Zion is Makkah [ debate ]

steps · Post by **steps** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:39 pm

who wants to debate ?

RonE · Post by **RonE** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:11 pm

What's your subject?

steps · Post by **steps** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:16 pm

the subject is about place of Zion .
where is Zion ?

RonE · Post by **RonE** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:15 pm

Thanks, I've no interest in this question.

steps · Post by **steps** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 2:40 pm

Before we start speaking about the prophecy of Zion , this sign will be a clear proof against the atheists whom thinking there is no God .

Who told prophet Moses about the message of Jesus and the message of Mohammad ?

PART 1
In Due 33 : [2 And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them. ]

The prophecy speaks about 3 actions for the lord from 3 different places .

1- From Sinia , he came . it is pointing to the message of prophet Moses peace be upon him .

2-From Seir , he rose , it is pointing to the message of prophet Jesus peace be upon him.
3- And finally , from the mount of Paran , he shined , it is the clearest appearance situation of the Lord . it is pointing to the Last message of prophet Mohammad peace be upon him .

where is mount of Paran?

According to biblehub webstie .

http://biblehub.com/text/deuteronomy/33-2.htm

word number [ 6290]
NAS exhaustive concordance : Paran, a place in Sina
Strong's exhaustive concordance: Paran, a desert of Arabia

http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/6290.htm

prophet Ishmael and his sons lived in Mount of Paran :

21Genesis [19 And God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water; and she went, and filled the bottle with water, and gave the lad drink. 20 And God was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer. 21 And he dwelt in the wilderness of Paran: and his mother took him a wife out of the land of Egypt.]

If We get back to the scripture [Due 33 ] we will find specialties about the message of Paran

1- With Lord ten thousands of saints . [ the companions of prophet Mohammad ], when they opened Makah they were ten thousands .

2-From his right hand went a fiery law for them . [ the Quranic Laws, and the teachings of prophet Mohammad ]

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jamesjah · Post by **jamesjah** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:39 pm

Earthly mount Zion pictured the reality, Heavenly mount Zion that would bring the world back under the rule of the Almighty Jehovah by means of his sonn

Hebrews 12:22, 23
But you have approached a Mount Zion and a city of [the] living God, heavenly Jerusalem, and myriads of angels, in general assembly, . . .

Revelation 14:1
I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.

Dantalion · Post by **Dantalion** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:52 pm

It all began with the forging of the Great Rings. Three were given to the Elves; immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings. Seven, to the Dwarf Lords, great miners and craftsmen of the mountain halls. And nine, nine rings were gifted to the race of Men, who above all else desire power. For within these rings was bound the strength and the will to govern over each race. But they were all of them deceived, for another ring was made. In the land of Mordor, in the fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Sauron forged in secret, a master ring, to control all others. And into this ring he poured all his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life.

steps · Post by **steps** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:26 pm

jamesjah wrote: Earthly mount Zion pictured the reality, Heavenly mount Zion that would bring the world back under the rule of the Almighty Jehovah by means of his sonn

Hebrews 12:22, 23
But you have approached a Mount Zion and a city of [the] living God, heavenly Jerusalem, and myriads of angels, in general assembly, . . .

Revelation 14:1
I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.

It is not by wishes nor hopes â€¦and it is not a metaphorical prophecy , I am analyzing the bible according to the events and places .
3 messages [ with the same belief the same commandments ], 3 different places

the City of Madiana is the city of prophet Mohammad peace be upon him

steps · Post by **steps** » Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:33 pm

In [3] Habakkuk :[ 3 God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise. 4 And his brightness was as the light; he had horns coming out of his hand: and there was the hiding of his power.]

Also the prophecy speaks about the shining and brightness from the mount of Paran . and if we complete reading the chapter , we will find the power and the glory of the message that came from Paran

Allahakbar · Post by **Allahakbar** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:56 am

steps wrote: Who told prophet Moses about the message of Jesus and the message of Mohammad ?
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