Let's cut to the chase. Do you have any evidence?

[no evidence no belief]

I feel like we've been beating around the bush for... 6000 years!

Can you please either provide some evidence for your supernatural beliefs, or admit that you have no evidence?

If you believe there once was a talking donkey (Numbers 22) could you please provide evidence?

If you believe there once was a zombie invasion in Jerusalem (Mat 27) could you please provide evidence?

If you believe in the flying horse (Islam) could you please provide evidence?

Walking on water, virgin births, radioactive spiders who give you superpowers, turning water into wine, turning iron into gold, demons, goblins, ghosts, hobbits, elves, angels, unicorns and Santa.

Can you PLEASE provide evidence?

[Sir Hamilton]

are you aware that these young earth scientists have earned their degrees from accredited universities? You put alot of faith in these accredited universities and peer reviews...I admire your faith.

Why, why don't you mention some of those young earth creationist scientists, and let's check to see what their degree is in, and what university that they actually went to.

How many of those 'scientists' were applied engineers, computer scientists or mathematicians? And, what is the evidence they use to support their claims?

I gave you a list. Why....why don't you quit playing childish games? Did you already forget the list that i gave you? Do you want more names? Looks like you have alot of homework to do...you need to be getting busy.

[Goat]

are you aware that these young earth scientists have earned their degrees from accredited universities? You put alot of faith in these accredited universities and peer reviews...I admire your faith.

Why, why don't you mention some of those young earth creationist scientists, and let's check to see what their degree is in, and what university that they actually went to.

How many of those 'scientists' were applied engineers, computer scientists or mathematicians? And, what is the evidence they use to support their claims?

I gave you a list. Why....why don't you quit playing childish games? Did you already forget the list that i gave you? Do you want more names? Looks like you have alot of homework to do...you need to be getting busy.

You gave me a list,... yet.. it is obvious .. because you can't answer that question, that you can't point to any that are actual scientists working in the field that are properly trained. You don't know the arguments, and you are just using 'appeal to authority'.

Lists of people don't do anything.

[Danmark]

are you aware that these young earth scientists have earned their degrees from accredited universities? You put alot of faith in these accredited universities and peer reviews...I admire your faith.

Why, why don't you mention some of those young earth creationist scientists, and let's check to see what their degree is in, and what university that they actually went to.

How many of those 'scientists' were applied engineers, computer scientists or mathematicians? And, what is the evidence they use to support their claims?

I gave you a list. Why....why don't you quit playing childish games? Did you already forget the list that i gave you? Do you want more names? Looks like you have alot of homework to do...you need to be getting busy.

You gave me a list,... yet.. it is obvious .. because you can't answer that question, that you can't point to any that are actual scientists working in the field that are properly trained. You don't know the arguments, and you are just using 'appeal to authority'.

Lists of people don't do anything.

He has been challenged several times to even explain the argument of any of his people on the list he cut and pasted. He has failed to do so, instead all we hear is "look at my list " . . . and it isn't even his list.

[Star]

are you aware that these young earth scientists have earned their degrees from accredited universities? You put alot of faith in these accredited universities and peer reviews...I admire your faith.

Are you aware that an overwhelming majority of scientists reject young-Earth creation myths wholeheartedly? There's a reason for that. 93% of members of the National Academy of Sciences don't believe in a personal god. The percentage of scientists who accept evolution and an old Earth is much higher, above 99.8% (citations at end).

So what if you plagiarized a list of names from a tabloid? I bet none of those scientists even published anything for peer-review, anyway. I've checked my online database of my accredited university, which has a subscription to pretty much every journal, and found no religious fables masquerading as real science.

Can you name one piece of work? Just one, by one creationist scientist? Don't tell me it's my homework, like you had the nerve to do to Goat. This is your homework, I assure you. You have come to debate woefully unprepared and we've already helped you out more than we're obligated to.

Delgado, C. "Finding evolution in medicine", NIH Record 58 (15) 28 July 2006

Larson, E.J. and Witham, L. “Leading scientists still reject God�, Nature 394(6691):313, 23 July 1998

[zeromeansnothing]

re Goat Post2702--We have evidence of chemistry, organic chemistry that is not life, yet can self replicate, We have an understanding on how protocells might have formed. While not out of the hypothesis state, there is knowledge that can be replicated and examined to show that the process CAN be entirely natural, without any kind of external manipulation except for the way chemicals interact in the environment.


. We may have stumbled on to a more considered middle ground, in the above quote. The highly likely presence of abiogenesis in the scientific universe as muted by both Goat and by Danmark earlier. All god speculation by religious people has found a perfect counterweight here.

The middle ground is metaphysics.
of or relating to things that are thought to exist but that cannot be seen

Two examples of metaphysical events ... God and abiogenesis in the outer universe.

[olavisjo]

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The core evidence I have for the God not existing is the lack of evidence for it.

That is not what I am saying. I am saying 'There is no reason to believe there a God is true until such time as evidence is presented that there is a God. It is not saying 'Because no evidence presented there is no God'. It is saying "Because there is no objective and public evidence for a God, there is no reason to accept that claimed God.'

Thank you for the clarification and retraction.

[Joab]

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The core evidence I have for the God not existing is the lack of evidence for it.

That is not what I am saying. I am saying 'There is no reason to believe there a God is true until such time as evidence is presented that there is a God. It is not saying 'Because no evidence presented there is no God'. It is saying "Because there is no objective and public evidence for a God, there is no reason to accept that claimed God.'

Thank you for the clarification and retraction.

God/s really are just a claim, a construct of man's imagination, if it were other than that then evidence should abound.

It doesn't.

[olavisjo]

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God/s really are just a claim, a construct of man's imagination, if it were other than that then evidence should abound.

It doesn't.

What evidence would you expect to see?

[otseng]

I gave you a list. Why....why don't you quit playing childish games? Did you already forget the list that i gave you? Do you want more names? Looks like you have alot of homework to do...you need to be getting busy.

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[Joab]

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God/s really are just a claim, a construct of man's imagination, if it were other than that then evidence should abound.

It doesn't.

What evidence would you expect to see?

Evidence of a or thousands of gods?

You see evidence is evidence.

Cavemen didn't understand the world around them and had no idea of the universe but they could see and think and imagine, so they came up with a reason for all the things they didn't understand and they called that reason gods.
Why is that so hard to understand?