Zion is Makkah [ debate ]

steps · Post by **steps** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:39 pm

who wants to debate ?

steps · Post by **steps** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:48 pm

Allahakbar wrote:
steps wrote: Who told prophet Moses about the message of Jesus and the message of Mohammad ?
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Harry Potter or Peter Pan or Roger Rabbit or Popeye................
It's Superman, faster than a tall building, able to leap speeding bullets in a single bound........look up in the sky

I admit no one can challenge you in the silly comments .You are the best at this section , but you are empty when it comes to serious subjects

Post by **otseng** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 10:00 am

steps wrote: I admit no one can challenge you in the silly comments .You are the best at this section , but you are empty when it comes to serious subjects

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alwayson · Post by **alwayson** » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:13 am

According to the best Islamic authorities, entire chapters of the Koran were lost, changed, modified etc.

Sahih al-Muslim 2286 mentions 2 Koran chapters that were forgotten by the people. Sahih al-Bukhari 6.61.527 says Ubayy, one of the best reciters and 4 teachers, refused to follow the Zayd Ibn Thabit's Koran (today's Koran) since it was not the same as his version.

In Jami At-Tirmidhi 3104, Abdullah bin Mas'ud (the best of the 4 teachers) tells people to hide their version of the Koran and not follow Zayd Ibn Thabit Koran. Ibn Sa'd, Kitab al-Tabaqat al-Kabir also trashes today's Koran.

I can go on and on.

In Koran 5:47 Allah commands Christians to judge by the Gospel. Koran 5:68 commands Jews and Christians to follow the Torah and Gospel.

Koran 3:3 says Torah and Gospel are from Allah. Koran 6:114-115 and 18:27 says that no one can change Allah's word.

The Koran constantly affirms the integrity of scriptures bayna yadayehe "between your hands", meaning the Jewish and Christian scriptures were not corrupted at the time.

steps · Post by **steps** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:10 pm

[Replying to post 13 by alwayson]

I can answer your comment , but can you write that you are using the liars websites . after my answer .

Allahakbar · Post by **Allahakbar** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:47 pm

steps wrote: [Replying to post 13 by alwayson]

I can answer your comment , but can you write that you are using the liars websites . after my answer .

Everybody knows that zion are the black jelly beans.

alwayson · Post by **alwayson** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:57 pm

steps wrote: I can answer your comment , but can you write that you are using the liars websites . after my answer .

It is refreshing to hear that the Koran and Hadith lies.

micatala · Post by **micatala** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:08 pm

steps wrote: [Replying to post 13 by alwayson]

I can answer your comment , but can you write that you are using the liars websites . after my answer .

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micatala · Post by **micatala** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:11 pm

alwayson wrote:
steps wrote: I can answer your comment , but can you write that you are using the liars websites . after my answer .
It is refreshing to hear that the Koran and Hadith lies.

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steps · Post by **steps** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:35 pm

alwayson wrote:
steps wrote: I can answer your comment , but can you write that you are using the liars websites . after my answer .
It is refreshing to hear that the Koran and Hadith lies.

then I will never answer your comments of you add the longest list about Islam .

Danmark · Post by **Danmark** » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:18 pm

steps wrote: Hebrews 12:22, 23
But you have approached a Mount Zion and a city of [the] living God, heavenly Jerusalem, and myriads of angels, in general assembly, . . .

Revelation 14:1
I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.
It is not by wishes nor hopes â€¦and it is not a metaphorical prophecy , I am analyzing the bible according to the events and places .
3 messages [ with the same belief the same commandments ], 3 different places

the City of Madiana is the city of prophet Mohammad peace be upon him

Zion is in Utah in the United States:

... and much prettier than anything Mohammad ever saw.