Origin of non-christian religions

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Origin of non-christian religions

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Hi everyone,

I would like to ask question about origin of non-christian religions (this is my first post :-), I'm christian )
OK - so I've been thinking and idea came:
As a christian, I believe in God, his creation of universe . There are, however, other religions such as buddhism, taoism, muslim, etc.
They don't believe in God *AND* because God is one who created universe (and they don't believe in him), their gods doesn't exist. Because there is good (God) and then evil (absence of God) - and they don't believe in him, are they product of evil (I mean those religions) ?
Are they work of evil to draw attention not to God, but to something other ?
OK, and last question - (if answer to last question is yes) - are those people evil / bad becouse there are spreading their non-christian religion ? (maybe there don't mean to do bad thing - they believe that they are doing good, but unknowingly doing bad)

(DISCLAIMER: I do not want to harass or find excuse to disdain non-christian people, I just want to know answer to stated questions)

Many thanks

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happy forever wrote: Who makes your heart beats...
Have you ever seen an ECG? It records the electronic stimuli that keep the heart beating.
happy forever wrote: ...and your mind thinks and your skin feel?
Actually skin feeling (sentition) came before mind thinking (qualia)
happy forever wrote: Who grants you different delicious fruits to eat and a wife to marry?
A combination of the physiosphere, biosphere and noosphere.
happy forever wrote: Who grants you tongue to taste and talk and very concerted teeth without mold?
A combination of the physiosphere, biosphere and noosphere.
"Whatever you are totally ignorant of, assert to be the explanation of everything else"

William James quoting Dr. Hodgson

"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."

Nisargadatta Maharaj

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bernee51 wrote:
happy forever wrote: Who makes your heart beats...
Have you ever seen an ECG? It records the electronic stimuli that keep the heart beating.
happy forever wrote: ...and your mind thinks and your skin feel?
Actually skin feeling (sentition) came before mind thinking (qualia)
happy forever wrote: Who grants you different delicious fruits to eat and a wife to marry?
A combination of the physiosphere, biosphere and noosphere.
happy forever wrote: Who grants you tongue to taste and talk and very concerted teeth without mold?
A combination of the physiosphere, biosphere and noosphere.
Savant,

Be savant and provide scientific answer.
Sorry to say "this is crap".

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bernee51 wrote:
happy forever wrote: Who makes your heart beats...
Have you ever seen an ECG? It records the electronic stimuli that keep the heart beating.
happy forever wrote: ...and your mind thinks and your skin feel?
Actually skin feeling (sentition) came before mind thinking (qualia)
happy forever wrote: Who grants you different delicious fruits to eat and a wife to marry?
A combination of the physiosphere, biosphere and noosphere.
happy forever wrote: Who grants you tongue to taste and talk and very concerted teeth without mold?
A combination of the physiosphere, biosphere and noosphere.
There is no scientific answer here, they are all your invented words.

Is it science?!!!

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happy forever wrote:
bernee51 wrote:
happy forever wrote: Who makes your heart beats...
Have you ever seen an ECG? It records the electronic stimuli that keep the heart beating.
happy forever wrote: ...and your mind thinks and your skin feel?
Actually skin feeling (sentition) came before mind thinking (qualia)
happy forever wrote: Who grants you different delicious fruits to eat and a wife to marry?
A combination of the physiosphere, biosphere and noosphere.
happy forever wrote: Who grants you tongue to taste and talk and very concerted teeth without mold?
A combination of the physiosphere, biosphere and noosphere.
There is no scientific answer here, they are all your invented words.

Is it science?!!!
Not very widely read are you? Look outside religious texts.

The terms I used are indeed scientific...used by the renown paleontologist Teilhard de Chardin from early to mid 20th century as well as more recent scientists such as Ken Wilber and Nicholas Humphrey.
"Whatever you are totally ignorant of, assert to be the explanation of everything else"

William James quoting Dr. Hodgson

"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."

Nisargadatta Maharaj

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bernee51 wrote:
happy forever wrote:
bernee51 wrote:
happy forever wrote: Who makes your heart beats...
Have you ever seen an ECG? It records the electronic stimuli that keep the heart beating.
happy forever wrote: ...and your mind thinks and your skin feel?
Actually skin feeling (sentition) came before mind thinking (qualia)
happy forever wrote: Who grants you different delicious fruits to eat and a wife to marry?
A combination of the physiosphere, biosphere and noosphere.
happy forever wrote: Who grants you tongue to taste and talk and very concerted teeth without mold?
A combination of the physiosphere, biosphere and noosphere.
There is no scientific answer here, they are all your invented words.

Is it science?!!!
Not very widely read are you? Look outside religious texts.

The terms I used are indeed scientific...used by the renown paleontologist Teilhard de Chardin from early to mid 20th century as well as more recent scientists such as Ken Wilber and Nicholas Humphrey.
Science is science, brother. No opinions accepted in science.

Answer my questions scientifically and logically altogether.

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happy forever wrote:
bernee51 wrote:
happy forever wrote:
bernee51 wrote:
happy forever wrote: Who makes your heart beats...
Have you ever seen an ECG? It records the electronic stimuli that keep the heart beating.
happy forever wrote: ...and your mind thinks and your skin feel?
Actually skin feeling (sentition) came before mind thinking (qualia)
happy forever wrote: Who grants you different delicious fruits to eat and a wife to marry?
A combination of the physiosphere, biosphere and noosphere.
happy forever wrote: Who grants you tongue to taste and talk and very concerted teeth without mold?
A combination of the physiosphere, biosphere and noosphere.
There is no scientific answer here, they are all your invented words.

Is it science?!!!
Not very widely read are you? Look outside religious texts.

The terms I used are indeed scientific...used by the renown paleontologist Teilhard de Chardin from early to mid 20th century as well as more recent scientists such as Ken Wilber and Nicholas Humphrey.
Science is science, brother. No opinions accepted in science.

Answer my questions scientifically and logically altogether.
I am not offering opinion, I am offering the scientific views of scientists. If you choose not to follow up on the source of this science, you only have yourself to blame for ignorance of the science.

OTOH...The world is nothing more than an embodiment of the objects perceived by the five sense-organs. Since, through these five sense-organs, a single mind perceives the world, the world is nothing but the mind. Apart from the mind can there be a world?

What are you offering? Stories from a 7th century illiterate?
"Whatever you are totally ignorant of, assert to be the explanation of everything else"

William James quoting Dr. Hodgson

"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."

Nisargadatta Maharaj

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happy forever wrote:
bernee51 wrote:
happy forever wrote: Who makes your heart beats...
Have you ever seen an ECG? It records the electronic stimuli that keep the heart beating.
happy forever wrote: ...and your mind thinks and your skin feel?
Actually skin feeling (sentition) came before mind thinking (qualia)
happy forever wrote: Who grants you different delicious fruits to eat and a wife to marry?
A combination of the physiosphere, biosphere and noosphere.
happy forever wrote: Who grants you tongue to taste and talk and very concerted teeth without mold?
A combination of the physio-sphere, biosphere and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noosphere.
There is no scientific answer here, they are all your invented words.

Is it science?!!!
No, they are not his invented words.

[ur]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_evolution] Physio-sphere is the concept of the universal evolution form sub atomic particles to human being (and beyond). [/url]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere] Biosphere is the sum total of all the different ecological spheres on the planet. It's a fancy way of saying 'The planet earths biological areas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noosphere] Noosphere is the concept of the 'sphere of human thought' , also by the folks that coined the term physio-sphere.

The first and last terms are more philosophy than science IMO, but the second term is most certainly science.
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

Steven Novella

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bernee51 wrote:
happy forever wrote:
bernee51 wrote:
happy forever wrote:
bernee51 wrote:
happy forever wrote: Who makes your heart beats...
Have you ever seen an ECG? It records the electronic stimuli that keep the heart beating.
happy forever wrote: ...and your mind thinks and your skin feel?
Actually skin feeling (sentition) came before mind thinking (qualia)
happy forever wrote: Who grants you different delicious fruits to eat and a wife to marry?
A combination of the physiosphere, biosphere and noosphere.
happy forever wrote: Who grants you tongue to taste and talk and very concerted teeth without mold?
A combination of the physiosphere, biosphere and noosphere.
There is no scientific answer here, they are all your invented words.

Is it science?!!!
Not very widely read are you? Look outside religious texts.

The terms I used are indeed scientific...used by the renown paleontologist Teilhard de Chardin from early to mid 20th century as well as more recent scientists such as Ken Wilber and Nicholas Humphrey.
Science is science, brother. No opinions accepted in science.

Answer my questions scientifically and logically altogether.
I am not offering opinion, I am offering the scientific views of scientists. If you choose not to follow up on the source of this science, you only have yourself to blame for ignorance of the science.

OTOH...The world is nothing more than an embodiment of the objects perceived by the five sense-organs. Since, through these five sense-organs, a single mind perceives the world, the world is nothing but the mind. Apart from the mind can there be a world?

What are you offering? Stories from a 7th century illiterate?
Sorry for the late reply, may you explain how evolution makes you alive now?

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happy forever wrote:
bernee wrote:
I am not offering opinion, I am offering the scientific views of scientists. If you choose not to follow up on the source of this science, you only have yourself to blame for ignorance of the science.

OTOH...The world is nothing more than an embodiment of the objects perceived by the five sense-organs. Since, through these five sense-organs, a single mind perceives the world, the world is nothing but the mind. Apart from the mind can there be a world?

What are you offering? Stories from a 7th century illiterate?
Sorry for the late reply, may you explain how evolution makes you alive now?
The universe as it is now perceived by we sentient beings is the emergent result of 13.7 billion years of evolution. Evolution occurs and in occurring at every level of existence " including the spiritual.

From a single cell a human being develops in nine months. Remarkable isnt it?

Now imagine what can happen over 18 billion times that period.
"Whatever you are totally ignorant of, assert to be the explanation of everything else"

William James quoting Dr. Hodgson

"When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."

Nisargadatta Maharaj

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bernee51 wrote:
happy forever wrote:
bernee wrote:
I am not offering opinion, I am offering the scientific views of scientists. If you choose not to follow up on the source of this science, you only have yourself to blame for ignorance of the science.

OTOH...The world is nothing more than an embodiment of the objects perceived by the five sense-organs. Since, through these five sense-organs, a single mind perceives the world, the world is nothing but the mind. Apart from the mind can there be a world?

What are you offering? Stories from a 7th century illiterate?
Sorry for the late reply, may you explain how evolution makes you alive now?
The universe as it is now perceived by we sentient beings is the emergent result of 13.7 billion years of evolution. Evolution occurs and in occurring at every level of existence " including the spiritual.

From a single cell a human being develops in nine months. Remarkable isnt it?

Now imagine what can happen over 18 billion times that period.
No, this is wrong.

What happens to the sperm inside the egg is not development at all.
On the contrary, it is against development, it is defined stages according to defined rules executed perfectly.

Do you know what is the meaning of evolution??

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