Sodom, Greece, Rome and homosexuality.

AlAyeti · Post by **AlAyeti** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:00 pm

Does allowing for diversity include parents having no voice in what their children are forced to be taught and have to accept?

Do Christians and the many other cultures and belief systems opposed to homosexuality have the right to have their culture and religious views respected in society when it comes to decent and natural sexual behavior in the education system and in public?

Are homosexuals demanding accesss to children under the label of diversity and anti-hate legislation?

This seems the number one issue between average and normal "family" people and the homosexual agenda.

Can there be laws passed that keeps homosexuality from becoming forced on children and families that oppose it, without the homosexual community and homosexual action organizations crying discrimination?

Is there such a thing anymore as heterosexual rights?

melikio · Post by **melikio** » Wed May 31, 2006 7:05 am

First off, a Christian Priest should capitalize "Christian," when writing the word.

You see, 1John?

This illustrates your ATTITUDE toward others, when you think you are right.

What does it matter to you if he capitalizes the "c" in the word "christian"? It's clear enough what he meant by it, I think. And BTW, just because someone uses the word as you do, doesn't mean they revere or see the same things in it that you do.

And it wasn't all that long ago, that I corrected you for using "Meliko", instead of "Melikio" dozens of times in a row. And I only did that when your more perfect and holier-than-thou fin surfaced annoyingly in a series of posts.

Sure, many of us know the basic rules of english, but not all of us follow them perfectly or to the letter; and the same is true of The Bible for most people (though few have the honesty, courage or fortitude to admit it).

But more importantly, perhaps the person didn't really want to capitalize the word "Christian", or intended to NOT capitalize the word (as you obviously would). And I can tell you, that there were times in my life that the word ("Christian") was something I actually avoided using, because its meaning (to me) was so diminished and negative.

It's just as you take the word "homosexual", and it comes across as "child molestor"; you shouldn't really use that word, because you seldom (if ever) put the proper meaning behind it. I'm pretty sure you are aware of the distortions you bring with your comments on "homosexuals" (though I'm fairly sure I can't convince you to admit that).

I don't think you should be chastizing anyone about one "letter" in a word.

-Mel-

melikio · Post by **melikio** » Wed May 31, 2006 7:17 am

Homosexuality is not a religion.

LOL!! Wyvern, I know WHY you had to say that, but I have to admit that it is so humorous to me, that you had to actually write that.

It just reminds me of why I'm likely insane for participating here.

-Mel-

Cathar1950 · Post by **Cathar1950** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:56 pm

Homosexuals are NOT some kind of different human being. A person does or doesn't do same-sex sex acts. Just implying that the Christian Church has to deal with homosexuals, as if they were some jungle tribe is ridiculous.

At least you are acknowledging they are human beings, it is a start.
Again you are equating sex acts with homosexuality. No one is asking you do act ridiculous but you do it any way.

I have been to many different Christian Churches and known many Christians and none of them EVER did anything to a person that proclaimed the were "a" homosexual. Christian's Gay-Bashing?" That myth needs burying.

It is not a myth the only thing buried is some ones head.

So Jihadist suicide bombers are to be welcomed in the Christian Churches without having to change their behavior?

Again you are trying to equate homosexuality with murder. I wonder where you are putting your head? Is the rectum mean to contain your head.

No Christian wants their children to be enveloped into or indoctrinated into a lifestyle that is an abomination.

That is not the desire and you know it.

NO Christian is allowed to dissent from the leadership of gay political and legal authority. I have psoted again and again organizations threatening Christians that oppose homosexualization.

Yes you keep posting your propaganda. They are not threatening you they feel threatened which is why they react so. Homsexualization is not a reality. Is it even a concept?

And the Gay Agenda has cunningly and deviously put into place laws that support homosexualization of youth in public education and the workplace and any dissent of homosexual authority is labeled as hateful and criminal.

That is simply not true. The laws are for their protection as human beings.
What you indorse is hateful and criminal.

Nor to offer up themselves or their children on the alter of sexual hedonism, nor to allow the sexually reprobate to take control of society.

Again you are equating needlessly.
Swift does not speak for all homosexuals any more then you speak for all Christians.

Mel:

It just reminds me of why I'm likely insane for participating here.

I feel the same way sometimes. But to not say anything seems worse.

Grumpy · Post by **Grumpy** » Wed May 31, 2006 1:23 pm

Cathar1950 and others of open mind

I invite you all to read these posts from front to back(in order to understand the whole topic).

http://forum.physorg.com/index.php?showtopic=5071&st=0

Is this the correct interpretation of these scriptures, I don't know, but they do make much more sense than the Gay Gangs theory.

All are welcome to join the fray.(but be well prepared to defend your positions).

Grumpy

Cathar1950 · Post by **Cathar1950** » Wed May 31, 2006 1:47 pm

Thanks Grumpy. It looks interesting.
Just what I need more reading.
It is all I can do to keep up now. But it looks worth it so I will have to quit sleeping.

kiwimac · Post by **kiwimac** » Wed May 31, 2006 2:18 pm

Perhaps 1_John,

you could respond to the scripture without your pederastic propaganda? Your eisegesis in this matter is obvious and completely mistaken.

Kiwimac

Scrotum · Post by **Scrotum** » Wed May 31, 2006 2:28 pm

I would just like to add a note as i seen so many make the same mistake over and over again; Propaganda means spreading of information for a purpose.

This means that in Schools, everything told is propaganda. In media, everything told is propaganda etcetera. Ive seen so many americans confusing "propaganda" with somethind "bad" of some kind (because of their lack of understanding of their own language).

I even saw an american "professor" using it in a wrong way (not defining what kind of propaganda) as she thought it was something bad (as in The bush administration is spreading propaganda, and have it as default that the information is fale).

Just wanted to note.
Propaganda only means spreading of information for a cause. Thats it. The information can be both False or True, does not change the nature of "propaganda".

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Wed May 31, 2006 2:29 pm

kiwimac wrote:Your eisegesis in this matter is obvious and completely mistaken.

Just in case there are others, like me, who were unfamiliar with the word eisegesis.
eis-ege-sis

Pronunciation: "I-s&-'jE-s&s, 'I-s&-"
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural eis-ege-ses /-"sEz/
Etymology: Greek eis into (akin to Greek en in) + English exegesis
: the interpretation of a text (as of the Bible) by reading into it one's own ideas

Useful word. Thank you, kiwimac.

kiwimac · Post by **kiwimac** » Wed May 31, 2006 2:48 pm

McCulloch,

Oops sorry, shouldn't use jargon!

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Wed May 31, 2006 3:17 pm

kiwimac wrote:Oops sorry, shouldn't use jargon!

Don't be. I welcome the oportunity to learn new words.

Debating Christianity and Religion

Sodom, Greece, Rome and homosexuality.

Sodom, Greece, Rome and homosexuality.

Who's perfect? (Not 1John)