Misconceptions and Borrowed Concepts

Burninglight · Post by **Burninglight** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:12 pm

Did Allah and Muhammad understand the concept of the Christianity trinity and did Islam borrow the concept of heaven and hell from Christianity?

Burninglight · Post by **Burninglight** » Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:59 pm

10CC · Post by **10CC** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:03 am

[Replying to post 21 by Burninglight]

I spent 30yrs as a catholic.
Catholics don't worship Mary. Put that in the bank.

keithprosser3 · Post by **keithprosser3** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:47 am

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Burninglight · Post by **Burninglight** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:30 pm

10CC wrote: [Replying to post 21 by Burninglight]

I spent 30yrs as a catholic.
Catholics don't worship Mary. Put that in the bank.

Saying the hail Mary is a form of worship; praying to Mary to put in a good word to God or Jesus for you is a form of idolatry; considering Mary the mother of God when God is her creator is a form of worship. Muhammad felt that way about Catholicism and Biblical Christians do as well. You can put that in the bank.
That doesn't mean that Catholics won't go to heaven because they believe and trust Jesus for their salvation, but putting faith in Mary and saints will disappoint you.

Can you explain what your signature means?

10CC · Post by **10CC** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 12:53 am

Burninglight wrote:
10CC wrote: [Replying to post 21 by Burninglight]

I spent 30yrs as a catholic.
Catholics don't worship Mary. Put that in the bank.
Saying the hail Mary is a form of worship; praying to Mary to put in a good word to God or Jesus for you is a form of idolatry; considering Mary the mother of God when God is her creator is a form of worship. Muhammad felt that way about Catholicism and Biblical Christians do as well. You can put that in the bank.
That doesn't mean that Catholics won't go to heaven because they believe and trust Jesus for their salvation, but putting faith in Mary and saints will disappoint you.

Can you explain what your signature means?

And biblical christians worship the bible. You see you don't get to tell others what it is they are worshiping unless others have reciprocal rights to tell you what you worship. See how that works?
Oh it won't disappoint me.
It's a line from a song.

Burninglight · Post by **Burninglight** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:09 pm

10CC wrote:
Burninglight wrote:
10CC wrote: [Replying to post 21 by Burninglight]

I spent 30yrs as a catholic.
Catholics don't worship Mary. Put that in the bank.
Saying the hail Mary is a form of worship; praying to Mary to put in a good word to God or Jesus for you is a form of idolatry; considering Mary the mother of God when God is her creator is a form of worship. Muhammad felt that way about Catholicism and Biblical Christians do as well. You can put that in the bank.
That doesn't mean that Catholics won't go to heaven because they believe and trust Jesus for their salvation, but putting faith in Mary and saints will disappoint you.

Can you explain what your signature means?
And biblical christians worship the bible. You see you don't get to tell others what it is they are worshiping unless others have reciprocal rights to tell you what you worship. See how that works?
Oh it won't disappoint me.
It's a line from a song.

Biblical Christianity is not the worship of the Bible, but it is the worship of the word of God who is Jesus. He is worthy of worship. No saints are worth of worship and there is nothing Scriptural that states we should pray to saints either and yes that includes Mary. If you pray to saints, you will be disappointed. Finally, being Catholic for 30 years has nothing to do with what is Scriptural or not

10CC · Post by **10CC** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:19 am

Burninglight wrote:
10CC wrote:
Burninglight wrote:
10CC wrote: [Replying to post 21 by Burninglight]

I spent 30yrs as a catholic.
Catholics don't worship Mary. Put that in the bank.
Saying the hail Mary is a form of worship; praying to Mary to put in a good word to God or Jesus for you is a form of idolatry; considering Mary the mother of God when God is her creator is a form of worship. Muhammad felt that way about Catholicism and Biblical Christians do as well. You can put that in the bank.
That doesn't mean that Catholics won't go to heaven because they believe and trust Jesus for their salvation, but putting faith in Mary and saints will disappoint you.

Can you explain what your signature means?
And biblical christians worship the bible. You see you don't get to tell others what it is they are worshiping unless others have reciprocal rights to tell you what you worship. See how that works?
Oh it won't disappoint me.
It's a line from a song.
Biblical Christianity is not the worship of the Bible, but it is the worship of the word of God who is Jesus. He is worthy of worship. No saints are worth of worship and there is nothing Scriptural that states we should pray to saints either and yes that includes Mary. If you pray to saints, you will be disappointed. Finally, being Catholic for 30 years has nothing to do with what is Scriptural or not

Never said it was but you had the gall to tell me what I believed. So I'm telling you that biblical christians worship the bible, live with it.

Burninglight · Post by **Burninglight** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:33 pm

10CC wrote:
Burninglight wrote:
10CC wrote:
Burninglight wrote:
10CC wrote: [Replying to post 21 by Burninglight]

I spent 30yrs as a catholic.
Catholics don't worship Mary. Put that in the bank.
Saying the hail Mary is a form of worship; praying to Mary to put in a good word to God or Jesus for you is a form of idolatry; considering Mary the mother of God when God is her creator is a form of worship. Muhammad felt that way about Catholicism and Biblical Christians do as well. You can put that in the bank.
That doesn't mean that Catholics won't go to heaven because they believe and trust Jesus for their salvation, but putting faith in Mary and saints will disappoint you.

Can you explain what your signature means?
And biblical christians worship the bible. You see you don't get to tell others what it is they are worshiping unless others have reciprocal rights to tell you what you worship. See how that works?
Oh it won't disappoint me.
It's a line from a song.
Biblical Christianity is not the worship of the Bible, but it is the worship of the word of God who is Jesus. He is worthy of worship. No saints are worth of worship and there is nothing Scriptural that states we should pray to saints either and yes that includes Mary. If you pray to saints, you will be disappointed. Finally, being Catholic for 30 years has nothing to do with what is Scriptural or not
Never said it was but you had the gall to tell me what I believed. So I'm telling you that biblical christians worship the bible, live with it.

You never said it was; then why bring it up? I was Catholic for about as long as you. I know what Catholics believe.
I haven't told you what you believe; you are telling me what you believe. You said Catholics don't worship Mary. Perhaps you should give me your definition of worship, and while you are at it, show Scriptural justification for praying to Mary or saints asking them to seek God's favor as if she or they were departed intercessors for living believers on earth. Jesus is the only Biblical intercessor I know of and trust in. I don't need departed saints. Why do you?

10CC · Post by **10CC** » Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:18 am

Burninglight wrote:
10CC wrote:
Burninglight wrote:
10CC wrote:
Burninglight wrote:
10CC wrote: [Replying to post 21 by Burninglight]

I spent 30yrs as a catholic.
Catholics don't worship Mary. Put that in the bank.
Saying the hail Mary is a form of worship; praying to Mary to put in a good word to God or Jesus for you is a form of idolatry; considering Mary the mother of God when God is her creator is a form of worship. Muhammad felt that way about Catholicism and Biblical Christians do as well. You can put that in the bank.
That doesn't mean that Catholics won't go to heaven because they believe and trust Jesus for their salvation, but putting faith in Mary and saints will disappoint you.

Can you explain what your signature means?
And biblical christians worship the bible. You see you don't get to tell others what it is they are worshiping unless others have reciprocal rights to tell you what you worship. See how that works?
Oh it won't disappoint me.
It's a line from a song.
Biblical Christianity is not the worship of the Bible, but it is the worship of the word of God who is Jesus. He is worthy of worship. No saints are worth of worship and there is nothing Scriptural that states we should pray to saints either and yes that includes Mary. If you pray to saints, you will be disappointed. Finally, being Catholic for 30 years has nothing to do with what is Scriptural or not
Never said it was but you had the gall to tell me what I believed. So I'm telling you that biblical christians worship the bible, live with it.
You never said it was; then why bring it up? I was Catholic for about as long as you. I know what Catholics believe.
I haven't told you what you believe; you are telling me what you believe. You said Catholics don't worship Mary. Perhaps you should give me your definition of worship, and while you are at it, show Scriptural justification for praying to Mary or saints asking them to seek God's favor as if she or they were departed intercessors for living believers on earth. Jesus is the only Biblical intercessor I know of and trust in. I don't need departed saints. Why do you?

Can't you read what is written? You seem to see things that are not there on your screen. Go back and read what I have written and then make a response to that.

Burninglight · Post by **Burninglight** » Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:23 am

Burninglight wrote:
10CC wrote:
Burninglight wrote:
10CC wrote: [Replying to post 21 by Burninglight]

I spent 30yrs as a catholic.
Catholics don't worship Mary. Put that in the bank.
Saying the hail Mary is a form of worship; praying to Mary to put in a good word to God or Jesus for you is a form of idolatry; considering Mary the mother of God when God is her creator is a form of worship. Muhammad felt that way about Catholicism and Biblical Christians do as well. You can put that in the bank.
That doesn't mean that Catholics won't go to heaven because they believe and trust Jesus for their salvation, but putting faith in Mary and saints will disappoint you.

Can you explain what your signature means?
And biblical christians worship the bible. You see you don't get to tell others what it is they are worshiping unless others have reciprocal rights to tell you what you worship. See how that works?
Oh it won't disappoint me.
It's a line from a song.
Biblical Christianity is not the worship of the Bible, but it is the worship of the word of God who is Jesus. He is worthy of worship. No saints are worth of worship and there is nothing Scriptural that states we should pray to saints either and yes that includes Mary. If you pray to saints, you will be disappointed. Finally, being Catholic for 30 years has nothing to do with what is Scriptural or not

You are not saying what it is you think I am seeing that is not there. Look, let's nip this thing.
I am not telling you what you believe; I am telling you simply that there is no Scriptural justification for praying to Mary as if she were an intercessor of some sought. It makes no never mind if you consider it worship or not. If a Muslim accuses Catholics of idolatry for praying to departed saints, they don't have a leg to stand on. You go back and read and answer my questions or change the topic.
you are loved