Let's cut to the chase. Do you have any evidence?

[no evidence no belief]

I feel like we've been beating around the bush for... 6000 years!

Can you please either provide some evidence for your supernatural beliefs, or admit that you have no evidence?

If you believe there once was a talking donkey (Numbers 22) could you please provide evidence?

If you believe there once was a zombie invasion in Jerusalem (Mat 27) could you please provide evidence?

If you believe in the flying horse (Islam) could you please provide evidence?

Walking on water, virgin births, radioactive spiders who give you superpowers, turning water into wine, turning iron into gold, demons, goblins, ghosts, hobbits, elves, angels, unicorns and Santa.

Can you PLEASE provide evidence?

[Danmark]

[Replying to post 2623 by Sir Hamilton]

You continue to appeal to authority without making a single argument using a scientific explanation. You've been asked to, if you can. Apparently you can not. This conclusion is further buttressed by the fact you've told us you aren't sure if the earth is 6000 or 4,000,000,000 years old, tho' you lean toward the one you think agrees with the Bible. I'll ask again, do you have any science based reason to say the earth is only 6000 years old?

[Sir Hamilton]

[Replying to post 2623 by Sir Hamilton]

You continue to appeal to authority without making a single argument using a scientific explanation. You've been asked to, if you can. Apparently you can not. This conclusion is further buttressed by the fact you've told us you aren't sure if the earth is 6000 or 4,000,000,000 years old, tho' you lean toward the one you think agrees with the Bible. I'll ask again, do you have any science based reason to say the earth is only 6000 years old?

There is plenty of science that shows a young earth. Check out the list that i gave goat and read some of the works of these scientists. What do you want me to do? copy and paste some of their works for you? Open your mind and take the time to study some of their works...maybe you will learn something new. Oh and again where is your evidence?

[Clownboat]

And how is that evidence that "God Created man"?? or 'God created Life", or "God created the universe"?? Show the WHY of that claim. What is the model, how does it get put together, or, are you just begging the question?

That is my evidence. Exsistence is my evidence of a God. That and the fact that God and i talk...but i wouldn't expect you to believe or understand that. Now where is your evidence?

Your evidence is exactly as convincing as if a Muslim is saying it.
So I must ask, why aren't you a Muslim? After all, you must know by now that existence is evidence for Allah.

I would encourage you to not claim that you and a god talk. This "empty IMO claim" can be tested. Please ask this god of yours about the clothes I am wearing. He should know, right?

You will not get a reply.
Oh my, I must be a prophet!

What you call "evidence" and your claim that "you and a god talk" will be lost on adults I am afraid.

[Goat]

And how is that evidence that "God Created man"?? or 'God created Life", or "God created the universe"?? Show the WHY of that claim. What is the model, how does it get put together, or, are you just begging the question?

That is my evidence. Exsistence is my evidence of a God. That and the fact that God and i talk...but i wouldn't expect you to believe or understand that. Now where is your evidence?

And, please explain WHY existence is evidence for a God.

My evidence for evolution is fossils.. and the fossils change over time. There also is the convergence of evidence of the DNA , There is also the evidence of having the same retrovirus insertion in the DNA that the morphology and fossil evidence show to be closely related.. .. which is convergence of evidence. The dates of the fossils are found through the use of the dating methods of palentology , geology and physics, which provide multiple different methods for dating the same fossil, and they just so happen to come up with the same dates. There also is the direct observation in lab conditions, and discoveries of types of fossils that are predicted based on the age and type of geology in the area.

Something that can be shown, examined, predictions made, and a mechanism described for.

You say that it is 'evidence for xyzzy', but unless you can explain WHY and HOW it is evidence for that, well, it is simply a statement of faith.

[Sir Hamilton]

And how is that evidence that "God Created man"?? or 'God created Life", or "God created the universe"?? Show the WHY of that claim. What is the model, how does it get put together, or, are you just begging the question?

That is my evidence. Exsistence is my evidence of a God. That and the fact that God and i talk...but i wouldn't expect you to believe or understand that. Now where is your evidence?

And, please explain WHY existence is evidence for a God.

My evidence for evolution is fossils.. and the fossils change over time. There also is the convergence of evidence of the DNA , There is also the evidence of having the same retrovirus insertion in the DNA that the morphology and fossil evidence show to be closely related.. .. which is convergence of evidence. The dates of the fossils are found through the use of the dating methods of palentology , geology and physics, which provide multiple different methods for dating the same fossil, and they just so happen to come up with the same dates. There also is the direct observation in lab conditions, and discoveries of types of fossils that are predicted based on the age and type of geology in the area.

Something that can be shown, examined, predictions made, and a mechanism described for.

You say that it is 'evidence for xyzzy', but unless you can explain WHY and HOW it is evidence for that, well, it is simply a statement of faith.

Your evidence is all just something that you read in a text book or heard a professor say...and you simply took their word for it. You have found no fossils yourself nor have you dated any. By the way Watson and Crick did say that there was no way that DNA just happened by chance as you evolutionists would have us believe. The dating methods used to date fossil vary and are unreliable. Got anything else? Oh and did you like my list of many young earth scientists?

[Danmark]

Oh and did you like my list of many young earth scientists?

Particularly unimpressive, and off topic. You have yet to produce one fact or argue one piece of evidence for your young Earth beliefs which went out the window along with flat Earth theories.
"The level of support for evolution among scientists, the public and other groups is a topic that frequently arises in the creation-evolution controversy and touches on educational, religious, philosophical, scientific and political issues. The subject is primarily contentious in the United States. However, it is also important in other countries where creationists advocate the teaching of creationism as an alternative to evolution, or portray the modern evolutionary synthesis as an inadequate scientific paradigm.
An overwhelming majority of the scientific community accepts evolution as the dominant scientific theory of biological diversity.[1][2] Nearly every scientific society, representing hundreds of thousands of scientists, has issued statements rejecting intelligent design[2] and a petition supporting the teaching of evolutionary biology was endorsed by 72 US Nobel Prize winners.[3] Additionally, US courts have ruled in favor of teaching evolution in science classrooms, and against teaching creationism, in numerous cases such as Edwards v. Aguillard, Hendren v. Campbell, McLean v. Arkansas and Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_s ... _evolution

In view of the overwhelming support of the theory of evolution we can speak of it as a fact, just as we can speak of the fact of gravity. Unless you can bring something new to the discussion, that has yet to be published, your outmoded ideas based on 50 year old books that were out of date the moment they were published, this silliness deserves to be ignored. If you're really interested in discussing it, there is a Science and Religion forum here. This subtopic is about evidence for supernatural religious beliefs.

[Star]

uh.....ok.....i don't see any reason to evoke god either.....but now evoking God, that is a different story.

I think you meant to say "invoking God" is a different story.

Evoke and evoking are the same.

[Star]

It's true that Relativity doesn't show that the universe has always existed. He is wrong.

Explain how please. Is, or is not, time part of the universe, according to relativity?

Since you mean that spacetime began with the Big Bang, along with all matter and radiation, and there is no "before", then you are correct, in this context. The universe has always existed, but as far as we know, only in this spacetime. I thought you meant the fundamental constituents of the universe are eternal, and have literally always existed, in a context that transcends time, such as in Big Bounce theory. Of course, this is beyond Relativity's scope.

[iamtaka]

That's your opinion. And that's what philosophy is. Opinion. And opinions are changeable, therefore abstract and therefore violate. Science deals in facts about the physical. A correct physical fact is inviolate. I'm not suggesting that it's wrong to have opinions. I am suggesting that opinions should be grounded in actual facts, as opposed to being grounded in make believe.

That's an interesting philosophy, er... opinion... er... um.

[Goat]

And how is that evidence that "God Created man"?? or 'God created Life", or "God created the universe"?? Show the WHY of that claim. What is the model, how does it get put together, or, are you just begging the question?

That is my evidence. Exsistence is my evidence of a God. That and the fact that God and i talk...but i wouldn't expect you to believe or understand that. Now where is your evidence?

And, please explain WHY existence is evidence for a God.

My evidence for evolution is fossils.. and the fossils change over time. There also is the convergence of evidence of the DNA , There is also the evidence of having the same retrovirus insertion in the DNA that the morphology and fossil evidence show to be closely related.. .. which is convergence of evidence. The dates of the fossils are found through the use of the dating methods of palentology , geology and physics, which provide multiple different methods for dating the same fossil, and they just so happen to come up with the same dates. There also is the direct observation in lab conditions, and discoveries of types of fossils that are predicted based on the age and type of geology in the area.

Something that can be shown, examined, predictions made, and a mechanism described for.

You say that it is 'evidence for xyzzy', but unless you can explain WHY and HOW it is evidence for that, well, it is simply a statement of faith.

Your evidence is all just something that you read in a text book or heard a professor say...and you simply took their word for it. You have found no fossils yourself nor have you dated any. By the way Watson and Crick did say that there was no way that DNA just happened by chance as you evolutionists would have us believe. The dating methods used to date fossil vary and are unreliable. Got anything else? Oh and did you like my list of many young earth scientists?

And, how do you know what I did or did not do?? Please, be specific.

Please, show your source about "Watson and Crick", and show that this comment. Please, show yoru source, and the quote in context.

Back up your claims.