Did humans descend from other primates?

[McCulloch]

Man did not descend from the primates.

Did humans descend from other primates?
Are humans primates or should there be special biological taxonomy for humanity?
Please cite evidence.

[Goat]

Hence, it covers both properties as you describes.
Isn't it amazing to see such neat codes in all living organisms? The codes are not found in dead rocks, metal alloys, crystallines, etc., but even the smallest living organisms are controlled by the same programming language.
Just wondering if it all comes by chance.

I's not really a code, but rather chemistry that allows cause protiens to form in specific shapes. It is partly change, but it is chance that has what is known as a 'filter' applied so there are non-random results. That filter is known as 'natural selection'.

Chemistry also follows a strict set of predetermined laws. The number of electrons per layer, fermions per quantum states etc, are rules-of-the-game preset to keep the universe in order. The "filter" is also a preset to favor one protein conformation against the other (despite higher activation energy), specific affinity to certain optical configuration etc. and so "natural selection" has a set of prerequisites.

We have a consensus that it produces non-random results.

With more understanding of the system, it could be said "predictable based on the scientific laws".

Who set these laws or it appeared per chance?

Who said there was a 'who'. There is a difference between scientific laws and man made laws. Scientific laws a descriptive, while man made laws man made.

For describing what happens doesn't mean there is a 'who' behind it. That is doing two logical fallacies. One is the logical fallacy of equivocation, and the other of begging the question.

[Ooberman]

Man did not descend from the primates.

Did humans descend from other primates?
Are humans primates or should there be special biological taxonomy for humanity?
Please cite evidence.

I'm at a loss as to what else they could have descended from? Cats?
What else could we be if not primates? Cats?
Evidence: we dont have nines lives, so we aint cats.

Let me guess, some ignorant religious guy said something 5000 years ago and someone thonks that man was a genius... Is that why this is a question?

[Clownboat]

Hence, it covers both properties as you describes.
Isn't it amazing to see such neat codes in all living organisms? The codes are not found in dead rocks, metal alloys, crystallines, etc., but even the smallest living organisms are controlled by the same programming language.
Just wondering if it all comes by chance.

I's not really a code, but rather chemistry that allows cause protiens to form in specific shapes. It is partly change, but it is chance that has what is known as a 'filter' applied so there are non-random results. That filter is known as 'natural selection'.

Chemistry also follows a strict set of predetermined laws. The number of electrons per layer, fermions per quantum states etc, are rules-of-the-game preset to keep the universe in order. The "filter" is also a preset to favor one protein conformation against the other (despite higher activation energy), specific affinity to certain optical configuration etc. and so "natural selection" has a set of prerequisites.

We have a consensus that it produces non-random results.

With more understanding of the system, it could be said "predictable based on the scientific laws".

Who set these laws or it appeared per chance?

Perhaps the same person that created this pothole that I'm looking at that just perfectly holds the rain water from this morning?

It's a miracle!

I suppose it's possible that the processes are just there for life to fill the universe (or at least earth) and that the pothole is just there and water filled it.

[Mugview]

Man did not descend from the primates.

Did humans descend from other primates?
Are humans primates or should there be special biological taxonomy for humanity?
Please cite evidence.

I'm at a loss as to what else they could have descended from? Cats?
What else could we be if not primates? Cats?
Evidence: we dont have nines lives, so we aint cats.

Let me guess, some ignorant religious guy said something 5000 years ago and someone thonks that man was a genius... Is that why this is a question?

I guess the question is more towards
"Did humans descend from humans or simians?"

There are obvious differences between humans and simians.

Taxonomists may classify humans and simians into primates, but anthropologists would insist that they deal with humans differently from simians.

Some humans may feel they descend from apes, some insist that their ancestors were humans not apes. Actually it sounds insulting in some cultures to say "your ancestors were apes".

In a strictly scientific forum, it is fine to use accepted taxonomy to discuss about humans in the primate groups.

The same things can be said for animals. Can an elephant descend from a cow, or that a giraffe from a deer?

[Ooberman]

Man did not descend from the primates.

Did humans descend from other primates?
Are humans primates or should there be special biological taxonomy for humanity?
Please cite evidence.

I'm at a loss as to what else they could have descended from? Cats?
What else could we be if not primates? Cats?
Evidence: we dont have nines lives, so we aint cats.

Let me guess, some ignorant religious guy said something 5000 years ago and someone thonks that man was a genius... Is that why this is a question?

I guess the question is more towards
"Did humans descend from humans or simians?"

There are obvious differences between humans and simians.

Taxonomists may classify humans and simians into primates, but anthropologists would insist that they deal with humans differently from simians.

Some humans may feel they descend from apes, some insist that their ancestors were humans not apes. Actually it sounds insulting in some cultures to say "your ancestors were apes".

In a strictly scientific forum, it is fine to use accepted taxonomy to discuss about humans in the primate groups.

The same things can be said for animals. Can an elephant descend from a cow, or that a giraffe from a deer?

This appears to be a question best asked on a science forum, or by a science source. Im not clear why its being asked since with a little research the answer can be found.

Maybe interested parties can check the wiki page on human evolution?

As i understand, humans and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor that was not a human or monkey. Humans are part of the ape branch, but im not sure about monkeys...
Anyhow, if someone asked me the R-value of stone, id go to a source that could best answer it, not ask for opinions.
Human evolution is known and there are extensive resources that could answer the OP.

[wiploc]

As i understand, humans and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor that was not a human or monkey.

We have lots of common ancestors that are neither humans nor monkeys. Bluegreen algae, for instance.

The most recent common ancestor of humans and other currently-existing monkeys was a monkey.

Humans are part of the ape branch, but im not sure about monkeys...

Humans are apes. Apes are monkeys.

[Goat]

As i understand, humans and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor that was not a human or monkey.

We have lots of common ancestors that are neither humans nor monkeys. Bluegreen algae, for instance.

The most recent common ancestor of humans and other currently-existing monkeys was a monkey.

Humans are part of the ape branch, but im not sure about monkeys...

Humans are apes. Apes are monkeys.

No, Apes are primates, as are monkeys'. But, the difference between a monkey and an ape is a tail

[Ooberman]

Thousand words...


Has the OP been answered?

[Mugview]

I guess the question is more towards
"Did humans descend from humans or simians?"

There are obvious differences between humans and simians.

Taxonomists may classify humans and simians into primates, but anthropologists would insist that they deal with humans differently from simians.

Some humans may feel they descend from apes, some insist that their ancestors were humans not apes. Actually it sounds insulting in some cultures to say "your ancestors were apes".

In a strictly scientific forum, it is fine to use accepted taxonomy to discuss about humans in the primate groups.

This appears to be a question best asked on a science forum, or by a science source. Im not clear why its being asked since with a little research the answer can be found.

Maybe interested parties can check the wiki page on human evolution?

As i understand, humans and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor that was not a human or monkey. Humans are part of the ape branch, but im not sure about monkeys...
Anyhow, if someone asked me the R-value of stone, id go to a source that could best answer it, not ask for opinions.
Human evolution is known and there are extensive resources that could answer the OP.

It is postulated that humans and monkeys may have evolved from a common ancestor, by a series of speculations, but with no strong evidence yet. Many, who are not directly involved in the research on human evolution, are generally made to believe that the statement is "proven". However, it is not correct. Scientists tried to cover huge gaps of missing information with some assumptions, which were also speculations and highly debatable.

This so-called common ancestors are still unknown today, and their description keeps changing. Even the closest one, the so-called common ancestor of chimpanzee and human, previously thought to be chimp-like, lately was doubted, and may not resemble chimps as much as humans.

http://phys.org/news/2013-12-human-ance ... ought.html

The pathway from an "ancestor" to either simians or humans is not as direct as many would have liked to believe. The genetic mutations and stabilization leading to the branching are still murky and cannot be easily explained.
For example, more than 30% of the entire chimp Y chromosome has no counterpart in humans.

Hughes JF, Page D, et al (2010) “Chimpanzee and human Y chromosomes are remarkably divergent in structure and gene content�; Nature 463:536-539.

Thus, the diagram of primate evolution considerably simplifies the problem, pulling the lines while lacking most of the dots to connect them.

[Clownboat]

I guess the question is more towards
"Did humans descend from humans or simians?"

There are obvious differences between humans and simians.

Taxonomists may classify humans and simians into primates, but anthropologists would insist that they deal with humans differently from simians.

Some humans may feel they descend from apes, some insist that their ancestors were humans not apes. Actually it sounds insulting in some cultures to say "your ancestors were apes".

In a strictly scientific forum, it is fine to use accepted taxonomy to discuss about humans in the primate groups.

This appears to be a question best asked on a science forum, or by a science source. Im not clear why its being asked since with a little research the answer can be found.

Maybe interested parties can check the wiki page on human evolution?

As i understand, humans and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor that was not a human or monkey. Humans are part of the ape branch, but im not sure about monkeys...
Anyhow, if someone asked me the R-value of stone, id go to a source that could best answer it, not ask for opinions.
Human evolution is known and there are extensive resources that could answer the OP.

It is postulated that humans and monkeys may have evolved from a common ancestor, by a series of speculations, but with no strong evidence yet. Many, who are not directly involved in the research on human evolution, are generally made to believe that the statement is "proven". However, it is not correct. Scientists tried to cover huge gaps of missing information with some assumptions, which were also speculations and highly debatable.

This so-called common ancestors are still unknown today, and their description keeps changing. Even the closest one, the so-called common ancestor of chimpanzee and human, previously thought to be chimp-like, lately was doubted, and may not resemble chimps as much as humans.

http://phys.org/news/2013-12-human-ance ... ought.html

The pathway from an "ancestor" to either simians or humans is not as direct as many would have liked to believe. The genetic mutations and stabilization leading to the branching are still murky and cannot be easily explained.
For example, more than 30% of the entire chimp Y chromosome has no counterpart in humans.

Hughes JF, Page D, et al (2010) “Chimpanzee and human Y chromosomes are remarkably divergent in structure and gene content�; Nature 463:536-539.

Thus, the diagram of primate evolution considerably simplifies the problem, pulling the lines while lacking most of the dots to connect them.

Title of the OP:
Did humans descend from other primates?

Sorry to break it to you, but apes are primates (so are monkeys for that matter).

Your link seems to support the OP and I doubt that was your motive.