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I feel like we've been beating around the bush for... 6000 years!

Can you please either provide some evidence for your supernatural beliefs, or admit that you have no evidence?

If you believe there once was a talking donkey (Numbers 22) could you please provide evidence?

If you believe there once was a zombie invasion in Jerusalem (Mat 27) could you please provide evidence?

If you believe in the flying horse (Islam) could you please provide evidence?

Walking on water, virgin births, radioactive spiders who give you superpowers, turning water into wine, turning iron into gold, demons, goblins, ghosts, hobbits, elves, angels, unicorns and Santa.

Can you PLEASE provide evidence?

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Sonofason wrote:
Goat wrote:
Sonofason wrote:
Danmark wrote:
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That is amazing. Hmmph, it just never occured to me that a central telomere in human chromosome 2 was even possible. It's just amazing. But it's certainly not evidence of evolution. At least, I don't consider it evidence of evolution. You'll have to do better than that. I don't accept an observation of telomeres in human chromosomes as evidence of anything. Nope, it seems that if I'm going to believe in evolution, I'm going to have to do it on faith, like you.
You reveal the quality of your analysis and openness to truth and reality with every post. All you assert is your unsupported opinion. No, perhaps not even that. All we have is what you claim to be your mere assertions. There is no way to tell if you even believe the nonsense you litter the forum with.

What makes more sense is that you are an atheist who is bent on discrediting serious Christians. Keep it coming. :)
I had thought that with my persistence that you would at least try to put forth a little evidence that evolution is true, but as I had first surmised, you have no evidence to share that evolution is true. Your belief in evolution is clearly based in a faith in science. Admit it, you have never seen any evidence of evolution. Come on, it's easy. You're half way there.

Considering I have a TON of links from universities discussing the evidence of evolution, I think this claim is sort of disingenuous.
Well, I was not discussing the links and supposed evidences for evolution that you are now claiming to have access to. I was speaking with Danmark who provided links to discussions of evolution, wherein I have found no evidence that evolution is true. Perhaps you might share some of the evidence for evolution that you have, and I will determine whether or not you have any evidence that evolution is true. But to suggest that you have "a ton" of links from universities, as if links had weight, means nothing to me. Provide evidence for evolution. Links from universities don't have weight in this discussion. Evidence for evolution does.
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1. The universal genetic code. All cells on Earth, from our white blood cells, to simple bacteria, to cells in the leaves of trees, are capable of reading any piece of DNA from any life form on Earth. This is very strong evidence for a common ancestor from which all life descended.

2. The fossil record. The fossil record shows that the simplest fossils will be found in the oldest rocks, and it can also show a smooth and gradual transition from one form of life to another.

3. Genetic commonalities. Human beings have approximately 96% of genes in common with chimpanzees, about 90% of genes in common with cats (source), 80% with cows (source), 75% with mice (source), and so on. This does not prove that we evolved from chimpanzees or cats, though, only that we shared a common ancestor in the past. And the amount of difference between our genomes corresponds to how long ago our genetic lines diverged.

4. Common traits in embryos. Humans, dogs, snakes, fish, monkeys, eels (and many more life forms) are all considered "chordates" because we belong to the phylum Chordata. One of the features of this phylum is that, as embryos, all these life forms have gill slits, tails, and specific anatomical structures involving the spine. For humans (and other non-fish) the gill slits reform into the bones of the ear and jaw at a later stage in development. But, initially, all chordate embryos strongly resemble each other.

In fact, pig embryos are often dissected in biology classes because of how similar they look to human embryos. These common characteristics could only be possible if all members of the phylum Chordata descended from a common ancestor.

5. Bacterial resistance to antibiotics. Bacteria colonies can only build up a resistance to antibiotics through evolution. It is important to note that in every colony of bacteria, there are a tiny few individuals which are naturally resistant to certain antibiotics. This is because of the random nature of mutations.

When an antibiotic is applied, the initial inoculation will kill most bacteria, leaving behind only those few cells which happen to have the mutations necessary to resist the antibiotics. In subsequent generations, the resistant bacteria reproduce, forming a new colony where every member is resistant to the antibiotic. This is natural selection in action. The antibiotic is "selecting" for organisms which are resistant, and killing any that are not.

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Sonofason wrote: What do you do with all the prophesies of the Bible? Do you not recognize that many have already come true?
This is great! You believe a prophecy came true! This is EVIDENCE of the supernatural, AND it's an opportunity to make $100.

All you have to do is present the single most convincing prophecy.

In fact, why don't you present it on this board here

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10CC wrote:
Sonofason wrote:
Goat wrote:
Sonofason wrote:
Danmark wrote:
Sonofason wrote:
That is amazing. Hmmph, it just never occured to me that a central telomere in human chromosome 2 was even possible. It's just amazing. But it's certainly not evidence of evolution. At least, I don't consider it evidence of evolution. You'll have to do better than that. I don't accept an observation of telomeres in human chromosomes as evidence of anything. Nope, it seems that if I'm going to believe in evolution, I'm going to have to do it on faith, like you.
You reveal the quality of your analysis and openness to truth and reality with every post. All you assert is your unsupported opinion. No, perhaps not even that. All we have is what you claim to be your mere assertions. There is no way to tell if you even believe the nonsense you litter the forum with.

What makes more sense is that you are an atheist who is bent on discrediting serious Christians. Keep it coming. :)
I had thought that with my persistence that you would at least try to put forth a little evidence that evolution is true, but as I had first surmised, you have no evidence to share that evolution is true. Your belief in evolution is clearly based in a faith in science. Admit it, you have never seen any evidence of evolution. Come on, it's easy. You're half way there.

Considering I have a TON of links from universities discussing the evidence of evolution, I think this claim is sort of disingenuous.
Well, I was not discussing the links and supposed evidences for evolution that you are now claiming to have access to. I was speaking with Danmark who provided links to discussions of evolution, wherein I have found no evidence that evolution is true. Perhaps you might share some of the evidence for evolution that you have, and I will determine whether or not you have any evidence that evolution is true. But to suggest that you have "a ton" of links from universities, as if links had weight, means nothing to me. Provide evidence for evolution. Links from universities don't have weight in this discussion. Evidence for evolution does.
Does your mail server accept fossils and up to what size does it accept? TIA
How exactly does a fossil show that evolution is true?

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Sonofason wrote:
10CC wrote:
Sonofason wrote:
Goat wrote:
Sonofason wrote:
Danmark wrote:
Sonofason wrote:
That is amazing. Hmmph, it just never occured to me that a central telomere in human chromosome 2 was even possible. It's just amazing. But it's certainly not evidence of evolution. At least, I don't consider it evidence of evolution. You'll have to do better than that. I don't accept an observation of telomeres in human chromosomes as evidence of anything. Nope, it seems that if I'm going to believe in evolution, I'm going to have to do it on faith, like you.
You reveal the quality of your analysis and openness to truth and reality with every post. All you assert is your unsupported opinion. No, perhaps not even that. All we have is what you claim to be your mere assertions. There is no way to tell if you even believe the nonsense you litter the forum with.

What makes more sense is that you are an atheist who is bent on discrediting serious Christians. Keep it coming. :)
I had thought that with my persistence that you would at least try to put forth a little evidence that evolution is true, but as I had first surmised, you have no evidence to share that evolution is true. Your belief in evolution is clearly based in a faith in science. Admit it, you have never seen any evidence of evolution. Come on, it's easy. You're half way there.

Considering I have a TON of links from universities discussing the evidence of evolution, I think this claim is sort of disingenuous.
Well, I was not discussing the links and supposed evidences for evolution that you are now claiming to have access to. I was speaking with Danmark who provided links to discussions of evolution, wherein I have found no evidence that evolution is true. Perhaps you might share some of the evidence for evolution that you have, and I will determine whether or not you have any evidence that evolution is true. But to suggest that you have "a ton" of links from universities, as if links had weight, means nothing to me. Provide evidence for evolution. Links from universities don't have weight in this discussion. Evidence for evolution does.
Does your mail server accept fossils and up to what size does it accept? TIA
How exactly does a fossil show that evolution is true?
If your mail server accepts them then I can prove to you that evolution is a FACT.
Does it? After all you are requesting EVIDENCE, I am prepared to supply it. The question is are you prepared to examine it?
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Sonofason wrote:
Goat wrote:
Sonofason wrote:
Danmark wrote:
Sonofason wrote:
That is amazing. Hmmph, it just never occured to me that a central telomere in human chromosome 2 was even possible. It's just amazing. But it's certainly not evidence of evolution. At least, I don't consider it evidence of evolution. You'll have to do better than that. I don't accept an observation of telomeres in human chromosomes as evidence of anything. Nope, it seems that if I'm going to believe in evolution, I'm going to have to do it on faith, like you.
You reveal the quality of your analysis and openness to truth and reality with every post. All you assert is your unsupported opinion. No, perhaps not even that. All we have is what you claim to be your mere assertions. There is no way to tell if you even believe the nonsense you litter the forum with.

What makes more sense is that you are an atheist who is bent on discrediting serious Christians. Keep it coming. :)
I had thought that with my persistence that you would at least try to put forth a little evidence that evolution is true, but as I had first surmised, you have no evidence to share that evolution is true. Your belief in evolution is clearly based in a faith in science. Admit it, you have never seen any evidence of evolution. Come on, it's easy. You're half way there.

Considering I have a TON of links from universities discussing the evidence of evolution, I think this claim is sort of disingenuous.
Well, I was not discussing the links and supposed evidences for evolution that you are now claiming to have access to. I was speaking with Danmark who provided links to discussions of evolution, wherein I have found no evidence that evolution is true. Perhaps you might share some of the evidence for evolution that you have, and I will determine whether or not you have any evidence that evolution is true. But to suggest that you have "a ton" of links from universities, as if links had weight, means nothing to me. Provide evidence for evolution. Links from universities don't have weight in this discussion. Evidence for evolution does.
Give me your mailing address. I will send you a fossil in the mail. I could post a photo of it here, but you'd say that photos of fossils are not evidence of evolution.

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[Replying to post 1531 by Sonofason]
Sonofason.

Can you please provide evidence that the earth is a globe?

Thanks

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no evidence no belief wrote: [Replying to post 1531 by Sonofason]
Sonofason.

Can you please provide evidence that the earth is a globe?

Thanks
Subtle

But I like it.

I don't have any hair to answer though, please forgive me. 8-) :?
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no evidence no belief wrote: [Replying to post 1531 by Sonofason]
Sonofason.

Can you please provide evidence that the earth is a globe?

Thanks
Subtle

But I like it.

I don't have any hair to answer though, please forgive me. 8-) :?
My point is that sonofason, has artificially set the bar for what counts as evidence so absurdly high, that he will not able to provide evidence that the earth is a globe.

The evidence for evolution is as strong as the evidence for the earth being a globe, and right about now Sonofason is realizing that the argument that there is no evidence for evolution that probably his pastor told him doesn't stand the test of unbiased scrutiny.

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Sonofason wrote: What do you do with all the prophesies of the Bible? Do you not recognize that many have already come true?
This is great! You believe a prophecy came true! This is EVIDENCE of the supernatural, AND it's an opportunity to make $100.

All you have to do is present the single most convincing prophecy.

In fact, why don't you present it on this board here
"Also, thou son of man, prophesy unto the mountains of Israel, and say, Ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the LORD: Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because the enemy hath said against you, Aha, even the ancient high places are ours in possession: Therefore prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because they have made you desolate, and swallowed you up on every side, that ye might be a possession unto the residue of the heathen, and ye are taken up in the lips of talkers, and are an infamy of the people: Therefore, ye mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord GOD; Thus saith the Lord GOD to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, to the desolate wastes, and to the cities that are forsaken, which became a prey and derision to the residue of the heathen that are round about; Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen, and against all Idumea, which have appointed my land into their possession with the joy of all their heart, with despiteful minds, to cast it out for a prey. Prophesy therefore concerning the land of Israel, and say unto the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I have spoken in my jealousy and in my fury, because ye have borne the shame of the heathen: Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; I have lifted up mine hand, Surely the heathen that are about you, they shall bear their shame. But ye, O mountains of Israel, ye shall shoot forth your branches, and yield your fruit to my people of Israel; for they are at hand to come. For, behold, I am for you, and I will turn unto you, and ye shall be tilled and sown: And I will multiply men upon you, all the house of Israel, even all of it: and the cities shall be inhabited, and the wastes shall be builded: And I will multiply upon you man and beast; and they shall increase and bring fruit: and I will settle you after your old estates, and will do better unto you than at your beginnings: and ye shall know that I am the LORD."
Ezekial 36:1-11)

Israel has indeed been replanted. The nation of Israel has been reborn, out of it's desolation. It happened in 1948.

Just wait until Psalm 83 takes place, when Damascus is lain to waste. This is an event that you will witness in the very near future.

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