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Columbia PhD in Ancient History says Jesus never existed

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How do Christians respond to Dr. Richard Carrier?

There are several lectures and debates with him on youtube.

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To go back further, Israel was enslaved by the Egyptions, and because the God of Abraham, Israelites or Jews were freed. Therefore, inorder for the egyptions to hold its own core of the spiritua nature of God, meaning "RA" they had to pronounce their Gods story.

If you remember on another thread, somehow the Jews and the Christians played an everlasting curse to one another. The fact is, it starts from the time of Moses, how they fought from slavery against the Egyptions.

The core of Christianity goes back to "RA" as God.

Constantine just put it together to establish the history and curses under one faith.
He played the peacemaker sort of speak in this respect.

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[color=red]TheTruth101[/color] wrote: To go back further, Israel was enslaved by the Egyptions, and because the God of Abraham, Israelites or Jews were freed. Therefore, inorder for the egyptions to hold its own core of the spiritua nature of God, meaning "RA" they had to pronounce their Gods story.

If you remember on another thread, somehow the Jews and the Christians played an everlasting curse to one another. The fact is, it starts from the time of Moses, how they fought from slavery against the Egyptions.

The core of Christianity goes back to "RA" as God.
Where is the evidence for any of these claims?

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Haven wrote:
[color=red]TheTruth101[/color] wrote: To go back further, Israel was enslaved by the Egyptions, and because the God of Abraham, Israelites or Jews were freed. Therefore, inorder for the egyptions to hold its own core of the spiritua nature of God, meaning "RA" they had to pronounce their Gods story.

If you remember on another thread, somehow the Jews and the Christians played an everlasting curse to one another. The fact is, it starts from the time of Moses, how they fought from slavery against the Egyptions.

The core of Christianity goes back to "RA" as God.
Where is the evidence for any of these claims?

Haven, its common sense. Go search the web. Not everything is OUT there.

If you consider the above and do the research on your own, you'll come to the same conclusion.

666. It's not confirmed as to what the number is out there is it?

In relation with the post, Judaism symbol has 6 ending points. See it clearer?




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Re: Columbia PhD in Ancient History says Jesus never existed

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alwayson wrote:
Mithrae wrote:But from your lack of response it could be inferred that you don't actually know where or how Carrier addresses Paul's claims that Jesus:
- was a Jew
- was descended from David according to the flesh (Romans 1:1-3)
- had brothers
- was crucified (the common Roman method of execution)

If so, what 'convincing case' of Carrier's are you talking about? He himself says that Paul is crucial to our views about Jesus. I've read and debated about Paul a few times and I can probably guess what Carrier might say about some of those issues. What I'm interested in is why you are so thoroughly convinced, when it seems you don't actually know Carrier's views.
I said I'm convinced the gospels are 100% fiction.

And then you go ahead talking about Paul.
The gospels also say that Jesus was a Jew, had brothers, was descended from David (Matthew and Luke at least) and was executed in the Roman manner. As far as I've seen Carrier does not offer any convincing response to Paul's comments on those points, even though he acknowledges that Paul is crucial to our view of Jesus. So in what way has Carrier convinced you that those elements shared by Paul and the gospels are 100% fiction?

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To note, one should rather be inspired to know that Christ (common mainstream name) did exist. That all the miracles were indeed performed, therefore shoujldnt have any doubts as to the principal teachings. May I emphasize, all "bodies" of the NT stayed true to the Word spoken.

Might one also note that Moses was an half egyption, half Jew sort of speak, therefore the teachings, Jews, Christianity was ever tied together. Constantine did his works in this perspective, putting the OT and the NT together.

One should note, its an important one, that I've been saying all are under 1 God. Therefore, it is my conclusion that "RA" is really "YAHWEH" that is really "ALLAH" that is really "Spirit".
God was just swinging both sides at the given time to make them learn adversity. You can't get to heavens without sacrifice and suffering.

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Re: Columbia PhD in Ancient History says Jesus never existed

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alwayson wrote:
Mithrae wrote: What I'm interested in is why you are so thoroughly convinced, when it seems you don't actually know Carrier's views.
I said I'm convinced the gospels are 100% fiction.

And then you go ahead talking about Paul.


What leads you that conclusion?

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To note, one should rather be inspired to know that Christ (common mainstream name) did exist. That all the miracles were indeed performed, therefore shoujldnt have any doubts as to the principal teachings. May I emphasize, all "bodies" of the NT stayed true to the Word spoken.

Might one also note that Moses was an half egyption, half Jew sort of speak, therefore the teachings, Jews, Christianity was ever tied together. Constantine did his works in this perspective, putting the OT and the NT together.

For the sake of the issue at hand, if one puts one and two together, it makes sense.

Tower of Babel in the Bible. Pyramids of the Egyptions. Make sense?

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Haven wrote:
[color=red]TheTruth101[/color] wrote: To go back further, Israel was enslaved by the Egyptions, and because the God of Abraham, Israelites or Jews were freed. Therefore, inorder for the egyptions to hold its own core of the spiritua nature of God, meaning "RA" they had to pronounce their Gods story.

If you remember on another thread, somehow the Jews and the Christians played an everlasting curse to one another. The fact is, it starts from the time of Moses, how they fought from slavery against the Egyptions.

The core of Christianity goes back to "RA" as God.
Where is the evidence for any of these claims?
In the history books. Archaeological books.

What do you think they say?

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Please go read the thread "The third eye. Foundation of Christianity" under C&A section. It's in relevance to this thread.
It's evidently clear now everything in the Bible did happen, and it should help people find Faith again. Chow. 8-)

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