There are many misconceptions that exist within the field of Islam one being the topic of women. Unfortunately due to ignorance and lack of knowledge of some people and the ever growing propaganda and Islamaphobia that exist today, including the ever growing media agenda’s that govern the way people think and act, women are deemed as being unequal to men in Islam.
We are all aware that women and men are not alike so I don’t understand when someone makes the statement that Islam should practice equality, what do you mean by equality??? This word – equality – which many thinkers in both the east and the west advocate in various fields of life is a word which is based on deviation and a lack of understanding, especially when it is attributed to the religion to Islam. One of the things that people misunderstand is when they say that “Islam is the religion of equality�. What they should say is that Islam is the religion of justice.
Here we should note that there are some people who speak of equality instead of justice, and this is a mistake. We should not say equality, because equality implies no differentiation between the two. Because of this unjust call for equality, people start to ask, what is the difference between male and female?’ So they made males and females the same. We are all aware that the Male is not like the female.
God says in the Quran:
“And the male is not like the female�[Quran Aal ‘Imraan 3:36] The male is different from the female in many ways, in his strength, in his body, in his toughness and roughness, whereas women are soft and gentle. Women are like men in some aspects and they differ from them in others. Most of the rulings of Islam apply to men and women equally.
In cases where a distinction is made between the sexes, the Muslim regards that as a mercy from God and a sign of His knowledge of His creation, but the arrogant people see it as oppression and injustice, so he stubbornly insists on claiming that men and women are the same. So let him tell us how a man can carry a foetus and breastfeed it? He stubbornly ignores the weakness of women and how they bleed during their monthly period, and he stubbornly refuses to accept reality.
But the Muslim is still at peace with his faith, surrendering to the command of God. “Should not He who has created know? And He is the Most Kind and Courteous (to His slaves), All Aware (of everything)� [Quran al-Mulk 67:14 ]
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Post #581
So is it common for people-who-say-they-are-Muslim to lie?@ Autodidact
QUOTE: "Who decides whether they are following Islam? So if I follow you, if I meet someone, and they say they are Muslim, that doesn't necessarily mean they are? They might be lying? Do a lot of people-who-say-they-are-Muslims lie?"
ANSWER: The Quran and Sunnah of the Prophet (peace be upon him), no it doesn't mean they are Muslims, as there are many things that take one out of the fold of Islam. They could be lying lol, I'm not sure if they believe lying is permissible I guess anything is possible.
btw, what religion are you?
Who decides who is a True Muslim, and whether these p.w.s.t.a.m's really are?
I understand. You disagree with reality. That has no effect on reality. YOu have a right to your own opinion. You do not have a right to your own facts.QUOTE: "No, I merely showed that Muslims are less happy than non-Muslims, the opposite of what you said. As to why, we would need to speculate and discuss. But before we move on to why, we first need to establish and agree on this fact. Do you agree or disagree that Muslims tend to be less happy than non-Muslims?"
ANSWER: I disagree, based on applying the laws of God in full.
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Post #583
@ A Troubled Man
QUOTE: "Since you don't know much about evolution, you would be lying if you claimed that site had "ample evidence" to support their claims, just as they are lying about evolution. However, I understand why you would post an Islamic propaganda site as your source.Â
For example, this is an outright blatant bold faced lie...Â
"As you have seen, the fossil record shows that living things did not follow a progression from the primitive to the more developed, as the theory of evolution would have us believe. Rather, living things emerged suddenly and in the most perfect state. This, in turn, constitutes proof that life came into being not by random natural processes, but by conscious Creation."
ANSWER: Lol, its natural for you to feel this way I think I would be very angry also if I had all this evidence against me also he he. Why is it a lie?? In my opinion the evidence is very clear it's easy to claim something is a lie, where is your proof? So what is your opinion in regards to the above statement, how can you refute it??
QUOTE: "Since you don't know much about evolution, you would be lying if you claimed that site had "ample evidence" to support their claims, just as they are lying about evolution. However, I understand why you would post an Islamic propaganda site as your source.Â
For example, this is an outright blatant bold faced lie...Â
"As you have seen, the fossil record shows that living things did not follow a progression from the primitive to the more developed, as the theory of evolution would have us believe. Rather, living things emerged suddenly and in the most perfect state. This, in turn, constitutes proof that life came into being not by random natural processes, but by conscious Creation."
ANSWER: Lol, its natural for you to feel this way I think I would be very angry also if I had all this evidence against me also he he. Why is it a lie?? In my opinion the evidence is very clear it's easy to claim something is a lie, where is your proof? So what is your opinion in regards to the above statement, how can you refute it??
Post #584
@ A Troubled Man
QUOTE: "A number of us have already done so on this thread alone. Yes, I know you reject them."
ANSWER: I find it really strange how you think you know Islam. Â
QUOTE: "LOL! There are no differences when it comes to doing harm to others, it is a unanimous decision. Your gods laws are barbaric and do harm to others, hence they should be rejected"
ANSWER: Harm to others?? Like??
QUOTE: "LOL! You really should try to use a dictionary sometimes and look up the word oppressive."
ANSWER: Thanks for your advice.Â
QUOTE: "There is no equality there"
ANSWER: No, there is Justice.
QUOTE: "That would be the Islamic society that would demand those things"
ANSWER: It's actually God that instructs us on how we should behave and dress so why do you not follow Him?
QUOTE: "That is another lie. Women are effective leaders in anything they do"
ANSWER: God knows what is best for a society, that is your opinion.
QUOTE: "That is nonsense. Islam forces women, societies don't"
ANSWER: Wrong, we submit to our Creator.
QUOTE: "What do gift have to do with anything? That is nonsense."
ANSWER: If you claim there should be equality then shouldn't it apply to all  situations? If men and women are the same then shouldn't they be treated the same??
QUOTE: "Yes, you do great harm by the things you say, like all other Islamic propagandists."
ANSWER: I'm the one calling someone an Islamic propagandists lol
QUOTE: "A number of us have already done so on this thread alone. Yes, I know you reject them."
ANSWER: I find it really strange how you think you know Islam. Â
QUOTE: "LOL! There are no differences when it comes to doing harm to others, it is a unanimous decision. Your gods laws are barbaric and do harm to others, hence they should be rejected"
ANSWER: Harm to others?? Like??
QUOTE: "LOL! You really should try to use a dictionary sometimes and look up the word oppressive."
ANSWER: Thanks for your advice.Â
QUOTE: "There is no equality there"
ANSWER: No, there is Justice.
QUOTE: "That would be the Islamic society that would demand those things"
ANSWER: It's actually God that instructs us on how we should behave and dress so why do you not follow Him?
QUOTE: "That is another lie. Women are effective leaders in anything they do"
ANSWER: God knows what is best for a society, that is your opinion.
QUOTE: "That is nonsense. Islam forces women, societies don't"
ANSWER: Wrong, we submit to our Creator.
QUOTE: "What do gift have to do with anything? That is nonsense."
ANSWER: If you claim there should be equality then shouldn't it apply to all  situations? If men and women are the same then shouldn't they be treated the same??
QUOTE: "Yes, you do great harm by the things you say, like all other Islamic propagandists."
ANSWER: I'm the one calling someone an Islamic propagandists lol
Post #585
@ Autodidact
QUOTE: "We have already established that there is no such thing as True Islam, and that people-who-call-themselves-Muslim lie a lot. I have no idea what True Islam is or whether they practice it. What I do know is that they call themselves Muslim, attempt to practice what they think is Islam to the best of their abilities, and as a direct result, commit atrocities, while atheists go about their business peacefully, being killed by Muslims merely for expressing their opinions.Â
For example, do you see Muslim clerics hiring bodyguards to protect themselves from being shot by atheists? No. While Ayaan Ali and Wafa Sultan have to pay for round the clock protection, because they had the courage to criticize Islam."
ANSWER: With all due respect you have chosen to establish this understanding of Islam without attempting to understand it, why criticize Islam in the first place?? The problem with this is you claim to be peaceful and go about your business but at the same time you say the most unimaginable things about someone's faith, and then you expect Muslims to not defend themselves, this is outrageous.Â
QUOTE: "Because they are bad laws, and cause Muslims to suffer needlessly in poverty, ignorance and violence, especially Muslim women. And I care about Muslim women, because, like me, they are human beings"
ANSWER: They are Gods laws the best laws for all of mankind, Islam actually fixes these problems it does not create them like man-made laws do.
QUOTE: "Maybe in your mythical True Islam, which does not exist. Meanwhile, in actual Islam, she cannot take any job or even leave her house without her husband's permission"
ANSWER: Have you looked into Islamic History before??
QUOTE: "So that's the rationale for the discrimination. It's still wrong"
ANSWER: Everything I say is wrong so why you here lol
QUOTE: "Protects herself in what way? By buying a gun?"
ANSWER: By covering up this prevents many immoralities that exist within societies, adultery, fornication etc.
QUOTE: "Thank you again for clearing up any misconception we may have had about Islam permitting equality for women.Â
Obviously, if men are a danger, then it is men whose freedom should be restricted, not women"
ANSWER: Any time!, men are a danger only if they do not worship God the way they are meant too, both are responsible for their actions, both are commanded to practice modesty.
QUOTE: "Please, do go on with your sexist stereotypes that have no basis in reality, you're doing wonders for clearing up our misconceptions that Islam is not sexist"
ANSWER: Islam makes this very clear, a man's job is not the same as the female, as stated previously Islam does not impose unwanted burden on the opposite sex more than what it can handle, and who is more better in knowing this, humans who think they can do everything and anything with no boundaries or our Creator that is all Wise and All-Knowing the one who has fashioned and Created us?
QUOTE: "But what I asked you for in not your bigotry, but evidence to support it. Do you have any? Because if you want evidence that women are just as intelligent and capable of men, I have reams"
ANSWER: What evidence would you like, from the Quran? There is no doubt that there are women just as intelligent and capable of men this has already been agreed, but the roles in society are different.
QUOTE: "We have already established that there is no such thing as True Islam, and that people-who-call-themselves-Muslim lie a lot. I have no idea what True Islam is or whether they practice it. What I do know is that they call themselves Muslim, attempt to practice what they think is Islam to the best of their abilities, and as a direct result, commit atrocities, while atheists go about their business peacefully, being killed by Muslims merely for expressing their opinions.Â
For example, do you see Muslim clerics hiring bodyguards to protect themselves from being shot by atheists? No. While Ayaan Ali and Wafa Sultan have to pay for round the clock protection, because they had the courage to criticize Islam."
ANSWER: With all due respect you have chosen to establish this understanding of Islam without attempting to understand it, why criticize Islam in the first place?? The problem with this is you claim to be peaceful and go about your business but at the same time you say the most unimaginable things about someone's faith, and then you expect Muslims to not defend themselves, this is outrageous.Â
QUOTE: "Because they are bad laws, and cause Muslims to suffer needlessly in poverty, ignorance and violence, especially Muslim women. And I care about Muslim women, because, like me, they are human beings"
ANSWER: They are Gods laws the best laws for all of mankind, Islam actually fixes these problems it does not create them like man-made laws do.
QUOTE: "Maybe in your mythical True Islam, which does not exist. Meanwhile, in actual Islam, she cannot take any job or even leave her house without her husband's permission"
ANSWER: Have you looked into Islamic History before??
QUOTE: "So that's the rationale for the discrimination. It's still wrong"
ANSWER: Everything I say is wrong so why you here lol
QUOTE: "Protects herself in what way? By buying a gun?"
ANSWER: By covering up this prevents many immoralities that exist within societies, adultery, fornication etc.
QUOTE: "Thank you again for clearing up any misconception we may have had about Islam permitting equality for women.Â
Obviously, if men are a danger, then it is men whose freedom should be restricted, not women"
ANSWER: Any time!, men are a danger only if they do not worship God the way they are meant too, both are responsible for their actions, both are commanded to practice modesty.
QUOTE: "Please, do go on with your sexist stereotypes that have no basis in reality, you're doing wonders for clearing up our misconceptions that Islam is not sexist"
ANSWER: Islam makes this very clear, a man's job is not the same as the female, as stated previously Islam does not impose unwanted burden on the opposite sex more than what it can handle, and who is more better in knowing this, humans who think they can do everything and anything with no boundaries or our Creator that is all Wise and All-Knowing the one who has fashioned and Created us?
QUOTE: "But what I asked you for in not your bigotry, but evidence to support it. Do you have any? Because if you want evidence that women are just as intelligent and capable of men, I have reams"
ANSWER: What evidence would you like, from the Quran? There is no doubt that there are women just as intelligent and capable of men this has already been agreed, but the roles in society are different.
Post #586
@'Autodidact
QUOTE: "Oh, I thought you were familiar with the qu'ran, o.k.Â
Quran 15: 19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon Mountains firm and immovable...Â
Many other verses, which I can cite if you like, assume a flat earth.
ANSWER: So how exactly is this talking about the earth being flat?? God is mentioning His creation of the earth and how He spread it out, and the firm mountains, valleys, lands and sands that he has placed in it, and the plants and fruits that He causes to grow in their appropriate locations.
QURAN: 15:19
"And the earth - We have spread it and cast therein firmly set mountains and caused to grow therein [something] of every well-balanced thing"
QUOTE: "Oh, I thought you were familiar with the qu'ran, o.k.Â
Quran 15: 19 And the earth We have spread out (like a carpet); set thereon Mountains firm and immovable...Â
Many other verses, which I can cite if you like, assume a flat earth.
ANSWER: So how exactly is this talking about the earth being flat?? God is mentioning His creation of the earth and how He spread it out, and the firm mountains, valleys, lands and sands that he has placed in it, and the plants and fruits that He causes to grow in their appropriate locations.
QURAN: 15:19
"And the earth - We have spread it and cast therein firmly set mountains and caused to grow therein [something] of every well-balanced thing"
Post #587
@ Autodidact
QUOTE: "You need me to explain what I mean by "own?" Wow. O.K., if I own something, it belongs to me. I can sell it or give it away, as I want. I can leave it in my will to my heirs. It is mine. Does that answer your question?Â
So, just to be clear, you agree that this is permitted in Islam?"
ANSWER: The principle of dealing with slaves in Islam is a combination of justice, kindness and compassion. If someone is a slave in Islam you wouldn't want anyone to give you away, that's how beautifully Islam treats their slaves so much so that they become friends with their masters and become part of Muslim families, your understanding of slavery is in reference to the contemporary European version of slavery this is not the case in Islam.
QUOTE: "You need me to explain what I mean by "own?" Wow. O.K., if I own something, it belongs to me. I can sell it or give it away, as I want. I can leave it in my will to my heirs. It is mine. Does that answer your question?Â
So, just to be clear, you agree that this is permitted in Islam?"
ANSWER: The principle of dealing with slaves in Islam is a combination of justice, kindness and compassion. If someone is a slave in Islam you wouldn't want anyone to give you away, that's how beautifully Islam treats their slaves so much so that they become friends with their masters and become part of Muslim families, your understanding of slavery is in reference to the contemporary European version of slavery this is not the case in Islam.
Post #588
@ Autodidact
QUOTE: "I don't understand what you are saying. You seem to be saying that Islam permits slavery, but doesn't allow slavery. This is the definition of slavery. That's what slavery means. If Islam doesn't allow this, then it doesn't allow slavery. As I say, the more we talk, the more confused I become. Please clear this up for me.Â
Using this definition "a system under which people are treated as property to be bought and sold, and are forced to work," in that sense of the word "slavery," does Islam permit that? Yes or no. Thank you."
ANSWER: There is slavery in Islam yes, not according to this definition no, this is not the definition of slavery in Islam, this is the Western interpretation.
Islam doesn't just make anyone slaves lol, capturing prisoners during war those fighting against you, was the most common way of acquiring slaves. Prisoners would inevitably be captured during any war, and the prevalent custom at that time was that prisoners had no protection or rights, they would either be killed or enslaved. But Islam brought two more options: unconditional release or ransom. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Thereafter (is the time) either for generosity (i.e. free them without ransom), or ransom (according to what benefits Islam)â€� [Muhammad 47:4]. During the battle of Badr the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) accepted ransoms from the mushrik prisoners of war and let them go, and the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) let many of the prisoners go for free, releasing them with no ransom. During the conquest of Makkah it was said to the people of Makkah: “Go, for you are free.â€�Â
QUOTE: "Â So no, Islam does not allow slavery?"
ANSWER: UnlawfullyÂ
QUOTE: "Except that it does?Â
This is just plain silly. The rights of a slave are not equal to those of a free man. A free man OWNS a slave. The slave is property. The owner can sell the slave or give him as a gift, and the slave has no say in the matter.Â
Your utter confusion on this simple point, to the point where you are speaking gibberish, is telling us all we need to know, thank you"
ANSWER: Here are some basic principles in dealing with slaves in Islam:
1 – Guaranteeing them food and clothing like that of their masters.Â
It was narrated that Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “They are your brothers whom Allaah has put under your authority, so if Allaah has put a person’s brother under his authority, let him feed him from what he eats and clothe him from what he wears, and let him not overburden him with work, and if he does overburden him with work, then let him help him.â€� Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6050).Â
2 – Preserving their dignityÂ
It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard Abu’l-Qaasim (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Whoever accuses his slave when he is innocent of what he says will be flogged on the Day of Resurrection, unless he is as he said.â€� Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6858).Â
Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) manumitted a slave of his, then he picked up a stick or something from the ground and said: There is no more reward in it than the equivalent of this, but I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Whoever slaps his slave or beats him, his expiation is to manumit him.â€� Narrated by Muslim (1657).Â
3 – Being fair towards slaves and treating them kindlyÂ
It was narrated that ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan tweaked the ear of a slave of his when he did something wrong, then he said to him after that: Come and tweak my ear in retaliation. The slave refused but he insisted, so he started to tweak it slightly, and he said to him: Do it strongly, for I cannot bear the punishment on the Day of Resurrection. The slave said: Like that, O my master? The Day that you fear I fear also.Â
When ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn ‘Awf (may Allaah be pleased with him) walked among his slaves, no one could tell him apart from them, because he did not walk ahead of them, and he did not wear anything different from what they wore.Â
One day ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab passed by and saw some slaves standing and not eating with their master. He got angry and said to their master: What is wrong with people who are selfish towards their servants? Then he called the servants and they ate with them.Â
A man entered upon Salmaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) and found him making dough – and he was a governor. He said to him: O Abu ‘Abd-Allaah, what is this? He said: We have sent our servant on an errand and we do not want to give him two jobs at once.Â
4 – There is nothing wrong with slaves having precedence over free men in some mattersÂ
- with regard to any religious or worldly matters in which he excels over him. For example, it is valid for a slave to lead the prayer. ‘Aa’ishah the Mother of the Believers had a slave who would lead her in prayer. Indeed the Muslims have been commanded to hear and obey even if a slave is appointed in charge of their affairs.Â
5 – A slave may buy himself from his master and be free.Â
If a person is enslaved for some reason but then it becomes apparent that he has given up his wrongdoing and forgotten his past, and he has become a man who shuns evil and seeks to do good, is it permissible to respond to his request to let him go free? Islam says yes, and there are some fuqaha’ who say that this is obligatory and some who say that it is mustahabb.Â
This is what is called a mukaatabah or contract of manumission between the slave and his master. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):Â
“And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), give them such writing, if you find that there is good and honesty in them. And give them something (yourselves) out of the wealth of Allaah which He has bestowed upon you�
[al-Noor 24:33]Â
This is how Islam treats slaves justly and kindly.Â
One of the results of these guidelines is that in many cases, the slave would become a friend of his master, in some cases the master would regard him as a son. Sa’d ibn Haashim al-Khaalidi said, describing a slave of his:Â
He is not a slave, rather he is a son whom [Allaah] has put under my care.
He has supported me with his good service; he is my hands and my arms.Â
Another result of the Muslims treating slaves in this manner is that the slaves became part of Muslim families as if they were also family members. Â
Gustave le Bon says in Hadaarat al-‘Arab (Arab Civilization) (p. 459-460):Â
"What I sincerely believe is that slavery among the Muslims is better than slavery among any other people, and that the situation of slaves in the east is better than that of servants in Europe, and that slaves in the east are part of the family. Slaves who wanted to be free could attain freedom by expressing their wish. But despite that, they did not resort to exercising this right"
QUOTE: "I don't understand what you are saying. You seem to be saying that Islam permits slavery, but doesn't allow slavery. This is the definition of slavery. That's what slavery means. If Islam doesn't allow this, then it doesn't allow slavery. As I say, the more we talk, the more confused I become. Please clear this up for me.Â
Using this definition "a system under which people are treated as property to be bought and sold, and are forced to work," in that sense of the word "slavery," does Islam permit that? Yes or no. Thank you."
ANSWER: There is slavery in Islam yes, not according to this definition no, this is not the definition of slavery in Islam, this is the Western interpretation.
Islam doesn't just make anyone slaves lol, capturing prisoners during war those fighting against you, was the most common way of acquiring slaves. Prisoners would inevitably be captured during any war, and the prevalent custom at that time was that prisoners had no protection or rights, they would either be killed or enslaved. But Islam brought two more options: unconditional release or ransom. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Thereafter (is the time) either for generosity (i.e. free them without ransom), or ransom (according to what benefits Islam)â€� [Muhammad 47:4]. During the battle of Badr the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) accepted ransoms from the mushrik prisoners of war and let them go, and the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) let many of the prisoners go for free, releasing them with no ransom. During the conquest of Makkah it was said to the people of Makkah: “Go, for you are free.â€�Â
QUOTE: "Â So no, Islam does not allow slavery?"
ANSWER: UnlawfullyÂ
QUOTE: "Except that it does?Â
This is just plain silly. The rights of a slave are not equal to those of a free man. A free man OWNS a slave. The slave is property. The owner can sell the slave or give him as a gift, and the slave has no say in the matter.Â
Your utter confusion on this simple point, to the point where you are speaking gibberish, is telling us all we need to know, thank you"
ANSWER: Here are some basic principles in dealing with slaves in Islam:
1 – Guaranteeing them food and clothing like that of their masters.Â
It was narrated that Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “They are your brothers whom Allaah has put under your authority, so if Allaah has put a person’s brother under his authority, let him feed him from what he eats and clothe him from what he wears, and let him not overburden him with work, and if he does overburden him with work, then let him help him.â€� Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6050).Â
2 – Preserving their dignityÂ
It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard Abu’l-Qaasim (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Whoever accuses his slave when he is innocent of what he says will be flogged on the Day of Resurrection, unless he is as he said.â€� Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6858).Â
Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) manumitted a slave of his, then he picked up a stick or something from the ground and said: There is no more reward in it than the equivalent of this, but I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “Whoever slaps his slave or beats him, his expiation is to manumit him.â€� Narrated by Muslim (1657).Â
3 – Being fair towards slaves and treating them kindlyÂ
It was narrated that ‘Uthmaan ibn ‘Affaan tweaked the ear of a slave of his when he did something wrong, then he said to him after that: Come and tweak my ear in retaliation. The slave refused but he insisted, so he started to tweak it slightly, and he said to him: Do it strongly, for I cannot bear the punishment on the Day of Resurrection. The slave said: Like that, O my master? The Day that you fear I fear also.Â
When ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn ‘Awf (may Allaah be pleased with him) walked among his slaves, no one could tell him apart from them, because he did not walk ahead of them, and he did not wear anything different from what they wore.Â
One day ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab passed by and saw some slaves standing and not eating with their master. He got angry and said to their master: What is wrong with people who are selfish towards their servants? Then he called the servants and they ate with them.Â
A man entered upon Salmaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) and found him making dough – and he was a governor. He said to him: O Abu ‘Abd-Allaah, what is this? He said: We have sent our servant on an errand and we do not want to give him two jobs at once.Â
4 – There is nothing wrong with slaves having precedence over free men in some mattersÂ
- with regard to any religious or worldly matters in which he excels over him. For example, it is valid for a slave to lead the prayer. ‘Aa’ishah the Mother of the Believers had a slave who would lead her in prayer. Indeed the Muslims have been commanded to hear and obey even if a slave is appointed in charge of their affairs.Â
5 – A slave may buy himself from his master and be free.Â
If a person is enslaved for some reason but then it becomes apparent that he has given up his wrongdoing and forgotten his past, and he has become a man who shuns evil and seeks to do good, is it permissible to respond to his request to let him go free? Islam says yes, and there are some fuqaha’ who say that this is obligatory and some who say that it is mustahabb.Â
This is what is called a mukaatabah or contract of manumission between the slave and his master. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):Â
“And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), give them such writing, if you find that there is good and honesty in them. And give them something (yourselves) out of the wealth of Allaah which He has bestowed upon you�
[al-Noor 24:33]Â
This is how Islam treats slaves justly and kindly.Â
One of the results of these guidelines is that in many cases, the slave would become a friend of his master, in some cases the master would regard him as a son. Sa’d ibn Haashim al-Khaalidi said, describing a slave of his:Â
He is not a slave, rather he is a son whom [Allaah] has put under my care.
He has supported me with his good service; he is my hands and my arms.Â
Another result of the Muslims treating slaves in this manner is that the slaves became part of Muslim families as if they were also family members. Â
Gustave le Bon says in Hadaarat al-‘Arab (Arab Civilization) (p. 459-460):Â
"What I sincerely believe is that slavery among the Muslims is better than slavery among any other people, and that the situation of slaves in the east is better than that of servants in Europe, and that slaves in the east are part of the family. Slaves who wanted to be free could attain freedom by expressing their wish. But despite that, they did not resort to exercising this right"
Post #590
@ Burninglight
QUOTE: "lol, that was a good response. I would like to add that it is not a misconception that Islam teaches violence and condones it. The misconception is to believe it is a peaceful religion like Most Muslim want us to believe. Most western Muslims have no idea what Islam is about or capable of. These are not my misconceptions. Again, many Muslim have misconceptions of Islam."
ANSWER: Many things have been proven to be misconceptions on this page especially the fact that Islam is not a peaceful religion.Â
QUOTE: "lol, that was a good response. I would like to add that it is not a misconception that Islam teaches violence and condones it. The misconception is to believe it is a peaceful religion like Most Muslim want us to believe. Most western Muslims have no idea what Islam is about or capable of. These are not my misconceptions. Again, many Muslim have misconceptions of Islam."
ANSWER: Many things have been proven to be misconceptions on this page especially the fact that Islam is not a peaceful religion.Â
