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According to the teaching of ( Judaism ) how do they really feel about Jesus ?

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Autodidact wrote:For me, anti-semitism is a symptom of pure evil. When someone exhibits it, they let us know that they are a deeply damaged person desperately in need of help. Unfortunately, if not managed, such people can also inflict terrible damage.
I will agree with that statement, although I would replace the term 'bigotry' , since making crude , rude and socially unacceptable comments about someone due to their religion, gender, sexual preference, or ethnic group is equally unacceptable.
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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Goat wrote: I will agree with that statement, although I would replace the term 'bigotry' , since making crude , rude and socially unacceptable comments about someone due to their religion, gender, sexual preference, or ethnic group is equally unacceptable.
Would this include anyone who openly disagrees with and opposes the policies of the State of Israel?

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Tired of the Nonsense wrote:
Goat wrote: I will agree with that statement, although I would replace the term 'bigotry' , since making crude , rude and socially unacceptable comments about someone due to their religion, gender, sexual preference, or ethnic group is equally unacceptable.
Would this include anyone who openly disagrees with and opposes the policies of the State of Israel?
Please note that this subject has not been raised in this thread. Rather, the poster, now banned, trotted out a bunch of false, bigoted and irrational phobias and myths about Jews.

btw, many Jews oppose many actions and policies of the state of Israel.

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Tired of the Nonsense wrote:
Goat wrote: I will agree with that statement, although I would replace the term 'bigotry' , since making crude , rude and socially unacceptable comments about someone due to their religion, gender, sexual preference, or ethnic group is equally unacceptable.
Would this include anyone who openly disagrees with and opposes the policies of the State of Israel?
That depends.. .. is it a reasoned position based on the facts, or is it a knee jerk reaction because the State of Israel is Jewish? Do they take into account all the information, or are the claimed facts slanted and biased?

There are many reasons to criticize the State of Israel, but very often, those who do are not 'fair and balanced' in their criticisms.
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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Goat wrote:
I will agree with that statement, although I would replace the term 'bigotry' , since making crude , rude and socially unacceptable comments about someone due to their religion, gender, sexual preference, or ethnic group is equally unacceptable.

Tired of the nonsense wrote:
Would this include anyone who openly disagrees with and opposes the policies of the State of Israel?

Autodidact wrote:
Please note that this subject has not been raised in this thread. Rather, the poster, now banned, trotted out a bunch of false, bigoted and irrational phobias and myths about Jews.

btw, many Jews oppose many actions and policies of the state of Israel.

The subject has been raised now. I was simply asking Goat's opinion on the question.

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Goat wrote:
I will agree with that statement, although I would replace the term 'bigotry' , since making crude , rude and socially unacceptable comments about someone due to their religion, gender, sexual preference, or ethnic group is equally unacceptable.

Tired of the Nonsense wrote:
Would this include anyone who openly disagrees with and opposes the policies of the State of Israel?

Goat wrote:
That depends.. .. is it a reasoned position based on the facts, or is it a knee jerk reaction because the State of Israel is Jewish? Do they take into account all the information, or are the claimed facts slanted and biased?

There are many reasons to criticize the State of Israel, but very often, those who do are not 'fair and balanced' in their criticisms.
The exact opposite sort of "fair and balanced" view of Israel exists in respect to Christian evangelicals and other groups who are in blind lockstep with the policies of Israel simply because they are Jews and therefore God's chosen people and and as such above criticism, all according to God's plan, praise the Lord. Being accused of antisemitism, as I on occasion have been, simply because I do NOT happen to be in blind lockstep with all of Israel's policies and because I happen to consider the Palestinians to be human beings and as such as deserving of the same rights and respect as any other human beings is infuriating. To often the term "antisemitism" is being used as a shield to disguise the very bigotry you have just mentioned. But I was accusing you personally of none of this. I simply asked your opinion.

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Tired of the Nonsense wrote:
Goat wrote:
I will agree with that statement, although I would replace the term 'bigotry' , since making crude , rude and socially unacceptable comments about someone due to their religion, gender, sexual preference, or ethnic group is equally unacceptable.

Tired of the Nonsense wrote:
Would this include anyone who openly disagrees with and opposes the policies of the State of Israel?

Goat wrote:
That depends.. .. is it a reasoned position based on the facts, or is it a knee jerk reaction because the State of Israel is Jewish? Do they take into account all the information, or are the claimed facts slanted and biased?

There are many reasons to criticize the State of Israel, but very often, those who do are not 'fair and balanced' in their criticisms.
The exact opposite sort of "fair and balanced" view of Israel exists in respect to Christian evangelicals and other groups who are in blind lockstep with the policies of Israel simply because they are Jews and therefore God's chosen people and and as such above criticism, all according to God's plan, praise the Lord. Being accused of antisemitism, as I on occasion have been, simply because I do NOT happen to be in blind lockstep with all of Israel's policies and because I happen to consider the Palestinians to be human beings and as such as deserving of the same rights and respect as any other human beings is infuriating. To often the term "antisemitism" is being used as a shield to disguise the very bigotry you have just mentioned. But I was accusing you personally of none of this. I simply asked your opinion.
I will say those Christian evangelists are for them, since they see the 'state of Israel' needed for the second coming of Jesus, not because the State of Israel is Jewish. I will agree.. the Palestinians are human, and many suffer needlessly because of the inability of their leadership and Israel to come to a mutually acceptable agreement. Israel is certainly not blameless when it comes to their suffering, but their leadership, and other Arab countries using them as a political pawn does not help
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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