The Christian Response to Homosexuality

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The Christian Response to Homosexuality

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Many Christians consider homosexual practices to be immoral. The forum has multiple threads which include arguments as to whether or not homosexuality should be considered immoral, and even whether this position is supported Biblically.

In this thread, we will take it is a given that homosexuality is immoral.

Under this assumption, what should the response of Christians be to the existence of homosexuality? How should we interact with or treat persons who are homosexuals?

In terms of political society, what sort of laws should Christians support with respect to homosexuality? If there is to be unequal treatment of homosexuals under the law, what is the Biblical basis for this?


Again, arguments concerning the morality of homosexuality are not relevant to the thread. What is relevant is discussion of the possible Christian responses to homosexuality, and what valid rationale there are for these responses.

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melikio wrote:
Rationalized away God we see.

The sheelpe are not all stupid, some of us can see.

Anytime man (you) try to change God, that man is antichrist.

You fit the bill just nicely! Stop attempting to teach humanism doctrines.

Either repent or perish!
If the Bible says Stone them, and your heart don't fall the same way, that means that your heart and Gods heart are not in line / agreement.

Gods ways and your ways are not the same, so better to get to know God first.
Not Anywhere!

Not outside your City or over seas, not under the water or upon the moon.

NoPlace, Period... and if caught, swift execution.

My only thing is how?

With actual stones?

What about Bullets? Would they not be the modern and humane rendition of a stone that would swiftly deal with the abomination?

I believe a small firing Squad would be in order, and please - No Blanks allowed! -- That would be unGodly!

The Kingdome is HERE and it will be rulled over with Christ as Head with the Moral laws intact, what do you think will happen when Christ Sits Here as the King of Kings that he is and true Judgement is Executed?

Will Fags then be allowed to do what they want? No, Indeed the obvious answer is NO, God will not allow perversity to flourish, nor say even live.

Fall in line to Gods laws now and rend your heart to anything contrary...
No, not at all... its a matter of following Gods Law, his Will, doing so lawfully.

There is no lolerance to extend a life sentance when there is a mandate of death to be executed.

We are to have compassion, not excuse, love, not hate for God or man by allowing the evil to continue.
You should know the answer! God directs you to the proper and Christian method in dealing with them, execution.


No do you men in our present degraded and immoral society as it exists today, that perhaps better worded is what your looking for?

How should we interact with a fag in the modern world?
We are CALLED to JUDGE! HERE and Now to Judge, that is part of the package, and if you call yourself a Christian, exercise it!
Study the law, repent from your perverse lifestyle do what the bible says to become a Christian, and never Go back, that is a good start....

obedience to God is necessary, belief is not enough!

Baptism is necessary faith alone does not cut it, fear kills faith, you must love the truth more than anything in your life.

Christ will bring Peace and he will destroy wickedness in your life, practice to not be a fag, walk in the words of God and put on his armour... but you must not return to that vile practice, you must not think you can be double minded.

If you love me, keep my commands, one of which is homosexuals are not allowed and they are to be stoned... ask God to kill your homosexual nature, ask him to destroy utterly your wrong thoughts, study the word and get baptised... turn from your past and do not practice it.

Decide to follow God and his ways or just admit that you are not
Christian.
Only for them to come to the Truth and Repent or be destroyed. You do not pray for the vile wicked enemy of God, unless he repent or given all options to repent and come to the truth... he is not any concern of yours!

Jesus did not care if everyone liked him or his message, he was not into numbers, he was into truth and His Fathers way/laws/mind/heart/love.
How about Cold, Unsympathetic, but polite as people are that meet one another in the mall. Perhaps rolling eyes and speaking out telling things, and then there is a point to shun them... all this is unless you catch them in the act.

If you catch them in the act... well well there is another story!
You and the rest of the world including Judeo-Christians, do not understand PAUL nor CHRIST.

I can show many quotes from The Perverts in question that call themselves Fag and Queer et al etceteras.

If they can call themselves that so can I.

Cant have a double standard now can we.

Gay is Happy, and the term was slowly changed since the turn of this past century....

I am gay, but I am not a fag.

To call a homosexual gay is an insult, they are no where near gay nor would anyone in their right mind call it gay in the true sense. Any one that cares to study the lifestyle, will see that they are sick perverts as a whole, sick sick sick indeed.

Recruit hell, they want to corrupt young men all across the land just to get more meat for their disgusting table.
I just had to put these "Christian" responses in ONE place, to illustrate just how much fear, hatred and hurtfulness they contain. Now of course, as this participant has certainly illustrated, that IS what he embraces as a "Christian" response to homosexuality. And no matter how one views homosexuality itself, we can see where this guy is coming from.

I can't wait to see what others have to say. O:)

-Mel-
Me neither, as I HASTEly wait a reply.

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Just because your mind is in the gutter does not mean that mine is there as well.
You have proven more about yourself than you know or admit. And almost any person (not just a Bible student) could make a sound case against you, with your very own words.

-Mel-
"It is better to BE more like Jesus and assume to speak less for God." -MA-

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Wow, I'm saddened on how some people use religion to justify their hate of those different from themselves. Of course, religion upholds certain moral truths, but when the focus is no longer on Christ and God's grace, I see that Christ is a kind of side show.

In my view, the intense disgust that some Christians have toward homosexuals does not produce good fruit. We can all love the sinner and hate the sin, but when you have intense disgust for the sinner, I think that Christianity is more of an excuse to hate.

We saw the same attitudes expressed toward the freedom of slaves, and the rights of women. Religion can be a powerful force for good, but this clearly illustrates that religion can be a powerful force for evil as well.
People say of the last day, that God shall give judgment. This is true. But it is not true as people imagine. Every man pronounces his own sentence; as he shows himself here in his essence, so will he remain everlastingly -- Meister Eckhart

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I have to agree whole-heartedly Harvey.
I wish I had said that.
Just because your mind is in the gutter does not mean that mine is there as well.
I thionk we know where your "mind" is.

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melikio wrote:
Just because your mind is in the gutter does not mean that mine is there as well.
You have proven more about yourself than you know or admit. And almost any person (not just a Bible student) could make a sound case against you, with your very own words.

-Mel-

True indeed with an adjective descriptive inclusive:

Any person of the world and that knows not the true Gospel or Laws of God.


Truth is I care less what you think or the rest of satans minions, your lies only fool the ignorant and the student o mans doctrines and not those that Love the Lord with all their heart.

Bring it on, go ahead, you guys are being too light on me!

I know you have the potential to do better, albeit of no use.

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harvey1 wrote:Wow, I'm saddened on how some people use religion to justify their hate of those different from themselves. Of course, religion upholds certain moral truths, but when the focus is no longer on Christ and God's grace, I see that Christ is a kind of side show.

In my view, the intense disgust that some Christians have toward homosexuals does not produce good fruit. We can all love the sinner and hate the sin, but when you have intense disgust for the sinner, I think that Christianity is more of an excuse to hate.

We saw the same attitudes expressed toward the freedom of slaves, and the rights of women. Religion can be a powerful force for good, but this clearly illustrates that religion can be a powerful force for evil as well.
And it is only YOUR view not Jesus' view as his view is in line with God the fathers view and that is in line perfectly with the Law of God. The Mercy is there, your doing the whole of society a great service by destruction of the wickedness througtht the lands.

Christ is your forbidden side show, he is no christ at all in your version of truth, he is a hatemonger of his own Father, but not mine.

No to hate the Sin and not the sinner.... out of context as usual with this croud I'm sure.

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Cathar1950 wrote:I have to agree whole-heartedly Harvey.
I wish I had said that.
Just because your mind is in the gutter does not mean that mine is there as well.
I thionk we know where your "mind" is.
Yes, In the Scriptures where it belongs upon Gods Laws.


The question is, does the Words of God so say to kill the homosexual or NOT?

Yes or NO!

And why are you angry with me for agreeing with God?

Perhaps because of your anti-Christ nature?

Yes, that's it indeed!

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True indeed with an adjective descriptive inclusive:

Any person of the world and that knows not the true Gospel or Laws of God.

Truth is I care less what you think or the rest of satans minions, your lies only fool the ignorant and the student o mans doctrines and not those that Love the Lord with all their heart.

Bring it on, go ahead, you guys are being too light on me!

I know you have the potential to do better, albeit of no use.
YOU are wise and not a "fool"? Are you sure? (You haven't proven that you know much that is truly good.)

You appear to me (and likely many others), to be no more "worthy" of God's grace, than any other human being (from the greatest of all sinners, to the most pious "saint" who doesn't know what humility is). But then again, since you believe Im one of "satans's minnions", God will have to show you what words likely will not.

-Mel-
"It is better to BE more like Jesus and assume to speak less for God." -MA-

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melikio wrote:
True indeed with an adjective descriptive inclusive:

Any person of the world and that knows not the true Gospel or Laws of God.

Truth is I care less what you think or the rest of satans minions, your lies only fool the ignorant and the student o mans doctrines and not those that Love the Lord with all their heart.

Bring it on, go ahead, you guys are being too light on me!

I know you have the potential to do better, albeit of no use.
YOU are wise and not a "fool"? Are you sure? (You haven't proven that you know much that is truly good.)



You appear to me (and likely many others), to be no more "worthy" of God's grace, than any other human being (from the greatest of all sinners, to the most pious "saint" who doesn't know what humility is). But then again, since you believe Im one of "satans's minnions", God will have to show you what words likely will not.
-Mel-
Tell Him to Bring it on Hot and Heavy, as I am ready and willing to accept anything from God, even satans attacks as heavy and fierce that he can dish out and God will allow, yet I know with God's grace and mercy, and his protection, all their works are but dust in the wind!



Change day by day, here a little there a little as you put on the Chothes of christ and Obey and follow the Law and study the Law and put on Chists Mind, your old ways die out day by day and the new mind the new heart with Gods laws being wrote in the mind/heart causes your new nature to displace the old nature.

The kingdom is Here, it's coming more fully...

John
3 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


That John 3:16 is not about what most people sell it as, it is not about later in never never land, it is here and NOW in the present...

Problem is people don't study, they only puke what the heard some one else say.

Study

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all the words in scripture and use your head
when they seem difficult, then use caution and
just dont jump to conclusions

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In England, the Christians have to respond to homosexuality as homosexuality is used to destroy them:

Church 'could be forced to bless gay weddings'
By Jonathan Petre
(Filed: 10/06/2006)



New Government proposals on equality could require clergy to bless homosexual "weddings" or face prosecution, the Church of England said yesterday.

It said the proposed regulations could undermine official teaching and require Christians to act against their religious convictions.

The Sexual Orientation (Provision of Goods and Services) Regulations will make discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation illegal in the same way as race or sex.

They are designed to protect gays and lesbians from being denied "goods, facilities and services" on the basis of their sexual preferences.

They were drawn up after homosexual couples complained of being refused hotel rooms.

But the Church said in its official response to a period of consultation that the regulations would have a serious impact on Christian organisations and would elevate the rights of homosexuals above those of religion.

Unless exemptions were strengthened, Christian centres that disapproved of homosexual behaviour could be forced to hire out rooms to gay groups and Christian charities could have their public funding cut if they did not agree to the regulations.

Faith schools could be required to teach that homosexuality was of equal value to heterosexual marriage and if ministers of religion were not properly protected they could be open to legal action for following their duty.

Last week the Bishop of Rochester, the Rt Rev Michael Nazir-Ali, said that several of the main faiths in the country would have "serious difficulties" with the proposed regulations.


19 January 2006: Gay weddings for priests 'unbiblical'
22 December 2005: Gay pride or unholy alliance?

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