One more thing. I have heard this a million times. You might say, "Old books don't show evidence." Not only do they show evidence, they hold their own empirical truth to match. Although I won't get to this now, I will answer it when necessary.
Biblical axioms have always stood the test of time. Disagreeing with this simply shows that you may not have the higher axiom. Of course, lower axioms always present contradiction and paradox. Until the next level is known, you cannot rise, nor can a lower paradox be shown to be true if higher truth can be seen as evident. In this thread, open your mind and be willing to rise with me. Do we have compelling evidence for a Creator? Indeed, it's the only plausible conclusion. I have two bits of evidence that must be overcome before we can show Evolution as a cause and not simply a result. Evolution is the primary thesis of this thread. I will both demonstrate it as a false cause and a primary result. Both are true. Evolution is what God intended.
Collapsing Wave Function
Any evolutionist, when pressed against the wall, will say that the theory does not suggest that evolution is the cause of life. If we consider the Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics, it is clear that collapsing wave function entirely denies the separation of matter from consciousness. For an indeterminate states of matter (High order and low entropy) to be changed toward purpose, there must be a consciousness collapsing the wave function to determine the new state. Mathematically, it could never be any other way. A quick examination of our current understanding of quantum mechanics denies the possibility that evolution could ever engage consciousness in life from Hydrogen and Helium in a state of high order. Evolution is the mechanism of change, but consciousness is the engine that governs the mechanics. Again, mathematics demonstrates this to be true. Water and light are the first matrix of life as you will come to see.
Entropy in Information
Getting over the first hurdle of collapsing wave function presupposes the next characteristic of our universe. Information degrades over time. To deny entropy toward a living consciousness is impossible apart from an original consciousness collapsing wave function. Many of you will hit reply at this point to say that entropy can be overcome in nature in some cases. You are likely referring to entropy in energy. Entropy in information is fundamentally different. When we examine DNA as a digital platform for rendering elements into conscious life, the notion of this information assembling itself is entirely denied. Entropy in information would kill any possibility in a harsh environment of hydrogen and helium. Again, the mathematics of entropy in information theory denies the possibility.
Unless anyone here can get past these two fundamentals axioms in science, the most likely cause of evolution is programming. Programming cannot arise by itself unless it can be empirically demonstrated that information arises to complexity apart from consciousness collapsing the wave function. In simple examples, this can be shown to engage and fail over time. Entropy in energy and information collapses to chaos. You can try and argue around this, but the governing aspect of quantum mechanics shows purpose toward this goal. Until you can show why the governing process allows for the possibility, probability denies you quickly. Precision settings in this universe are governed. This is clearly seen to be the case. Again, our most evident axiom is a governor.
Let's consider a Biblical perspective on this, but I will keep the topic entirely on the science of the first tow issues as a foundational platform. Where does HydroGenesis start for the star? Genesis starts with the four fundamentals of our reality.
WARNING: Because of the nature of symbolism and linguistics, I must sound a bit wacky when I outline my next few points. There is no way around this as the mystery of our Genesis is locked inside the form, not on the surface. All mysteries in our past literature locks truth in symbol to keep it from those who would abuse it. To unlock it, we need to look at the abstract and not the concrete. Keep this in mind.
Genesis 1 1.3
In the Beginning (TIME)...
God created the Heavens (SPACE)
and the Earth (Matter)
Fiat Lux! Let there be Energy (Light / Understanding)
Hydrogen has one proton (+) and one electron (-) in a balanced state of equilibrium. This comprised the early universe (75%), along with Helium (23%). Personified in Genesis, this is polarity, or good and evil. Why does this matter? There is no neutral in hydrogen. Helium has 2 protons, 2 neutrons and 2 electrons. To understand why this is significant, we need to keep going on the periodic table, then step back and engage Genesis 1-3 all the way to Revelation 13 to get the answer to what wisdom is telling us.
As a side note, consider the meaning behind the neutral Christ in the middle of two thieves. The negative was lost and the positive stayed with the neutral to paradise. Symbolism is engaged at every level in the Bible so we can understand from beginning to end. It's a code with its own key. The locks open over time.
The numbers are protons, neutrons and electrons.
1,0,1 - Hydrogen (Star Genesis)
2.2.2 Helium
6.6.6 Carbon (Mark of Mankind)
7.7.7 Nitrogen - God's mark in the Bible
8.8.8 Oxygen - Jesus in Greek Gematria
BREATH OF GOD
9.9.9 Fluorine - (Side note: Inversion of Carbon. Enriches uranium. Fluoride in water and toothpaste to calcify the pineal gland. Mixed with Carbon makes Fluorocarbon)
Symbolically, Genesis and Science both tell the story of mankind. Man is Carbon and our fruit of knowledge is based on the manipulation of Carbon. Our technology is the fruit of our knowledge. It is also the mark of the beast of our selfishness. Ultimately, the fire comes from the Fluorine. Water puts out fire as you will see below.
The Breath of God (Nitrogen and Oxygen) is the cycle that produces it from plants, sunlight and other processes in nature. Each of the elements are pictured in Genesis, but these are the primary markers we need to tell the rest of the story. Mankind fell because he took the perfect fruit that gives back to nature and manipulated it. We inherited a rain forest and will leave it a field of burning weeds. Water cleanses the temple (Flood), but fire ends the work. An ark will be built. Again, all symbolism for what it represents when we cross the wilderness of the heavens to a new Earth.
THIS IS THE POINT! We were told to subdue the Earth before getting the next. One is a training ground and Two is the real deal after growing up as sentient beings. We accomplished this goal, although not as well as we could have. Our fruit kills our breath. Luckily, we have the word to help overcome this problem. Water is the key and word is spoken with breath. If we use both, we overcome the beast inside. Symbolism is obvious on both sides of science and revelation.
Let's ask some questions. After reading my muse, can we engage a context that is highly improbable to be accidental? What's more, is there evidence from scripture that we are destined to rise above this choice that is killing us? What is the main problem?
2 Timothy 3
3 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God" 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.
Why in the world would I quote this? Think through the context of why there is a Creator? What is his goal? If there is a conscious effort to raise us to new life (Evolve), then surly there is a connecting point to our current situation in world events. There is. Mark THIS! God gives us what we need and it cannot be denied without denial of what is most evident (Our primary axiom). Ignoring truth is called ignorANCE. We must deny ignorance for truth that is evident. Pride is a hurdle as well as selfishness. It's evident if you examine human nature.
How many identifiers of selfishness are there above? 18 (6+6+6). What is the beast? It's us. Our selfish nature is the thing that MUST be overcome. God's purpose in giving us a place to learn is so we can be refined. What is our goal? Sentient life above that of a child. When we are no longer a child of God, we are more. Not until.
The Kingdom in the Heavens.
Deuteronomy 4
15 You saw no form of any kind the day the Lord spoke to you at Horeb out of the fire. Therefore watch yourselves very carefully, 16 so that you do not become corrupt and make for yourselves an idol, an image of any shape, whether formed like a man or a woman, 17 or like any animal on earth or any bird that flies in the air, 18 or like any creature that moves along the ground or any fish in the waters below. 19 And when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon and the stars"all the heavenly array"do not be enticed into bowing down to them and worshiping things the Lord your God has apportioned to all the nations under heaven. 20 But as for you, the Lord took you and brought you out of the iron-smelting furnace, out of Egypt, to be the people of his inheritance, as you now are.
Don't get the idea that I am witnessing here. Nay, nay. I am merely showing you the science behind God's plan for this planet if it exists. If it does, it should be the MOST evident axiom we possess. If not, you can deny it with a higher axiom and take the high ground from me. God appears to mankind with NO visible image. Why? So we would not make our own graven images to Him. Instead, this was our example. Don't use the Earth to worship your own idols. Do a quick survey of the verses from v. 15-18. How many technologies can you name? Did God leave us with a trail of scientific evidence? Yes!
Now, what does v. 20 call Earth? A refinery. What is refined? Egypt is a picture of heaven and Earth is the refinery of what we inherit. What do we inherit?
Disclosure happened 2000 years ago.
Ephesians 3
14 For this reason I kneel before the Father, 15 from whom every family[a] in heaven and on earth derives its name.
Yes. There is life on Earth and there are families in the heavens. When the Bible uses the word heaven, it is always plural and refers to the sky / horizon / infinity / eternity. We will get something when we are done here. What will we get? What do you expect might be across the waters of the Jordan in the promised land? Cross the wilderness of the heavens and arrive at a new Earth. What will be there with the families of God?
Dueteronomy 4 - The calling from Egypt (Earth I)
10 When the Lord your God brings you into the land he swore to your fathers, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, to give you"a land with large, flourishing cities you did not build, 11 houses filled with all kinds of good things you did not provide, wells you did not dig, and vineyards and olive groves you did not plant"then when you eat and are satisfied, 12 be careful that you do not forget the Lord, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
Light - Particle, Wave and Consciousness (Trinity)
According to science, light quanta plays the leading role in this play called life. For collapsing wave function to occur, matter must be observed, but light must feed the process. This is true because of something recently found in our day and age. According to Leonard Susskind of Stanford University, our universe is made of energy and ALL energy is information. This matters for a very good reason. Search this on youtube: "Susskind hologram."
Is an acorn the oak tree or is the oak tree the acorn? Neither. Both are the essence of the information that render them to form from nothing to something. What does this relate to life as we know it in the light? Simple. Science says that light is particle and wave. What are they missing? SPIRIT! Spirit is consciousness. The trinity must include Spirit or we deny the very thing that gives us life.
What is God? He calls Himself the great I AM. What is I AM? Spirit. What is Spirit? Consciousness. What is Light? Particle (Father), Wave (Son) and Spirit (Consciousness). Why is the Son the Wave? Wave is the governing factor of consciousness and quantum mechanics. Light is the resource.
John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.
Genesis 1 - Light, Time, Space, Matter. Before light came Time, Space and Matter. Fiat Lux! Let there be illumination to your mind.
Where did this information and Wave (Son of God) come from?
Hebrews 11
3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at Gods command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
Where did Wave / Word / Son come from?
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
The invisible quantum. The God particle is hidden for a reason.
Derac Relativistic Quantum Wave Equation
According to the Derac equation, our universe is parallel to another. Our matter is anti-matter in collision with each other. The projection point between renders our image. What is a hologram? An image.
The Hologram
Genesis 1
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
We are both INSIDE the image God created (Hologram) and we ARE the image of the trinity. What is that image?
Father (Particle)
Son (Wave / Word)
Spirit (Consciousness)
Are you a walking image of energy and matter? Yes, then you are particle and wave combined. Are you conscious? Yes, then you are a conscious image. You have I AM with your collapsed wave function. As the Bible states, you are all three parts of the trinity as an image of God Himself, inside that image he created of Time, Space, Matter and Energy (Light).
The tree of life is DNA. That's the simplest to deduce.
Baptism
There is an ageless understanding that pervades all religion. It's the concept know as involution and evolution. Here is a WIKIPEDIA quote:
Did Jesus call himself the life? Reread that quote again. Notice life in the middle.Sat, Chit-Tapas, and Delight/Ananda are the three aspects of Satchitananda, and are mentioned in terms of Involution . Spirit or consciousness manifests as these three, and then as the intermediate link of Supermind, which is transitional between the higher and lower (matter, life, and mind) nature.[2]
The reason for involution is Delight - the Delight of Being (the Spirit or Absolute) moving to Delight of Becoming (temporal existence, the cosmos). Being throws itself forward into a multiplicity of forms, becoming lost in the inconscience of matter,[3] and then through evolution it partakes in the Delight of rediscovering the Spirit which had been hidden in the interim.
Evolution is thus the movement forward by which the created universe evolves from its initial state of inconscience (i.e. as matter), evolves animated life forms and mental beings (i.e. humans), and continues to evolve spiritual properties, and in that process rediscovers its Source.
From Greek and Latin, we have these words in root morphology:
Amni - River of Life
Amnio - Bowl that catches the blood of the lamb of sacrifice
Amnion - Sack covering the womb
Amniotic Fluid - Water of the womb
Amnesia - Condition in the water (Remembering)
Amnesty - Forgiveness in a foreign land
The Shepherd of Evolution
The Shepherd pulls the wool over your eyes (Amnesia). He then sheers your wool (Sin Nature). After this, he washes it white as snow and gives it back to you as a new Robe (Body) and Crown (Mind). Amnesty is then granted to new pastures for another cycle. You must be born again. Water baptism is involution into the material world until salvation comes from the process. Again, this is science and not merely legends around the campfire. Science is the proof of the evidence.
What is your mind doing at this point? You can easily connect the biblical version of Baptism to the early notions of the three properties of life, both ancient and current. In other words, we are baptized into the water to rise to new life. Involution is our baptism and evolution is our rising. All of it is in an image. All of it verified by science to be completely true and verifiable to be accurate with proofs and empirical evidence that cannot be denied as most probable.
What do you see when you look in a mirror? Your image. Is the image you are are you the one reflecting the light? What does this suggest about your vision of yourself in this image? Just like the movie the Matrix, you are not here.
Do you want the Matrix (Womb) red or blue pill? No matter, I'll give you the one you need.
Matthew 18
10 See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that their angels in heaven always see the face of my Father in heaven.
I see myself as most Christians see themselves by the light of religion--A Child of God. I also see the perfect image of this in science. What image do you see by this light I reflect? The same sun that melts wax also hardens clay. What softens clay? Water. What did Jesus say he possessed? Living water. Again, science reveals that such a thing must exist. Life demonstrates the process and the highest axiom has always been the one we have failed to fully comprehend as a symbolic reflection.
1 Corinthians 13
11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.
13 And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
I hope I have made the mirror slightly less dim.
