If We Evolved from Apes...Why Are There Apes Around?

[Tommy63]

This has been the joke of non-evolutionist, but it has a lot of value if you look deeper.

If we evolved from apes, then why are there still apes around? Because we did not evolve from them. Another question I raise is, if we are just an advance race of the apes, then I would think by now, the apes would at least be building pyramids and castles and painting on walls by now. Their is not one living thing on this planet that comes close to to us in all the catagories we have[example DNA/Brain function/nervous system/emotions/etc.]. Sure you can pick similarities out but you cannot put a mark in every catagory we have. So does the leaf insect evolve from a leaf, because it looks similar?[joke]. Funny thing to me is everytime we have this major find of something that might prove the evolution theory, it always seems to be a partial of a body. And why hasn't anyone found a group of people yet? And I'm talking of these findings claiming to be 100,000's of years old. I guess we evolved alone, and on our own. Don't know how we multipied as a race if we lived by ourselves. I do believe things do evolve, but those thing evolving, whether its a beak or claw or whatever, it did not change it's entire body over that process, it only change a small part of itself. And yeah you can speak of the million year process, and put all the formulas together you want, but we did not evolve from apes.

How long are scientist gonna stare at this painting? The picture is not going to change. Of course our wonderful world of formulas can prove anything we want it to prove, because we 'created' them!

My dog knows his toys by name because he associates that word with that object. So I guess we can start looking at how we evolved from dogs as well.

"SHEILDS UP CAPTIAN!!"

[Neandertal Ned]

Scientific progress is the basis of everything you enjoy in this modern world...

I can't think of anything that Marixism and Darwinism have contributed other than socio-political ideologies that have caused immense human suffering and loss of life. Otherwise I must confess, as I type away on my modern computer keyboard, that I do enjoy the fruits of scientific technology immensely.

I have a life, a wife, 3 adult children, money in the bank and had a good job all my life.

How does that validate any of the rubbish you have spouted here?

How does "Let the ignorant be ignorant and let them live their pointless little mundane lives, let them be good little consumers producing more Drones and Soldiers...I could not care less...as long as they leave science to the thinkers." validate any of the rubbish you have spouted here?

What more do I need? The only nothing I need to have is nothing to explain.

Fine but don't debate on subjects you know nothing about.

I know as much about theories of human evolution as you do, if not more.

Don't accuse scientists of racism when you do not even know what the theory you are calling racist means.

Why not? People have been calling Darwin's theories racist ever since the catastrophic events caused by Social Darwinism.

[Serpent Oracle]

I know as much about theories of human evolution as you do, if not more.

I wish you did old chap, I wish you did....

Then all my posts would have been quite unnecessary.

[Serpent Oracle]

I can't think of anything that Marixism and Darwinism have contributed other than socio-political ideologies that have caused immense human suffering and loss of life. Otherwise I must confess, as I type away on my modern computer keyboard, that I do enjoy the fruits of scientific technology immensely.

I am not marxist nor am I a social darwinist....you must learn also about strawmen arguments.

Social darwinism is misguided and malevolent, like religion usually is.

Marxism...is a pipe dream, it is not realistic enough, improbable expectations.

No you have me all wrong brother....

[otseng]

I don't think you have the capacity for logical thought.

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[Neandertal Ned]

There were no racial groups 200,000 years ago...just one species, represented by the Afrasians.

It then logically follows that the aboriginal Negro Homo sapiens from 200,000ya who did not migrate to Asia and did not interbreed with former Asian species or races like the Neandertals but remained in Africa, are the only true ancestors of all African Negros today.

[Neandertal Ned]

Oil companies want to know where to look for oil, under your creation model, where should they look?

First of all, it is not my creation model and I am not a creation scientist, so I wouldn't have a clue and couldn't care less. You are creating a strawman if you argue on the basis of my being a creationist. I simply compare the observations and conclusions of both camps in order to keep a balanced perspective and outlook on life. You wouldn't want to fall into the category of being either a biased religious or scientific extremist, would you?

A friend of mine uses evolutionary theory to locate genes in other species that are related to genes in humans that sometimes cause cancer. By using the relatedness between species, he is able to identify the most promising homologuus gene in diverse species that he then transfers to mice that have had genes knocked out for study.

Would you like him to stop trying to cure cancer?

Of course not, but what has the "relatedness between species," got to do with tracing the origin of all racial groups on earth back to one racial group in Africa? No one doubts the genetic relatedness of all living humans and animals today but that in itself is not evidence of thier evolution from any other species that they are today.

The relatedness of all living humans and animals today, is precisely the reason my friends research has been successful, and it is evidence of their evolution from previous species.

You have a rather hypocritical attitude. If you don't believe in something, why do you tolerate enjoying the benefits of it?

There is no evidence that gene therapy has anything to do with theories of human evolution. It seems to contradict one of the basic assumptions in such theories since it treats genetic mutations as harmful and detrimental to the survial of the individual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_therapy

[Serpent Oracle]

There were no racial groups 200,000 years ago...just one species, represented by the Afrasians.

It then logically follows that the aboriginal Negro Homo sapiens from 200,000ya who did not migrate to Asia and did not interbreed with former Asian species or races like the Neandertals but remained in Africa, are the only true ancestors of all African Negros today.

I will not respond anymore on this thread...

Good luck Ned...

[Serpent Oracle]

The term negro cannot apply to humans of 200000 years ago.
They were not Negroes...they were Afrasians.

I mention it because your sickening racism cannot go unchallenged, despite my refusal to debate any further...

Stop using the term please...it is extremely offensive and unscientific.

If you use it again I will ignore you forever...I will not debate with racists, I am better than that.

[Apoapsis]

Oil companies want to know where to look for oil, under your creation model, where should they look?

First of all, it is not my creation model and I am not a creation scientist, so I wouldn't have a clue and couldn't care less. You are creating a strawman if you argue on the basis of my being a creationist. I simply compare the observations and conclusions of both camps in order to keep a balanced perspective and outlook on life. You wouldn't want to fall into the category of being either a biased religious or scientific extremist, would you?

A friend of mine uses evolutionary theory to locate genes in other species that are related to genes in humans that sometimes cause cancer. By using the relatedness between species, he is able to identify the most promising homologuus gene in diverse species that he then transfers to mice that have had genes knocked out for study.

Would you like him to stop trying to cure cancer?

Of course not, but what has the "relatedness between species," got to do with tracing the origin of all racial groups on earth back to one racial group in Africa? No one doubts the genetic relatedness of all living humans and animals today but that in itself is not evidence of thier evolution from any other species that they are today.

The relatedness of all living humans and animals today, is precisely the reason my friends research has been successful, and it is evidence of their evolution from previous species.

You have a rather hypocritical attitude. If you don't believe in something, why do you tolerate enjoying the benefits of it?

There is no evidence that gene therapy has anything to do with theories of human evolution. It seems to contradict one of the basic assumptions in such theories since it treats genetic mutations as harmful and detrimental to the survial of the individual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_therapy

It's interesting that you deny any knowledge of geology, but you are an expert in research oncology.

[Neandertal Ned]

The term negro cannot apply to humans of 200000 years ago.
They were not Negroes...they were Afrasians.

How could they be Afrasians before they left Africa?

I mention it because your sickening racism cannot go unchallenged, despite my refusal to debate any further...

Your choice.

Stop using the term please...it is extremely offensive and unscientific.

My wife doesn't mind though, and she is a Negress. Not the scientific type, of course, since I had to explain why she could call me her wonderful Caucasoid husband any time she wanted to show me off to her Negro girlfriends.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Negresses

If you use it again I will ignore you forever...I will not debate with racists, I am better than that.

Do you want a permanent divorce or just a temporary separation to give you time think things over?