10CC wrote:
So names are meaningless but employing your GODLY powers YOU have determined that the name catholic means apostasy, don't see any contradiction there?
Yes the catholic church has always been a corrupt institution and one that never has followed the prescription of new testament instruction. Maybe this will bring you up to date.........
The Inquisition was a group of institutions within the judicial system of the Roman Catholic Church whose aim was to combat heresy. It started in 12th-century France to combat the spread of religious sectarianism, in particular the Cathars and the Waldensians. This Medieval Inquisition persisted into the 14th century, from the 1250s associated with the Dominican Order. In the early 14th century, two other movements attracted the attention of the Inquisition, the Knights Templar and the Beguines.
At the end of the Middle Ages, the concept and scope of the Inquisition was significantly expanded, now in the historical context of the turmoils of the Protestant Reformation and the Catholic Counter-Reformation. Its geographic scope was expanded to other European countries,[1] as well as throughout the Spanish and Portuguese empires in the Americas, Asia and Africa.[2] Its focus now came to include the persecution of sorcery (an aspect almost entirely absent from the Medieval Inquisition), making it one of the agents in the Early Modern witch-hunts.
The institution persisted after the end of the witch-trial period in the 18th century, but was abolished outside of the Papal States after the Napoleonic wars. The institution survives as part of the Roman Curia, but it was renamed to Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office in 1904.
Historical background
Before 1100, the Catholic Church had already suppressed what they believed to be heresy, usually through a system of ecclesiastical proscription or imprisonment, but without using torture[1] and seldom resorting to executions.[8][9] Such punishments had a number of ecclesiastical opponents, although some countries punished heresy with the death penalty.[10] [11]
In the 12th century, to counter the spread of Catharism, prosecution of heretics became more frequent. The Church charged councils composed of bishops and archbishops with establishing inquisitions (see Episcopal Inquisition). The first Inquisition was temporarily established in Languedoc (south of France) in 1184. In 1229 it was permanently established. It was centered under the Dominicans[12] in Rome and later at Carcassonne in Languedoc.
Medieval Inquisition
Main articles: Medieval Inquisition and Ad extirpanda
Historians use the term "Medieval Inquisition" to describe the various inquisitions that started around 1184, including the Episcopal Inquisition (1184"1230s) and later the Papal Inquisition (1230s). These inquisitions responded to large popular movements throughout Europe considered apostate or heretical to Christianity, in particular the Cathars in southern France and the Waldensians in both southern France and northern Italy. Other Inquisitions followed after these first inquisition movements. Legal basis for some inquisitorial activity came from Pope Innocent IV's papal bull Ad extirpanda of 1252, which explicitly authorized (and defined the appropriate circumstances for) the use of torture by the Inquisition for eliciting confessions from heretics.[13] By 1256 inquisitors were given absolution if they used instruments of torture.[14]
In the 13th century, Pope Gregory IX (reigned 1227"1241) assigned the duty of carrying out inquisitions to the Dominican Order. They used inquisitorial procedures, a legal practice common at that time. They judged heresy alone, using the local authorities to establish a tribunal and to prosecute heretics. After 1200, a Grand Inquisitor headed each Inquisition. Grand Inquisitions persisted until the mid 19th century.[15]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition
10CC wrote:
BTW there are many, many "fundamentalists" who preach hate, I'm not sure why you would isolate the Westboro BAPTIST Church for condemnation.
Show me where the new testament promotes hate. If you can't then these churches are in violation of scripture and we are commanded to ex communicate them.....
Romans 16: 17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
2nd Thes 3:14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed.
Now if you have an issue with any church you need to state what it is and then you need to find scripture that supports the behavior. If you cannot then the church is rogue. As for the WBC you need to state your issue with them and show me where scripture supports the behavior. If you can't then they are nothing but imposters flying under a foreign flag.
10CC wrote:
Do you have some evidence to support the claim of fundamentalists being around since the birth of christianity? And still no mention of death being the wages of sin and Jesus dying.
Fundamentalism encompasses 5 basic beliefs
1) Innerancy of the bible
2)The virgin birth
3) The doctrine of atonement through a substitutionary sacrifice.
4) Literal truth of the bible.
5) The resurrection of Christ
Those beliefs have been here from the beginning.
