Origin of non-christian religions

[wx47]

Hi everyone,

I would like to ask question about origin of non-christian religions (this is my first post , I'm christian )
OK - so I've been thinking and idea came:
As a christian, I believe in God, his creation of universe . There are, however, other religions such as buddhism, taoism, muslim, etc.
They don't believe in God *AND* because God is one who created universe (and they don't believe in him), their gods doesn't exist. Because there is good (God) and then evil (absence of God) - and they don't believe in him, are they product of evil (I mean those religions) ?
Are they work of evil to draw attention not to God, but to something other ?
OK, and last question - (if answer to last question is yes) - are those people evil / bad becouse there are spreading their non-christian religion ? (maybe there don't mean to do bad thing - they believe that they are doing good, but unknowingly doing bad)

(DISCLAIMER: I do not want to harass or find excuse to disdain non-christian people, I just want to know answer to stated questions)

Many thanks

[happy forever]

According to the rules of this forum, I support my reply with evidence:
"And who is more unjust than he who fabricates against Allah a lie, or cries lies to the Truth as soon as it comes to him? Is there not in Hell a lodging for the disbelievers?" [29:68]

That is not evidence...it is a quote from a work of fiction.

Islam is a syncretism of christianity and judaism, it emerged as a reaction to the spread of christianity. If christianity had not been so successful in the early part of the first millennia CE, islam would not exist.

Allah (the arabic name for god), is like the god of the Jews and the god of christianity, a myth.

The concept of god, and concomitant religions, has clearly evolved along with human community.

Hello, old man.

After these long years, you think yourself know everything?

Are you sure 100% of your claims?
What if there were many prophets and messengers in the past and the book of Allah which was sent to His messenger Muhammad is with us The true words of Allah?

I give a slight evidence. When were you 70 years ago?
Where will you be after less than 70 years?
Who are you now? What is your body? What is your soul? Who gives you life? Who takes this life?

What do you know about yourself to think that you can know what happened in the past or will happen in the future?

You know nothing more than what you know so don't judge what you don't know.

Quran is the words of Allah, it tells us what happened in the past and the true stories of the messengers and prophets and what happened to them by the hands of their followers and Who is Jesus and where he is now and that his is not the son god but a slave, a miracle born without a father from his virgin mother Mariam a miracle from Allah and a messenger and a guide.

Quran gives us precious information in all fields of life. It gives us answers to unanswerable questions and the orgin of the universe and scientific, astronomic, medical, physiological, psychological, spritual knowledge.
It tells us the purpose of your creation and what is after death.
It sets the rules, define the rights and duties of the individual and the community.

It left nothing but gives us its key.

Quran is like air and water and sun, without it our life is dark, evil, injustice as it was before Muhammad my love.

[otseng]

Suggesting Jews believe their god is a devil is not really civil.

I have just understand but I have one question to you and him and all, if god must be fighted according to his religion, logically I say logically (and this is a supported logical evidence), whether this god is mad or like fighting and who likes fighting for no reason is evil or obey the devil.
Don't take my reply as offensive cuz it's not. It is logic and if you find it offensive, then accuse logic not me.

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[happy forever]

Suggesting Jews believe their god is a devil is not really civil.

I have just understand but I have one question to you and him and all, if god must be fighted according to his religion, logically I say logically (and this is a supported logical evidence), whether this god is mad or like fighting and who likes fighting for no reason is evil or obey the devil.
Don't take my reply as offensive cuz it's not. It is logic and if you find it offensive, then accuse logic not me.

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Mr Otseng,

I respect you as I do with all people here. No one is better than the other.
If you are a moderator, this doesn't mean you are better. You have a role to do not to exploit your positions to turn your opinions into decisions must be followed.

If you claim that the rule of this respectful site says "I have to kneel to any admin blindly or any injust backward rule coming from ancient times, I would never do it". You will lose ma and all members here and this is what actually done.

I find you from America where the statute of Freedom! Is this freedom is confined to this statue?

Take care, I am the daughter of the Egyptian revolution and never accept blind following to superior aggressive injust rules or decisions.

You will never be able to mute my voice as long as I debate logically and respectfully.

Thanks all of you

[bernee51]

According to the rules of this forum, I support my reply with evidence:
"And who is more unjust than he who fabricates against Allah a lie, or cries lies to the Truth as soon as it comes to him? Is there not in Hell a lodging for the disbelievers?" [29:68]

That is not evidence...it is a quote from a work of fiction.

Islam is a syncretism of christianity and judaism, it emerged as a reaction to the spread of christianity. If christianity had not been so successful in the early part of the first millennia CE, islam would not exist.

Allah (the arabic name for god), is like the god of the Jews and the god of christianity, a myth.

The concept of god, and concomitant religions, has clearly evolved along with human community.

Hello, old man.

As-Salmu alayki, Grasshopper

After these long years, you think yourself know everything?

Everything? No. More than I did yesterday, certainly

Are you sure 100% of your claims?

Have I claimed that?

What if there were many prophets and messengers in the past and the book of Allah which was sent to His messenger Muhammad is with us The true words of Allah?

All religion is an attempt to codify a personal spiritual experience. 'Prophets' and messangers are relating their experience of spirit.

I give a slight evidence. When were you 70 years ago?
Where will you be after less than 70 years?
Who are you now?

'I' am.

What is your body?

A vessel for consiousness.

What is your soul?

My soul entails all thought, intellect, emotions, memories, hopes, dreams, aspirations, suffering, loves, joys, hates, sorrows, regrets, creativity, spite, knowledge, learning, understanding, empathy, sympathy, pity, greed, lust, desire, initiative, and instinct of each and every human. More so, of every organism that has mental faculty.

Who gives you life? Who takes this life?

My life (as it manifests) is not given or taken by anyone or anything other than this vessel

What do you know about yourself to think that you can know what happened in the past or will happen in the future?

I know much about my 'self'. My concern is not with the past or future, but with the eternal now.

You know nothing more than what you know so don't judge what you don't know.

And you know nothing of what i know.

Quran is the words of Allah, it tells us what happened in the past and the true stories of the messengers and prophets and what happened to them by the hands of their followers and Who is Jesus and where he is now and that his is not the son god but a slave, a miracle born without a father from his virgin mother Mariam a miracle from Allah and a messenger and a guide.

The Quran is a text attempting to communicate, amongst other things, a personal experience of spirit.

Quran gives us precious information in all fields of life. It gives us answers to unanswerable questions...

Answers to unanswerable questions....

... and the orgin of the universe and scientific, astronomic, medical, physiological, psychological, spritual knowledge.
It tells us the purpose of your creation and what is after death.
It sets the rules, define the rights and duties of the individual and the community.

It left nothing but gives us its key.

Quran is like air and water and sun, without it our life is dark, evil, injustice as it was before Muhammad my love.

I do not doubt your love for the Beloved. I do not doubt your belief, i do not doubt that your belief brings meaning, purpose and legiticmacy to your existence.



This is love: to fly toward a secret sky,

to cause a hundred veils to fall each moment.

First, to let go of live.

In the end, to take a step without feet;

to regard this world as invisible,

and to disregard what appears to be the self.



Heart, I said, what a gift it has been

to enter this circle of lovers,

to see beyond seeing itself,

to reach and feel within the breast.

[happy forever]

This is love: to fly toward a secret sky,

to cause a hundred veils to fall each moment.

First, to let go of live.

In the end, to take a step without feet;

to regard this world as invisible,

and to disregard what appears to be the self.



Heart, I said, what a gift it has been

to enter this circle of lovers,

to see beyond seeing itself,

to reach and feel within the breast.

How a vessel has such a deep feeling, good man?

[bernee51]

This is love: to fly toward a secret sky,

to cause a hundred veils to fall each moment.

First, to let go of live.

In the end, to take a step without feet;

to regard this world as invisible,

and to disregard what appears to be the self.



Heart, I said, what a gift it has been

to enter this circle of lovers,

to see beyond seeing itself,

to reach and feel within the breast.

How a vessel has such a deep feeling, good man?

There must be an evolutionary advantage...just has there has been in inventing god.

[happy forever]

This is love: to fly toward a secret sky,

to cause a hundred veils to fall each moment.

First, to let go of live.

In the end, to take a step without feet;

to regard this world as invisible,

and to disregard what appears to be the self.



Heart, I said, what a gift it has been

to enter this circle of lovers,

to see beyond seeing itself,

to reach and feel within the breast.

How a vessel has such a deep feeling, good man?

There must be an evolutionary advantage...just has there has been in inventing god.

Then why not to develop iron and sand and grant them feeling and produce machines theat can feel.

We are made from dust and to dust we return.

How in this small period (counted years), a dust can be alive?

[Goat]

Then why not to develop iron and sand and grant them feeling and produce machines theat can feel.

We are made from dust and to dust we return.

How in this small period (counted years), a dust can be alive?

Define 'alive'. What is 'alive' but a very special set of chemical reactions? There are plants that are thousands of years old. Single celled animals reproduce by fission. Are the two 'offspring' the same, or did the original one 'die'?

[happy forever]

Then why not to develop iron and sand and grant them feeling and produce machines that can feel.

We are made from dust and to dust we return.

How in this small period (counted years), a dust can be alive?

Define 'alive'. What is 'alive' but a very special set of chemical reactions? There are plants that are thousands of years old. Single celled animals reproduce by fission. Are the two 'offspring' the same, or did the original one 'die'?

Why do you neglect the other questions?

What chemical reaction? Who cause these chemical reactions?

Who created you?

[Goat]

Then why not to develop iron and sand and grant them feeling and produce machines that can feel.

We are made from dust and to dust we return.

How in this small period (counted years), a dust can be alive?

Define 'alive'. What is 'alive' but a very special set of chemical reactions? There are plants that are thousands of years old. Single celled animals reproduce by fission. Are the two 'offspring' the same, or did the original one 'die'?

Why do you neglect the other questions?

What chemical reaction? Who cause these chemical reactions?

Who created you?

Can you show that there was a WHO, without resorting to religious promotional materials?

As for 'who created me'.. my parents had sex.. and that act created that which became me.