the editorializing. I think we all do. Aren't we capable of making our own assumptions and decisions without some talking head trying to tell us what to believe and why?

I agree that Hannity is a fascist, but aren't they all - from every network. Their purpose is to support government by the few, the oligarchs. It's the party line, or the government line - whatever is approved for the day. I like O'Reilly. He's funny. Glenn Beck is more of a circus ring leader than a devil. That's why they call is Show BUSINESS, folks.

Recently, however, I was brought up to speed by a column on CNN of all places.

Just when I thought I knew how many wars we were involved in, along comes congressman Bilirakis' revelations about the Mexican thing.
That brings the total now to 7 1/2 or thereabouts.

The half war is that nebulous vacuous thing that dubya Bush called the War on Terror.
"We aren't fighting a religion," he said, "we're fighting evil."

There is no such thing as evil. That which we know and experience as evil has substance, existence and sometimes purpose.
Evil has names, faces, addresses and telephone numbers. (Sometimes it's a selection on a greasy restaurant's menu.)
Evil is something you can point at and accuse. Even religion gives it a name and a home address.

In the world of global politics and modern warfare, evil seems to have escaped the necessity of little more than a transparent label.
If there were substance to it, then we would know the limits of war. Apparently dubya's version of evil has none.
When OBL was killed by Navy seals, that should have provided closure for our foreign adventure in warmongering.
Instead we were treated to "Arab Spring" and now what......Mexican Winter?

These are now the days of what one pundit calls "shadow war". Not covert because everyone knows about them, but not front page news either. In fact news that is not covered by the media at all.

I'd read scathing attacks upon the media by such persons as Gore Vidal who claim that the journalists of today are part of some diabolical scheme to cover the eyes and ears of Americans so that our oligarchs may do as they please. Mr. Vidal may be accurate in part, but one thing I did not guess was the effect military and governmental repressive policies may have upon those journalists who still possess a modicum of integrity. I include here a portion of a column which appeared on CNN's web site on Friday. Since CNN is a respected news provider, I assume that what is written here has some substance of truth behind it. If so, then what does it tell us about the intent of those in leadership positions in America?
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"In its operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, the U.S. military has detained journalists without charge for long periods, and failed to adequately investigate our documentation of the killings of 16 journalists by U.S. forces' fire."

"Anti-state charges and "terrorist" labels have become commonplace and are used to unduly intimidate, detain and imprison journalists. Media blackouts and limited access to war and conflict zones have become routine, along with the uninvestigated killings of journalists. To put it starkly, 81 journalists were in jail around the world at the end of 2000. By the end of 2001, that number shot up to 118. Today there are 145, most held on state security charges."

"Ten years on, it's clear that the anti-terror rhetoric and policies developed by the United States after 9/11 have provided effective and enduring cover for the erosion of civil liberties around the world -- including press freedom."

- Joel Simon CNN 09/09/11
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Some believe, as I do, that our own government was behind the attacks of 911. Facts and arguments about minute details aside for the moment, what the Bible said about evil men is still true.

For each tree is known by its own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

Luke 6:44


What then are the fruits of 911? Victory and peace or endless war and the massive erosion of our liberties.

We speak often these days of matters of Constitutional law. Many of us know the document well that did not know it before.

Why?

Do we really fight some nameless evil or have evil men placed their heels upon our necks?

[Adurumus]

I'm an aspiring game programmer, and one who watches the web show Extra Credits. It's quite entertaining as well as educational, teaching how games can have meaning beyond children's toys. All of that goes out the window, in Fox New's eyes.

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Games are only playthings for little Timmy- and he shouldn't care about the terrible liberal propaganda that is SimSocieties. This, on top of their "coverage" of Six Days in Fallujah, makes them enemies of anyone who believes games are art. The only thing I can do is prove them wrong when I get the chance, but until then I've started a facebook page about the "virtual polar bears" comment in the video.

[Usward]

...that stuff is just made up.

Holy Kiss: Grace unto you, and peace (not confusion),
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus --> Christ.

Fox is about as unreliable and unreal as TBN (trinity) $tuff.
Glenn Beck and Bill O'Really are as IMPish as Jack Van IMPe.
What they should all read is Romans 2, which notes
judging others is called "inexcusable" behaviour, and
promoting contention has 4 notable consequences:
1) indignation, 2) wrath, 3) tribulation, 4) anguish.

Being right to make others wrong is as childish as it gets,
and children differ nothing from servants = know nots,
who know not what their master (law) doeth.

Law (legalism: good + evil) obviously had an expiration date,
which expired about 2000 yrs ago in Lk 16:16; Jn 1:17; Gal 4.

Of BC/AD, it's AD--> only goes one way, unto the end of such f-law.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ [be/is] with you all. Amen.

[Choir Loft]

...that stuff is just made up.

Holy Kiss: Grace unto you, and peace (not confusion),
from God our Father and the Lord Jesus --> Christ.

Fox is about as unreliable and unreal as TBN (trinity) $tuff.
Glenn Beck and Bill O'Really are as IMPish as Jack Van IMPe.
What they should all read is Romans 2, which notes
judging others is called "inexcusable" behaviour, and
promoting contention has 4 notable consequences:
1) indignation, 2) wrath, 3) tribulation, 4) anguish.

Being right to make others wrong is as childish as it gets,
and children differ nothing from servants = know nots,
who know not what their master (law) doeth.

Law (legalism: good + evil) obviously had an expiration date,
which expired about 2000 yrs ago in Lk 16:16; Jn 1:17; Gal 4.

Of BC/AD, it's AD--> only goes one way, unto the end of such f-law.

The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ [be/is] with you all. Amen.

Judging others is an inextricable part of being an adult AND a good citizen.
Legalism, especially Biblical legalism isn't necessarily a bad thing.

First of all, the law DID NOT expire two thousand years ago. It didn't mysteriously disappear and it didn't become null and void.


Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfill.
Mat 5:17

That's Jesus talking there. If HE said that the law isn't put aside, then it isn't. What did He mean then? What Jesus meant was that an appropriate application of the law was in order. To learn what 'appropriate' means, one needs to really study scripture in detail with an open mind to the heart of God. Long story short, the appropriate application of the law AND JUDGING is to do so in light of what's right and what's wrong.

And that applies when we judge people as well as those rules that dictate our social behavior. The big problem with all this judging business is that a lot of people are judging with the wrong motives. Most judge others because they don't belong to their particular group, whatever that group is. I'm not talking here solely about Baptists or Catholics either. I'm talking about gays as well as straight, Democrats as well as Republicans, heathen as well as the saints they hate.

The top of this thread asked the question as to whether Fox News can be trusted. I think they can be trusted, at least as far as I can trust any media group that has its own bias and agenda. I read what Glenn Beck has to say as well as Rachael Madow and Bill Mahr. Not all of their words are lies. It is the duty of all citizens to filter the crapola from the gold. Its there, you've just got to spend time analyzing what they're saying......and most Americans unfortunately are way too lazy to do that.

If there is a judgment to be laid down here its upon the citizenry of these United States. We elect our leaders and send them off to the state capital or DC or wherever and let them do their thing. Years later we discover that they are NOT serving in the best interests of the voters and we are shocked. SHOCKED!

Right wing Christians adamantly hold to the obsolete notion of "my country right or wrong". Many will not even entertain the notion that THEY ought to do more about our situation than just pray. They are guilty of laziness and like the servant in the proverb who refused to use the talent his master gave him, will BE JUDGED by that master and have all that they owned taken from them.

Left wing heathens, or liberals or progressives or gays or whatever have erected their own sort of self-righteous moral high ground. To judge them, they say, is irreligious and unloving. All the while they are digging themselves into a hole of hypocrisy just as deep and wide as that which the good folks in the First Christian Church of Main Street have dug for themselves.

We are all like children in the play yard throwing sand at one another and calling each other names. Meanwhile the oligarchs who make the real decisions are raiding the house we live in; stealing our hard earned wages, derailing our hopes for the future, and denying us the liberty we once had to decide our own fate in this world.

The issue isn't Fox News vs. NBC, Democrats vs. Republicans, Christians vs. Heathen or Ford vs. GM. The real issue is that which has taken captive the land in which we live. Make no mistake, we have indeed been robbed. Those that deny it are either fools or liars or have their head stuck so far up their ..... fantasy life .... that they don't know what's going on.

Finally I want to address the quoted issue above regarding 'contention'. Those that use the Bible to justify inaction are as guilty of the sin of laziness as those who they 'judge'. Contention, dear poster, is a normal part of life. Contentedness is not normal to the human condition.

Always remember that only the dead fish swim with the stream.