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Help: How do I know that your God is the one, true God?

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Hi all,
I'm new here and have just read up on the policies and finished my signature, etc. I hope I've done everything correctly so far.
I would like to believe in an almighty power but the problem is that in my research I've found so many gods out there. Coming from a family that has been explicitly atheist for generations, I'm starting from scratch and am looking at all religions.
I am sincerely curious to know how would I know, for instance, that your god is the one, true God?
Thank you.

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arian wrote:
Kir Komrik wrote:
TheTruth101 wrote: First and foremost, if the OP is new to the religion, he should first be estalbished with the guidence of proper concept of Christianity. Meaning, if he is a new convert, then he has to see the light before he establishes him to seek the deeper darker truth.
Well, not exactly. Before I can be a convert I have to know to what I am converting. First I have to know if the god you're speaking of is The One, True God. There are thousands of gods out there. A lifetime isn't long enough to study and experience all of them. I need some way to know which one is the real McCoy out of the plethora of imposters first.
My God of the Bible 'is the One True God', and if you were me, you would know that. But since you are not me, nor do we know who you are (you could be typing this here debate from a nude Gentleman's Club waiting for your next table-dance?), no one can really tell you how YOU WOULD KNOW the One True God?

Here, please answer me this: "How would I know that your answer of '4' to a mathematical question is the right answer? There are thousands, and even millions of mathematical questions out there, how would I know that yours is the right one?" :lol: ... huh, .... how would I know that? :P
I don't remember him claiming that he had the answer to some mathematical question.

Unlike you:
My God of the Bible 'is the One True God'
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Clownboat wrote:
arian wrote:
Kir Komrik wrote:
TheTruth101 wrote: First and foremost, if the OP is new to the religion, he should first be estalbished with the guidence of proper concept of Christianity. Meaning, if he is a new convert, then he has to see the light before he establishes him to seek the deeper darker truth.
Well, not exactly. Before I can be a convert I have to know to what I am converting. First I have to know if the god you're speaking of is The One, True God. There are thousands of gods out there. A lifetime isn't long enough to study and experience all of them. I need some way to know which one is the real McCoy out of the plethora of imposters first.
My God of the Bible 'is the One True God', and if you were me, you would know that. But since you are not me, nor do we know who you are (you could be typing this here debate from a nude Gentleman's Club waiting for your next table-dance?), no one can really tell you how YOU WOULD KNOW the One True God?

Here, please answer me this: "How would I know that your answer of '4' to a mathematical question is the right answer? There are thousands, and even millions of mathematical questions out there, how would I know that yours is the right one?" :lol: ... huh, .... how would I know that? :P
I don't remember him claiming that he had the answer to some mathematical question.
I don't remember me explaining to him that 'my God is the One True God' when he posted this OP "How do I know that your God is the one, true God?" either.
Clownboat wrote:Unlike you:
My God of the Bible 'is the One True God'
Come on Clownboat, ... just admit you are lost here. You make very little or no sense in your posts to me, but are just hunting me, following me around to try to rouse me, which is against forum rules. ... well for most of us anyways.

I still love you though, and would love to meet you someday ... before 'That Day' of the Lord.

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Kir Komrik wrote: Hi all,
I'm new here and have just read up on the policies and finished my signature, etc. I hope I've done everything correctly so far.
I would like to believe in an almighty power but the problem is that in my research I've found so many gods out there. Coming from a family that has been explicitly atheist for generations, I'm starting from scratch and am looking at all religions.
I am sincerely curious to know how would I know, for instance, that your god is the one, true God?
Thank you.
Let me ask you a question.... How can a god forbid self worship (since he is the only one we would be permitted to worship) without being guilty of hypocrisy? He would be violating his own rule of law by commanding us to worship him. He would be in essence saying..."do as I say and not as I do." Christianity is the only religion that can remedy this problem.

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Zetesis Apistia wrote:
Kir Komrik wrote: Hi all,
I'm new here and have just read up on the policies and finished my signature, etc. I hope I've done everything correctly so far.
I would like to believe in an almighty power but the problem is that in my research I've found so many gods out there. Coming from a family that has been explicitly atheist for generations, I'm starting from scratch and am looking at all religions.
I am sincerely curious to know how would I know, for instance, that your god is the one, true God?
Thank you.
Let me ask you a question.... How can a god forbid self worship (since he is the only one we would be permitted to worship) without being guilty of hypocrisy? He would be violating his own rule of law by commanding us to worship him. He would be in essence saying..."do as I say and not as I do." Christianity is the only religion that can remedy this problem.
Really?? And how does it do that??
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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Goat wrote:
Zetesis Apistia wrote:
Kir Komrik wrote: Hi all,
I'm new here and have just read up on the policies and finished my signature, etc. I hope I've done everything correctly so far.
I would like to believe in an almighty power but the problem is that in my research I've found so many gods out there. Coming from a family that has been explicitly atheist for generations, I'm starting from scratch and am looking at all religions.
I am sincerely curious to know how would I know, for instance, that your god is the one, true God?
Thank you.
Let me ask you a question.... How can a god forbid self worship (since he is the only one we would be permitted to worship) without being guilty of hypocrisy? He would be violating his own rule of law by commanding us to worship him. He would be in essence saying..."do as I say and not as I do." Christianity is the only religion that can remedy this problem.
Really?? And how does it do that??
The Christian God has two thrones. Neither one seeks worship for himself. He will only seek it for the opposite part of the Godhead. The Christian God does not self worship.

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Zetesis Apistia wrote:
Goat wrote:
Zetesis Apistia wrote:
Kir Komrik wrote: Hi all,
I'm new here and have just read up on the policies and finished my signature, etc. I hope I've done everything correctly so far.
I would like to believe in an almighty power but the problem is that in my research I've found so many gods out there. Coming from a family that has been explicitly atheist for generations, I'm starting from scratch and am looking at all religions.
I am sincerely curious to know how would I know, for instance, that your god is the one, true God?
Thank you.
Let me ask you a question.... How can a god forbid self worship (since he is the only one we would be permitted to worship) without being guilty of hypocrisy? He would be violating his own rule of law by commanding us to worship him. He would be in essence saying..."do as I say and not as I do." Christianity is the only religion that can remedy this problem.
Really?? And how does it do that??
The Christian God has two thrones. Neither one seeks worship for himself. He will only seek it for the opposite part of the Godhead. The Christian God does not self worship.

That seems like a polythestiic interpretation of things.
And, doesn't resolve what you think is an issue.
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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Goat wrote:
Zetesis Apistia wrote:
Goat wrote:
Zetesis Apistia wrote:
Kir Komrik wrote: Hi all,
I'm new here and have just read up on the policies and finished my signature, etc. I hope I've done everything correctly so far.
I would like to believe in an almighty power but the problem is that in my research I've found so many gods out there. Coming from a family that has been explicitly atheist for generations, I'm starting from scratch and am looking at all religions.
I am sincerely curious to know how would I know, for instance, that your god is the one, true God?
Thank you.
Let me ask you a question.... How can a god forbid self worship (since he is the only one we would be permitted to worship) without being guilty of hypocrisy? He would be violating his own rule of law by commanding us to worship him. He would be in essence saying..."do as I say and not as I do." Christianity is the only religion that can remedy this problem.
Really?? And how does it do that??
The Christian God has two thrones. Neither one seeks worship for himself. He will only seek it for the opposite part of the Godhead. The Christian God does not self worship.

That seems like a polythestiic interpretation of things.
And, doesn't resolve what you think is an issue.
The Christian God is one God who manifests into two sub-forms. None of the manifestations is permitted to engage in self worship. Each must worship the opposite part of the Godhead.

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Zetesis Apistia wrote:
The Christian God is one God who manifests into two sub-forms. None of the manifestations is permitted to engage in self worship. Each must worship the opposite part of the Godhead.
He does?? He is??

Really??? That seems to be a large claim. Can you show it to be true.

Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu are all part of the same Godhead, and their worship was hundreds of years before Christianity (or even Judaism).
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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Goat wrote:
Zetesis Apistia wrote:
The Christian God is one God who manifests into two sub-forms. None of the manifestations is permitted to engage in self worship. Each must worship the opposite part of the Godhead.
He does?? He is??

Really??? That seems to be a large claim. Can you show it to be true.
Call it a hypothesis. Can you prove that the first cell came from outer space? I didn't think so yet I doubt that you have a problem with science making the claim. I can use historical writings to back up my claim. Now where did the first cell come from?

Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu are all part of the same Godhead, and their worship was hundreds of years before Christianity (or even Judaism).
Christianity has its roots in Judaism. Judaism is 6000 years old according to Hebrew geneology. How old are these religions and how do you know?

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Zetesis Apistia wrote:
Goat wrote:
Zetesis Apistia wrote:
The Christian God is one God who manifests into two sub-forms. None of the manifestations is permitted to engage in self worship. Each must worship the opposite part of the Godhead.
He does?? He is??

Really??? That seems to be a large claim. Can you show it to be true.
Call it a hypothesis. Can you prove that the first cell came from outer space? I didn't think so yet I doubt that you have a problem with science making the claim. I can use historical writings to back up my claim. Now where did the first cell come from?

Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu are all part of the same Godhead, and their worship was hundreds of years before Christianity (or even Judaism).
Christianity has its roots in Judaism. Judaism is 6000 years old according to Hebrew geneology. How old are these religions and how do you know?

I guess the same way they know the universe is expanding, ... or wait, is it receding? If it's receding than T=0 more than 13 billion years ago must have been very, very big, and not so small that it fit into 'nothing'. Anyways, I guess they use background radiation to determine who came first; Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu, or the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? I mean who can argue with such technology as background radiation to reveal the past? We only have the Bible.

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