Can Jesus Christ can be shown to be the Son of God

[McCulloch]

I believe that the following facets of my faith can be demonstrated by logical deduction

3. Jesus Christ is the Son of God

Can Jesus Christ can be shown to be the Son of God by logical deduction?

[catalyst]

Well I do study a little Hebrew and Greek and the bible we have is close enough. IF you can understand Jesus died for you and has everlasting salvation to any and all who ask him into their hearts then you are ok.

Ok...translate this for me.


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I would like to see, NOT the transliteration but the translation. I don't want the "SOUNDS say, English puts on them, but I would like you to translate the above, just phonetically.

BTW Strongs Lexicon nor will the Bauer-Danker help you if THAT is your "go to" as to all things Ancient Hebrew, nor will google or any other online "translate" tool help.

What you do not understand is that you really should nut out what the ORIGINAL intent was, before you can claim any assumed "truth" behind the sludge you are now reading and believe to be some "truth". The truth of the matter is.. there is ZERO in the Tanakh that points to ANY "risen from the dead" "human form" GOD and no actually recognised IN the Tanakh prophets (like Isaiah) even GO there, nor do any OT (assumed but NOT actually ANY prophet at all...ie Daniel....) allude to it) Daniel is in "writings" and NOT Prophets.

Live and learn from the stuff that came PRIOR to your "one true god" being the NT "jesus" thing.



I look forward to your reply. BTW I for very good reason do NOT accept wiki as any credible source.

Tah.

Catalyst.

[Goat]

Well I do study a little Hebrew and Greek and the bible we have is close enough. IF you can understand Jesus died for you and has everlasting salvation to any and all who ask him into their hearts then you are ok.

the problem is that this completely pagan and inconsistent to the Hebrew understanding of the Messiah.

Now can you show that Jesus is actually the SON of god? Can you prove that he existed and also that he was God's child? Thats the debate here. If you cannot then why claim he is? Wouldn't that be dishonest?

The lord says he put it in you to know him and you are without excuse ' Romans 1:18-20" . The mere fact you are here trying to prove him wrong I would say proves he exist.

If he didn't then you wouldn't care, but he put it in you to know and you are trying to lie to yourself. Look what that scripture says. He says people who SAY they don't believe are just suppressing the truth. It says they know the truth but they just want they wicked ways so they lie to themselves and to anyone who will listen.

Romans 1:18 But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness. 19 They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them.

Well, that is what Paul's opinion is, but, was Paul right? Is that true? In this subforum, the bible not considered as inerrant evidence. Can you show that is more than just religious opinion?

[Autumn Leaf]

Last part of the first chapter of New Testament, verses 18-25, tells about the birth of Jesus Christ. Probability of simultaneous occurrence of the numerical phenomena in this group of verses is about one over 200 milliard milliard (2 and 20 nought). This text can not be created by a man but must be of supernatural origin. For More info see http://kotisivu.dnainternet.fi/esa08/birth.html

[Nickman]

Last part of the first chapter of New Testament, verses 18-25, tells about the birth of Jesus Christ. Probability of simultaneous occurrence of the numerical phenomena in this group of verses is about one over 200 milliard milliard (2 and 20 nought). This text can not be created by a man but must be of supernatural origin. For More info see http://kotisivu.dnainternet.fi/esa08/birth.html

So you think that god intentionally made these verses calculate 7 everytime? Who came up with this idea? Do you not think that this person went into the text with a presupposed idea to find the number seven? Here's one for 666 in the same passages.


Joseph Accepts Jesus as His Son

18 This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about[d]: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit. 19 Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet[e] did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly.

20 But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. 21 She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus,[f] because he will save his people from their sins.
22 All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: 23 The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel[g] (which means God with us).

24 When Joseph woke up, he did what the angel of the Lord had commanded him and took Mary home as his wife. 25 But he did not consummate their marriage until she gave birth to a son. And he gave him the name Jesus.

The combination of the names of the Jesus and his mother Mary occur 6 times these are the two main characters of the Virgin Birth.

The title contains 6 words announcing the acceptance of Jesus by Joseph

Matthew 1:18 has 36 words which divided by 6 is 6

See all you have to do is see what you want to see in the text and you can find it. It is completely subjective.