Dad, mom ...I'm ...um, I'm gay

[KCKID]

The title/subtitle says it all. This scenario must have occurred many, many times. We've all heard, read or seen instances of this and the types of responses that parents of their gay children have given. While we only seem to have a handful of vocal anti-gay Christians on this forum, I'm genuinely curious as to how they would react if their son or daughter came to them and told them that they're gay. Others, feel free to offer your input.

The question again: How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay? Without revealing any more than you need to, has this actually happened to any of you ...either as a gay son/daughter or as a parent?

[Joab]

The title/subtitle says it all. This scenario must have occurred many, many times. We've all heard, read or seen instances of this and the types of responses that parents of their gay children have given. While we only seem to have a handful of vocal anti-gay Christians on this forum, I'm genuinely curious as to how they would react if their son or daughter came to them and told them that they're gay. Others, feel free to offer your input.

The question again: How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay? Without revealing any more than you need to, has this actually happened to any of you ...either as a gay son/daughter or as a parent?

So what?

How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay?

So what?

So, you would pass off your son's/daughters 'coming out' to you with a mere "So what?" I would have expected a bit more from you of ALL people, 99percent. It sounds as though you're fine with the notion that your son or your daughter is gay. If so, that's great.

It would be the same as if my child told me they were embracing Voodoo.

"So what?"

Christian truth doesn't change for my children either.

Are you claiming that a child seeking a sinful life overrules the Gospel?

Luke chapter 15 is all the answer your OP (or my children) needs.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+15

By the way KID, "as a Christian" IF they (my child) wanted to be a Christian . . .

How many gay lovers would I have to agree to my child having(?) daily, weekly, monthly. yearly????

I can't ask "WWJD," about marriage because that answer is already clear and my child's choice IF they chose gay life, would exclude marriage. So should I agree to doom them to a life of sinfulness???

Please remember to answer that question in Christian concepts please. Since my first loyalty is to Christ Jesus. PER Christ Jesus.

Absolutely none of that makes any sense.

"How many lovers would I have to agree to my child having(?) daily, weekly, monthly. yearly???? " What is this supposed to mean?

"Are you claiming that a child seeking a sinful life overrules the Gospel?" The answer is yes for that person.

Gay marriage is a fait accompli, the dinosaurs no longer rule the earth. It's just a matter of time.

[Danmark]

Absolutely none of that makes any sense.

"How many lovers would I have to agree to my child having(?) daily, weekly, monthly. yearly???? " What is this supposed to mean?

It means he confuses homosexuality with promiscuity. In the language of 99 they mean the same thing.

[Darias]

[Replying to post 42 by Danmark]

Bisexuality is usually more often associated with polyamory and promiscuity, but of course that's not what it actually means.

I would like to be in a monogamous relationship; anything more than that and all bets are off. I'm also a virgin. I don't like everyone I see; in fact I'm quite picky, not just about physical attractiveness, but also values.

In any case, I can only speak for myself at the end of the day.

[99percentatheism]

Joab

The title/subtitle says it all. This scenario must have occurred many, many times. We've all heard, read or seen instances of this and the types of responses that parents of their gay children have given. While we only seem to have a handful of vocal anti-gay Christians on this forum, I'm genuinely curious as to how they would react if their son or daughter came to them and told them that they're gay. Others, feel free to offer your input.

The question again: How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay? Without revealing any more than you need to, has this actually happened to any of you ...either as a gay son/daughter or as a parent?

So what?

How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay?

So what?

So, you would pass off your son's/daughters 'coming out' to you with a mere "So what?" I would have expected a bit more from you of ALL people, 99percent. It sounds as though you're fine with the notion that your son or your daughter is gay. If so, that's great.

It would be the same as if my child told me they were embracing Voodoo.

"So what?"

Christian truth doesn't change for my children either.

Are you claiming that a child seeking a sinful life overrules the Gospel?

Luke chapter 15 is all the answer your OP (or my children) needs.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+15

By the way KID, "as a Christian" IF they (my child) wanted to be a Christian . . .

How many gay lovers would I have to agree to my child having(?) daily, weekly, monthly. yearly????

I can't ask "WWJD," about marriage because that answer is already clear and my child's choice IF they chose gay life, would exclude marriage. So should I agree to doom them to a life of sinfulness???

Please remember to answer that question in Christian concepts please. Since my first loyalty is to Christ Jesus. PER Christ Jesus.

Absolutely none of that makes any sense.

How interesting that you understood what I meant perfectly. Of course proven by the following.

"How many lovers would I have to agree to my child having(?) daily, weekly, monthly. yearly???? " What is this supposed to mean?

Prodigal children are not celebrated in their lasciviousness and licentiousness. Per Jesus.

"Are you claiming that a child seeking a sinful life overrules the Gospel?" The answer is yes for that person.

All the more reason to reject that person.

Gay marriage is a fait accompli, the dinosaurs no longer rule the earth. It's just a matter of time.

On the outside of The Church without doubt. I have read the entire New Testament. I know how things go with the earth. I couldn't agree with you more. But you are wishing upon a fallen star if you think gay marriage and gay culture will be accepted everywhere. Abortion only affected those destined to embrace it. And the shattered and repentant people that embraced that action and are now broken by their behaviors, maked up many in The Church. The Gospel is about the outcasts and the sinners seeking an out from the world and its ways. And if preaching repentance and forgiveness of sins is a crime now? There may indeed need to be built many more prisons if you think everyone will bow the knee in submission to the gay agenda. Secularism ends at The Church and household door of many Christians.

This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.

If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.

1 John 1

I say this because many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.
- 2 John 1

By the way, how did things fair with Duck Dynasty and Chick-fil-A? I guess things are not going to be as finalized as you decalre.

The Church was completed long ago.

It was created in a time where the kind of permissiveness as we see growing now was even more commonplace. If Nero and his same sex marriages couldn't force the compliance of The Church, and Ceasar after Caesar after Caesar in many different guises throught the last two millenia could not defeat The Church, a rehashed 21st century secular morality forced on the populace by judicial fiat - and the demands of those that define themselves by their sex acts becoming a civil right, - won't cause The Church much unrest. That's been here before. We've been there and done that. And are eqipped to deal with again. And again as well.

It's far past time to see the benefit of our adversaries boldly taking their place in plain sight. Once again, The Church wil take its place as the city on the hill and contend for the faith earnestly drawing those that God calls to repentance and forgiveness.

Like with Elijah, the Lord will always have some that will not bow the knee to Baal.

But of course there will always be those in the populace that do.

Ever seperated the wheat from the chaff?

Of course I'm asking for a great command of the Bible here and hopefully won't have to endure another:

"What is this supposed to mean?"

[KCKID]

The title/subtitle says it all. This scenario must have occurred many, many times. We've all heard, read or seen instances of this and the types of responses that parents of their gay children have given. While we only seem to have a handful of vocal anti-gay Christians on this forum, I'm genuinely curious as to how they would react if their son or daughter came to them and told them that they're gay. Others, feel free to offer your input.

The question again: How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay? Without revealing any more than you need to, has this actually happened to any of you ...either as a gay son/daughter or as a parent?

So what?

How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay?

So what?

So, you would pass off your son's/daughters 'coming out' to you with a mere "So what?" I would have expected a bit more from you of ALL people, 99percent. It sounds as though you're fine with the notion that your son or your daughter is gay. If so, that's great.

It would be the same as if my child told me they were embracing Voodoo.

"So what?"

Well, there ya go again ...adding your own negative spin to the question asked. I said nothing about 'embracing' homosexuality. I asked how you would respond if your child told you that they were gay. "So what" is not a serious response to the question asked UNLESS it's said in love, i.e. "So what if you're gay or straight ...I love you anyway ..."

I don't believe that YOU would respond so favorably.

Christian truth doesn't change for my children either.

The 'Christian truth' that you so often refer to just as often has little to nothing 'Christ-like' about it. Jesus (on whom the Christian belief system is based) said nothing about homosexuality. Had Jesus fathered a son or a daughter and they came to him with the question asked in the OP ...how do you think Jesus would respond? I think I know.

Are you claiming that a child seeking a sinful life overrules the Gospel?

There's nothing in the Gospel that alludes to homosexuality or any examples given of the response/s from parents when told that their child is gay. Furthermore, why would their telling you, "I'm gay' automatically suggest to you that they are about to embark on a 'sinful lifestyle' ...?

You can't use the Gospel to answer this question for you, 99percent.

Luke chapter 15 is all the answer your OP (or my children) needs.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+15

If you equate a son or daughter coming to you and saying, "I'm gay" to their 'sowing their wild oats' as in the Prodigal's son then, by all means, let them go and sow their wild oats. But, as with the father in that particular parable you recommended, you would let them go their way and continue to love them anyway. Maybe you need to re-read your own suggested parables.

By the way KID, "as a Christian" IF they (my child) wanted to be a Christian . . .

How many gay lovers would I have to agree to my child having(?) daily, weekly, monthly. yearly????

I don't know. But, let me turn this around ...if your child came to you and said, "Dad, I'm heterosexual" ...how many straight lovers would you have to agree to your child having? daily? weekly? yearly? You DO realize that the most promiscuous folks on this planet are heterosexuals, do you not? And, many of these would undoubtedly be *gasp* professed Christians.

I can't ask "WWJD," about marriage because that answer is already clear and my child's choice IF they chose gay life, would exclude marriage. So should I agree to doom them to a life of sinfulness???

I dunno. Have you actually read about the Prodigal and his son that you recommended (above) to me? You've probably read the words but you don't appear to have properly comprehended the message. Let me help. The son and the squandering of his father's money on wine, women and song is basically 'fluff'. The real message of that story is about the father's LOVE for his son and how he never forsook his son even during the worst times. So, think again about the question asked in the OP and (please) get back to me with a better answer than the one you gave ...if you would. Oh, by the way, the above story would normally have little or even nothing to do with the average gay person coming out to their parents. 'Coming out' does not necessarily equate to one's about to throw all caution to the wind and begin a lifetime of sowing their wild oats. That's just YOUR (ahem, rather typical) take on this topic.

Please remember to answer that question in Christian concepts please. Since my first loyalty is to Christ Jesus. PER Christ Jesus.

Then by all means answer the question asked in the OP as you believe Jesus would. I doubt seriously that Jesus would respond with "So what?"

[99percentatheism]

[Replying to post 45 by KCKID]

You are assuming that I agree with gay propaganda.

I don't. Neither the APA or the left wing of political power is the arbiter of Christian truth.

It's far more than likely I'll experience my children questioning their belief in God, rather than having to deal with their embracing sexual immorality and trying to claim they are supported in scripture for doing so.

And nothing they choose changes Christian truth. And of course you know my opinion of gay culture versus Christian life. No need to revisit the immutability of Christian truth on that. Because, as it has been pointed out ubiquitously, "Jesus never said a word about homosexuality." And especially never said a word and LGBT political authority ruling The Church. So trying to force 1960's sexual liberation on the Gospel, is about as sensible as claiming that Jesus was a real baby sheep because John the Baptist never said Jesus wasn't a real lamb.

[Joab]

[Replying to post 45 by KCKID]

You are assuming that I agree with gay propaganda.

I don't. Neither the APA or the left wing of political power is the arbiter of Christian truth.

It's far more than likely I'll experience my children questioning their belief in God, rather than having to deal with their embracing sexual immorality and trying to claim they are supported in scripture for doing so.

And nothing they choose changes Christian truth. And of course you know my opinion of gay culture versus Christian life. No need to revisit the immutability of Christian truth on that. Because, as it has been pointed out ubiquitously, "Jesus never said a word about homosexuality." And especially never said a word and LGBT political authority ruling The Church. So trying to force 1960's sexual liberation on the Gospel, is about as sensible as claiming that Jesus was a real baby sheep because John the Baptist never said Jesus wasn't a real lamb.

Ya see they wouldn't be "embracing sexual immorality" they would merely be informing you of their god given sexuality.

[KCKID]

[Replying to post 45 by KCKID]

You are assuming that I agree with gay propaganda.

I don't. Neither the APA or the left wing of political power is the arbiter of Christian truth.

It's far more than likely I'll experience my children questioning their belief in God, rather than having to deal with their embracing sexual immorality and trying to claim they are supported in scripture for doing so.

And nothing they choose changes Christian truth. And of course you know my opinion of gay culture versus Christian life. No need to revisit the immutability of Christian truth on that. Because, as it has been pointed out ubiquitously, "Jesus never said a word about homosexuality." And especially never said a word and LGBT political authority ruling The Church. So trying to force 1960's sexual liberation on the Gospel, is about as sensible as claiming that Jesus was a real baby sheep because John the Baptist never said Jesus wasn't a real lamb.

Geez, you're really something, 99percent. You're taking Jesus' silence on homosexuality to somehow reinforce YOUR stance on this topic. Jesus never said a word about LGBT political authority ruling the Church (what does that even mean?) so therefore Jesus is totally against gay people BY VIRTUE of His silence!

Hmmm . . .

Anyway, 99percent, would you distance yourself from your child if they told you that they were gay? This HAS occurred many times and Christian parents HAVE responded in various ways. And, I'm sure that it's still occurring. How would YOU PERSONALLY respond ...no Bible please!

[Sir Hamilton]

I would be disappointed and since they are my child then they would have known what i believed about homosexuality. I wouldn't have need of telling them how this lifestyle is sinful and rebellious to how the Creator intended mankind to live. I would tell them i love them and always will and will pray that they stop living that sinful lifestyle.

Why wouldn't you hug him/her and reassure them that that is the way god made them and god can do no wrong?

Who is god?

I was under the impression you knew that, have you lost your faith?

I know who God is, but I wasn't sure which god you were referring to...there are many gods. We're you referring to God?

You have a particular god don't you? It was your hypothetical response to your hypothetical child to which I referred.

I don't understand why you are having so much difficulty with it.

Yes I am a child of YHWH, the Most High God. And as to your original question...you will find the answer in my response to the original question of this thread.

Why wouldn't you hug him/her and reassure them that that is the way god made them and god can do no wrong?

Does your god not create everything, can your god do no wrong?
I won't find answers to these in your previous posts as you claim.

Answers to your questions in order.
Because i don't want to lie to my child. Yes YHWH is the Creator. Everything God does is according to His will.

You will need to point out the lie to me, if you would.

Is your god the creator of everything was the question.

Does your last sentence mean that your god can do wrong?

Yes, of course, the lie would be to tell him that that is the way god (whoever god is) made him. Who is god?

[Sir Hamilton]

From Post 31:

Everything God does is according to His will.

Only don't it beat all, we can't tell God's will from that'n there a-swearin' up and down it ain't his own.

Could someone please translate that for me.

"Y'all... y'all... y'all ain't gon' b'lieve it, I know ya ain't, but God himself done told me what it is he himself wants of all of ya."

"Only I can't prove it, y'all's just gotta take my word fer it."

So what did God tell you that you are so excited about?