How can we argue with something that doesn't exist.
There is no CHRISTIANITY, there are thousands.
Christians can't even agree on which god they worship.
The gunfire comes from all points of the theological compass, If they can't agree on what christianity is how are we meant to argue against them. They argue with themselves. Sheesh
Is it possible for any christian to argue for christianity without contradicting christianity?
Impossible to argue with christianity
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Impossible to argue with christianity
Post #1What the world needs now
Is love sweet love
It's the only thing
That there's just to little of.
No not just for some
But for everyone
Jackie Deshannon
Is love sweet love
It's the only thing
That there's just to little of.
No not just for some
But for everyone
Jackie Deshannon
Re: Impossible to argue with christianity
Post #21There are 41 thousand denominations of Christians according to the Center for the Study of Global Christianity.Joab wrote:
When did christianity become a vague term?
Which god does a christian worship? Is it Allah or Shiva? Christian atheists are like carnivorous vegans, have fun with that.
In fact which of the gods in the bible does a christian worship?
Making sense of the etymology of Christian, it means Follower of Christ.
(I don't necessarily hold the following views nor do I assume anyone else does)
"I believe God exists; I'm pro-LGBT; I'm anti-abortion - except in extreme circumstances; I'm pro 'just-war'; I don't take genesis literally I take it allegorically, though I do take the fall of man aspect 'literally' "
Those are many positions on different issues that you can't assume based on whether or not someone is a Christian.
I'm assuming by "Carnivorous vegans" you mean in self contradiction, but "Follower of Christ" does not equate to "Literal believer in all things Christ said and did". I wouldn't call a Christian who has possessions a carnivorous vegan purely because Jesus said at one point to give them up.
As for "Which of the gods in the bible does a Christian worship?", if you include Christian Atheists, not necessarily any God. Otherwise, the Bible clearly focuses on one God. (Though I won't say that every chapter of the Bible advocates strict monotheism, especially early on)
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Re: Impossible to argue with christianity
Post #22Thank you.Jashwell wrote:There are 41 thousand denominations of Christians according to the Center for the Study of Global Christianity.Joab wrote:
When did christianity become a vague term?
Which god does a christian worship? Is it Allah or Shiva? Christian atheists are like carnivorous vegans, have fun with that.
In fact which of the gods in the bible does a christian worship?
Making sense of the etymology of Christian, it means Follower of Christ.
(I don't necessarily hold the following views nor do I assume anyone else does)
"I believe God exists; I'm pro-LGBT; I'm anti-abortion - except in extreme circumstances; I'm pro 'just-war'; I don't take genesis literally I take it allegorically, though I do take the fall of man aspect 'literally' "
Those are many positions on different issues that you can't assume based on whether or not someone is a Christian.
I'm assuming by "Carnivorous vegans" you mean in self contradiction, but "Follower of Christ" does not equate to "Literal believer in all things Christ said and did". I wouldn't call a Christian who has possessions a carnivorous vegan purely because Jesus said at one point to give them up.
As for "Which of the gods in the bible does a Christian worship?", if you include Christian Atheists, not necessarily any God. Otherwise, the Bible clearly focuses on one God. (Though I won't say that every chapter of the Bible advocates strict monotheism, especially early on)
I don't think I could have made my point any better.
What the world needs now
Is love sweet love
It's the only thing
That there's just to little of.
No not just for some
But for everyone
Jackie Deshannon
Is love sweet love
It's the only thing
That there's just to little of.
No not just for some
But for everyone
Jackie Deshannon
Re: Impossible to argue with christianity
Post #23Agreed.alive wrote:Joab wrote: How can we argue with something that doesn't exist.
There is no CHRISTIANITY, there are thousands.
Christians can't even agree on which god they worship.
The gunfire comes from all points of the theological compass, If they can't agree on what christianity is how are we meant to argue against them. They argue with themselves. Sheesh
Is it possible for any christian to argue for christianity without contradicting christianity?
Leave them alone... The entertainment value alone is priceless...
I'd also add that this arguing among themselves does more damage to them and their credibility that any outside influence.
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IF the earth was created as a place for HIS sinful elect to live with the reprobate so the fallen elect could be redeemed and sanctified (as per the parable of the wheat and the tares) and the people of the Kingdom of GOD are sent here by the Son of Man to learn the nature of the sin of the reprobate and the reprobate, the people of the evil one, are sent here by the devil to fulfill his desires,
then what would you expect different?
The Christian world has:
- a multitude of conflicting doctrines from the tares to confound and confuse the elect so as to extend the postponement of the judgement even longer
- a multitude of conflicting doctrines to separate the false (Cain) from the true believers
- a multitude of conflicting doctrines to teach the elect every holy truth can and will be perverted any number of ways
- a multitude of conflicting doctrines forcing those who can hear the Spirit of GOD to seek HIM and to pay attention
All of these things fit the religious model of our reality very well with no need for Christians to re-interpret the complex ambiguities the for any reason. We all get to believe what we want, tares included, and it is all to the best for HIS sinful elect.
Peace, Ted
then what would you expect different?
The Christian world has:
- a multitude of conflicting doctrines from the tares to confound and confuse the elect so as to extend the postponement of the judgement even longer
- a multitude of conflicting doctrines to separate the false (Cain) from the true believers
- a multitude of conflicting doctrines to teach the elect every holy truth can and will be perverted any number of ways
- a multitude of conflicting doctrines forcing those who can hear the Spirit of GOD to seek HIM and to pay attention
All of these things fit the religious model of our reality very well with no need for Christians to re-interpret the complex ambiguities the for any reason. We all get to believe what we want, tares included, and it is all to the best for HIS sinful elect.
Peace, Ted
PCE Theology as I see it...
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.