Noah and the Unicorns

ThatGirlAgain · Post by **ThatGirlAgain** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:28 pm

Jax Agnesson wrote:But maybe this is what happened to the unicorns:
As soon as the boat settled on land, Noah cut some of it up to make a fire, and chose the most beautiful animals to sacrifice to the LORD.

Or maybe thisâ€¦

bluethread · Post by **bluethread** » Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:05 pm

Genesis 7:2 KJV
"Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens , the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female."

It appears that none were left behind, including roaches and bedbugs, and Noach knew about clean and unclean animals. We see later that clean has little to do with beauty, unless one considers lions and tigers and bears to be less beautiful tahn cattle, goats and sheep.

Moses Yoder · Post by **Moses Yoder** » Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:09 am

Unicorns are alive and well today, in very remote areas. I was watching a documentary on Merlin one time and saw Arhtur Pendragon shoot a unicorn live on TV. It turns out killing a unicorn brings a curse upon your country, so I would advise against it.

http://merlin.wikia.com/wiki/Curse_of_the_Unicorn

connermt · Post by **connermt** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:46 pm

bluethread wrote:Genesis 7:2 KJV
"Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens , the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female."

It appears that none were left behind, including roaches and bedbugs, and Noach knew about clean and unclean animals. We see later that clean has little to do with beauty, unless one considers lions and tigers and bears to be less beautiful tahn cattle, goats and sheep.

What about sea life?
You know: fish, whales, seals, sea cucumbers, crabs, sharks, rays, etc...
Oh that's right, Noah had no idea that these animals existed so god exempted him from them.

bluethread · Post by **bluethread** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:07 pm

connermt wrote:
What about sea life?
You know: fish, whales, seals, sea cucumbers, crabs, sharks, rays, etc...
Oh that's right, Noah had no idea that these animals existed so god exempted him from them.

Well, since the world was covered with water and fishfood(dead things), there is no need to fit them in. Also, who says that seals were not on the arK?

connermt · Post by **connermt** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:09 pm

bluethread wrote:
connermt wrote:
What about sea life?
You know: fish, whales, seals, sea cucumbers, crabs, sharks, rays, etc...
Oh that's right, Noah had no idea that these animals existed so god exempted him from them.
Well, since the world was covered with water and fishfood(dead things), there is no need to fit them in. Also, who says that seals were not on the arK?

Not to mention that for the earth to be flooded with water, the air would be so supersaturated with water no one could breath. Of course there's the magical god that can do what he wants, so logic isn't valid.
Add to the fact that not all that lives in the water would be able to live in fresh water.
"Of every...beast..." would include sea life as well.
Or maybe, when they edited the bible, they forgot about sea life.
Odd that god would forget though....Hm.....

Go figure

ThatGirlAgain · Post by **ThatGirlAgain** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:56 pm

connermt wrote:
bluethread wrote:
connermt wrote:
What about sea life?
You know: fish, whales, seals, sea cucumbers, crabs, sharks, rays, etc...
Oh that's right, Noah had no idea that these animals existed so god exempted him from them.
Well, since the world was covered with water and fishfood(dead things), there is no need to fit them in. Also, who says that seals were not on the arK?
Not to mention that for the earth to be flooded with water, the air would be so supersaturated with water no one could breath. Of course there's the magical god that can do what he wants, so logic isn't valid.
Add to the fact that not all that lives in the water would be able to live in fresh water.
"Of every...beast..." would include sea life as well.
Or maybe, when they edited the bible, they forgot about sea life.
Odd that god would forget though....Hm.....
Go figure

What I want to know is what happened to all those seagoing reptiles? If whales and other seagoing mammals did not die out, why did the aquatic reptiles? Or maybe Noah had a couple of whales on the ark. In a transparent aluminum enclosure of course.

bluethread · Post by **bluethread** » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:03 pm

connermt wrote:
Well, since the world was covered with water and fishfood(dead things), there is no need to fit them in. Also, who says that seals were not on the arK?

Not to mention that for the earth to be flooded with water, the air would be so supersaturated with water no one could breath. Of course there's the magical god that can do what he wants, so logic isn't valid.
Add to the fact that not all that lives in the water would be able to live in fresh water.
"Of every...beast..." would include sea life as well.
Or maybe, when they edited the bible, they forgot about sea life.
Odd that god would forget though....Hm.....

Go figure[/quote]

Well, since you are doing the figuring, we may as well just accept whatever you say. You are making presumptions, not the least of which is uniformitarian. You dismiss anything that can not be explained scientifically with the "magical god" comment and conclude that any other way of thinking is illogical. Then you presume that the water would be fresh and not salt or some other add mixture. Then you presume to have the inside track on the proper way to interpret the related verses. All of this in a thread about whether unicorns should have been included in the biblical account. Seems like a long way around the horn to me.

Goat · Post by **Goat** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:09 am

bluethread wrote:
connermt wrote:
What about sea life?
You know: fish, whales, seals, sea cucumbers, crabs, sharks, rays, etc...
Oh that's right, Noah had no idea that these animals existed so god exempted him from them.
Well, since the world was covered with water and fishfood(dead things), there is no need to fit them in. Also, who says that seals were not on the arK?

And god magically made the fish be able to surivive in a different salt balance than they used to be able to do , since it's a MIRACLE.. (another word for magic, but let's put a supernatural deity as the source)

connermt · Post by **connermt** » Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:48 am

bluethread wrote:
connermt wrote:
Well, since the world was covered with water and fishfood(dead things), there is no need to fit them in. Also, who says that seals were not on the arK?
Not to mention that for the earth to be flooded with water, the air would be so supersaturated with water no one could breath. Of course there's the magical god that can do what he wants, so logic isn't valid.
Add to the fact that not all that lives in the water would be able to live in fresh water.
"Of every...beast..." would include sea life as well.
Or maybe, when they edited the bible, they forgot about sea life.
Odd that god would forget though....Hm.....
Go figure

Well, since you are doing the figuring, we may as well just accept whatever you say. You are making presumptions, not the least of which is uniformitarian. You dismiss anything that can not be explained scientifically with the "magical god" comment and conclude that any other way of thinking is illogical. Then you presume that the water would be fresh and not salt or some other add mixture. Then you presume to have the inside track on the proper way to interpret the related verses. All of this in a thread about whether unicorns should have been included in the biblical account. Seems like a long way around the horn to me.[/quote]

And you make assumptions that fit your belief. The difference between yours and mine is that mine is based on what we know now, not what some think an invisible magic man could do if it wanted. An invisible magician that, you must know, hasn't been proven to exist past what a person believes based on a book written by men and personal experiences. That's fine for the individual, but don't expect others who actually think for themselves to believe what you believe because you believe it.

That's the problem when dealing with believers that refuse logic: because their god doesn't require laws, rules, logic, etc., they can make up any combination of claims, sit back and say "you can't prove that didn't happen" and unjustifiably feel vindicated.
Logic and christianity doesn't mix well for that one reason.