The Afterlife: Where do we go when we die?

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The Afterlife: Where do we go when we die?

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Hello everybody.

So concerning the afterlife. Did you know that when the soul leaves the body after God makes the final decree. That we in FACT do NOT go to "Heaven".........

First let's break down Heaven, Gods Heaven and mans Heaven. Theres only 3 stages of Heaven.

1: The Highest Heaven where God sits on his throne and Christ on his right hand and the Angels come to and fro the Earth to Heaven to worship God and converse with him about the people in Earth. This particular Heaven, NO MAN has been to, other then Enoch.

No man goes here when they die, put it that way. Its not for man. The Earth is.

John 3:13 (KJV)

13: And no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Now obviously Christ is referring to ascending there as in no man has ascended there after death because Enoch did in fact be transported to Heaven while he was living and was before God, the Cheribums and everything else that's Glorious up there. So Christ must be referring to the afterlife because the Bible does not contradict itself.

now the 2nd Heaven is actually outter space aka "the heavens".....God created the
"heavens" (outter space) and the EARTH.

The Earth is spinning in heaven.

And the 3rd heaven is the Kingdom of God which will be established right here on his glorious Earth. Where Christ will reign as King over all, sitting in throne of David and with his people the Israelites, those of the seed of Israel that obtain salvation will inherit New Jerusalem. For that land is the Israelites land and none else. It's specifically land thats promised from God to the children of Israel, they will inherit it and dwell in it. This is why theres only 12 gates on this city.


Revelation 21:10-14 (KJV)

10: And he carried me (John the revelator) away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, 11: Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; 12: And had a wall great and high, and had "twelve gates", and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the "twelve tribes of the children of Israel": 13: On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates. 14: And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb."

So this is New Jerusalem is for the Children of Israel. Many ask, why are there only 12 gates on the city and the names are of the children of Israel? Well that answers simple. Its because this city belongs to the Israelites. They got kicked out of the promised land for sin but because God loved them and sent Christ to save them, they will inherit their land again and will never be driven out of it. If you're not of Israel you will not get to inherit this land as in live in it. That don't mean that you wont be in the Kingdom though and it doesn't mean that you will not get to visit the holy City. ALL NATIONS will visit the holy city but the Israelites will live there.

The only way the gentiles however will get to go into the city is on the holy days to worship and to serve the Israelites for as it is written.

Isaiah 14:1-2

1: "For the Lord will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel (the Israelites), and set them in their own land: and the strangers (Gentiles) shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob (Israelites).
2: And the people (Israelites) shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess (own) them in the land of the Lord (Jerusalem) for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives (slaves), whose captives (slaves) they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors."

So, yes, there will be slavery in the Kingdom of God. This is prophecy of the kingdom to come to Earth. Especially from the nations that afflicted and done much evil to the Israelites.

And those of the gentiles that do not comply with this order will receive judgment for as it is written.

Isaiah 60:10-14

10 And the sons of strangers (Gentiles) shall build up your walls, and their kings shall minister (serve) unto you (Israelites): for in my wrath I smote you (Israelites), but in my favor have I had mercy on you (Israelites).
11: "Therefore your (Israelites) gates shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night; that men (gentiles) may bring unto you (Israelites) the forces (riches) of the Gentiles, and that their kings may be brought.
12: For the nation and kingdom that will NOT serve you (Israelites) shall perish; yea, those nations (gentiles) shall be utterly wasted.
13: The glory of Lebanon shall come unto you, the fir tree, the pine tree, and the box together, to beautify the place of my sanctuary; and I will make the place of my feet glorious.
14: The sons (gentiles) also of them that afflicted you (Israelites) shall come bending unto you (Israelites); and all they that despised you (Israelites) shall bow themselves down at the soles of your feet; and they shall call you (Israelites); The city of the Lord, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel."

Thats pretty much the same as Isaiah 14. and heres some judgments the nations (gentiles) can look forward to if they do not follow the protocol and the order of this new Kingdom.


Zechariah 14:16-19

16: And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations (gentiles) which came against Jerusalem (Israelites) shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts (Christ), and to keep the feast of tabernacles (High Holy Day). 17: And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families (gentiles) of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts (Christ), even upon them shall be no rain. 18: And if the family of Egypt (Egyptians) go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen (gentiles) that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. 19: This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles."

God used the Egyptians as an example there. He says any nation (race) that comes not up to Jerusalem to worship Christ will receive no rain in their land. No rain means no food, dry land. all bad. And he says if he smites their land with no rain and they still refuse, then he will smite them. Which means kill them. Just like Isaiah 60 said, if they don't serve Christ and the Israelites will perish and be utterly wasted.

This is the kingdom of God, there will be order and the gentiles will have to obey or die. The Israelites don't have to worry about this because they will be IN Jerusalem already because they will live there. This shows you that the gentile nations make it into this kingdom, they will live in the Earth and be appointed their own land from God to dwell in. But you better bring your behind up for the Holy Days to pay your respects to Christ and his people or you will receive judgments. This will be the protocol of the Kingdom of God for 1,000 years because thats how long Christ will have dominion over the Earth before God renews creation and does the final judgment.

I'm getting ready to talk about the afterlife in a minute, I just want to clear up what Heaven on Earth will be.

Now in case you didn't know? God really only cares about one nation of people in the Earth, the people he chose who are the Israelites according to the flesh.


Deuteronomy 7:6
(Gods words to the Israelites)

6: "For you are an holy people unto the Lord your God: the Lord your God has chosen you to be a special people unto himself, ABOVE all people that are upon the face of the earth."

God chose the seed of Israel, they are special to him and he set them above all the nations in the Earth. Period.

If you're wondering how he feels about the gentiles/heathen/strangers/nations, the true none Israelite people? Because believe it or not, the "gentiles" That the disciples taught and Paul wrote to in the new testament are referring to the Israelite gentiles who were cut off from the God and the family inheritance because of previous captivities. Like the Greek captivity you read about in the Book of 1 Maccabees found in the Apocrypha. Israelites were referring to themselves as Greeks in ignorance because they were under the captivity of the Grecians and were forced to conform to their manners or die. Many Israelites fell for it and gave up up their God and sacrificed to idols and became gentiles. And generation after generation, the children grow up in the captivity and practicing the customs and are lost....aka "the lost sheep of the house of Israel" Gentile Israelites. But thats for another whole subject, I don't want to digress.

Natural born gentiles, this is how God feels about them.


Isaiah 40:15-17

15 "Behold, the nations (gentiles/heathens) are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he (gentiles) takes up the isles (islands) as a very little thing.
16 And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, nor the beasts thereof sufficient for a burnt offering.
17 All nations (Gentiles) before him are as NOTHING; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity."

So really God can careless about the gentile nations according to that chapter he counts them as less then nothing. Thats pretty bad.

and the Apocrypha testifies to this as well

2 Esdras 6:53-56

53: Upon the sixth day you gave commandment unto the earth, that before you it should bring forth beasts, cattle, and creeping things:
54: And after these, Adam also, whom thou made lord of all your creatures: of him come we all, AND the people (Israelites) also whom you have chosen.
55: All this have I spoken before you, O Lord, because you made the world for our (Israelites) sakes
56: As for the other people, which also come of Adam, you have said that they are NOTHING, but be like unto SPITTLE (Spit): and have likened the abundance (multitude) of them unto a drop that falls from a vessel (bucket).

Same thing as Isaiah 40. Theres a separation between the Israelites and all the other nations. Now the rest of that chapter Esdra is asking the Lord why that the heathens, the nations hes always called nothing, why were they lords over Gods people, the Israelites? This was during their Greek captivity. Israelites are suppose to rule the nations and be above them but because of their sin against their Gods commands? They were punished and they ended up losing all that power, however through Christ they will get that power back if they repent.

This is Heaven. Christ rules over all in Jerusalem. The Israelites that have repented and have accepted Christ as their savior and keep his commandments until the end will inherit New JERUSALEM and power over ALL the nations and the earth. for as it is written concerning the Israelites


Deuteronomy 11:22-25

22: "For if you (Israelites) shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him; 23: Then will the LORD drive out all these nations (gentiles) from before you, and you shall possess (own) greater nations and mightier than yourselves. 24: Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours: from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be. 25: There shall no man (gentile nation) be able to stand before you: for the LORD your God shall lay the fear of you and the dread of you upon all the land that you shall tread upon, as he has said unto you."

Again they lost that power but when Christ returns they will get it back.

Also concerning the 144,000 of the children of Israel, 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes. These Israelites who are sealed in the last days before destruction comes to earth and ends the world (as we know it) as in, the powers that be shall fall, the governments shall fall and the kingdoms shall fall and Christ shall destroy and then establish the KINGDOM of God, The true NEW WORLD ORDER of righteousness.

Those 144,000 will be set up as the the new worlds government. Thats why God said to the angels of destruction that will send the spirit into the world that will start armageddon and all hell breaking lose. He told them, wait a minute. Hurt not the earth until theres 144,000 sealed of the Israelites first. Because Christ can't return until his government is ready. This government is not inclusive to all people. Only Israelites, 12,000 from each tribe.

So by that, yes it does matter who you are (but thats for another subject as well)


Now that we got most of the order of Kingdom of God coming to Earth, out of the way. Now lets deal with before the resurrection and 2nd coming. Lets deal with the afterlife.

What happens to our souls when they leave our bodies. Well there is 2 places the lord has that holds the souls of the righteous and the unrighteous.

The place where the righteous go is called the Bosom of Abraham. It is a peaceful place of rest with the other righteous souls, the souls of the prophets, the disciples, the apostles and all the other people that have obtained salvation. Christ touches on the Bosom of Abraham in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man.

The Apocrypha in 2nd Esdra 7 goes more in detail about the place for the righteous. And the complete works of Josephus also Confirms it. But lets start with 2 Esdras 7.

2 Esdras 7:78 "Now concerning death, the teaching is: When the decisive decree has gone out from the Most High that a person shall die, as the spirit leaves the body to return again to him who gave it, first of all it adores the glory of the Most High"

Now it goes into the ones that have scorn Gods commandments first, but since s started with the righteous i'm going to post what happens to them first.


2 Esdra 7:88-99

88 “Now this is the order of those who have kept the ways of the Most High, when they shall be separated from their mortal body. 89. During the time that they lived in it, they laboriously served the Most High, and withstood danger every hour so that they might keep the law of the Lawgiver perfectly. 90. Therefore this is the teaching concerning them: 91. First of all, they shall see with great joy the glory of him who receives them, for they shall have rest in seven orders. 92. The first order, because they have striven with great effort to overcome the evil thought that was formed with them, so that it might not lead them astray from life into death. 93. The second order, because they see the perplexity in which the souls of the ungodly wander and the punishment that awaits them. 94. The third order, they see the witness that he who formed them bears concerning them, that throughout their life they kept the law with which they were entrusted. 95. The fourth order, they understand the rest that they now enjoy, being gathered into their chambers and guarded by angels in profound quiet, and the glory waiting for them in the last days. 96. The fifth order, they rejoice that they have now escaped what is corruptible and shall inherit what is to come; and besides they see the straits and toil from which they have been delivered, and the spacious liberty that they are to receive and enjoy in immortality. 97. The sixth order, when it is shown them how their face is to shine like the sun, and how they are to be made like the light of the stars, being incorruptible from then on. 98. The seventh order, which is greater than all that have been mentioned, because they shall rejoice with boldness, and shall be confident without confusion, and shall be glad without fear, for they press forward to see the face of him whom they served in life and from whom they are to receive their reward when glorified. 99. this is the order of the souls of the righteous"

Now thats the Bosom of ABRAHAM. Thats where you go if you have found salvation.

Now for the unrighteous souls. Not so fun.

2 Esdras 7:79-87

79. "If it is one of those who have shown scorn and have not kept the way of the Most High, who have despised his law and hated those who fear God? 80. Such spirits shall not enter into habitations, but shall immediately wander about in torments, always grieving and sad, in seven ways. 81. The first way, because they have scorned the law of the Most High. 82. The second way, because they cannot now make a good repentance so that they may live. 83. The third way, they shall see the reward laid up for those who have trusted the covenants of the Most High. 84. The fourth way, they shall consider the torment laid up for themselves in the last days. 85. The fifth way, they shall see how the habitations of the others are guarded by angels in profound quiet. 86. The sixth way, they shall see how some of them will cross over into torments. 87. The seventh way, which is worse than all the ways that have been mentioned, because they shall utterly waste away in confusion and be consumed with shame, and shall wither with fear at seeing the glory of the Most High in whose presence they sinned while they were alive, and in whose presence they are to be judged in the last times."

Thats the place of torments. No lake of fire fire yet though. The fire doesn't come until the final judgment day AFTER Christ 1,000 year reign. When Christ returns, the righteous shall be resurrected and receive their rewards but the unrighteous stay in torments and wait for the final judgment, lake of fire aka Hell.


2 Esdras 7:100-101

100: Then I answered and said, “Will time therefore be given to the souls, after they have been separated from the bodies, to see what you have described to me?� 101. He said to me, “They shall have freedom for seven days, so that during these seven days they may see the things of which you have been told, and afterwards they shall be gathered in their habitations.�

So after you die you get 7 days to see all the things God just showed to Esdras before you be brought to your places.

The Jospehus goes more into detail concerning Hades aka Hell.

The Complete works of Josephus. Translated by William Whiston. A.M.

Pg. 976. "Discourse concerning Hades." 4th paragraph

"But as to the unjust, they are dragged by force to the left hand by the angels allotted for punishment, no longer going with a good will, but as prisoners driven by violence; to whom are sent the angels appointed over them to reproach them and threaten them with their terrible looks, and to thrust them still downwards. Now
those angels that are set over these souls, drag them into the neighborhood of Hell itself; Who, when they are hard by it, continually hear the noise of it, and do not stand clear of the hot vapor itself; But when they have a nearer view of this spectacle, as a terrible and exceeding great prospect of fire, they are struck with a fearful expectation of a future judgment, and in effect punished thereby: And not only so, but where they see the place (or choir) of the fathers and of the just, even hereby are they punished; For a chaos deep and large is fixed between them; insomuch that a just man that hath compassion upon them cannot be admitted, nor can one that is unjust if he were bold enough to attempt it, pass over it."

These places (these are my words now not josephus) These places were created and are in the center of the Earth. The book of Enoch testifies to this. As they showed him these things and you can read about it in the Book of Enoch, who was a 7th generation son of Adam and great grandfather of Noah. The lord took him because he was the most righteous and God showed him many wonderous things.

These places are in the belly of the earth. They are chambers, whether peaceful or torments. to hold souls until time be fulfilled and Christ returns. This is where Able went when Cain slew him. And many of the spirits that have been slain for righteous sake that are in the place of rest they ask God to basically get vengeance on the ones that killed them.

The place of rest aka Bosom of Abraham is described in the Josephus as peaceful, its not hot, its not cold. Its perfect weather, like 70 degrees on a beautiful evening. no briers like thorns. Its just perfect and You basically just kick it there with the other righteous people in happiness and joy and look forward to seeing the Lord and receiving all the blessings riches and wealth from him your going to receive in the Kingdom back on Earth. You get resurrected back in immortal bodies made incorruptible. The Bosom of Abraham is paradise. Heaven is the kingdom of God established on Earth. Jerusalem is land for the chosen. The Israelites.

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So keep the commandments in the faith of Christ if you want to find rest. That includes the Sabbath day to keep it Holy. Theres a grave misunderstanding in the Christian church that because Christ died that the commandments were nailed to the cross, thats not true. The only thing Christ did was nail the law of animal sacrifice to the cross. No longer do you have to sacrifice animals to be saved, it was burdensome and the Israelites abused it and did not uphold it the way it was suppose to be upheld. So Christ fulfilled that law, aka completed it. Not abolished it for as it is written.

Matthew 5:17-20
(Christ speaking)

17: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18: For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19: whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so (by mouth or example), he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20: For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven."


Christ said don't even break the least commandments and the SABBATH DAY is certainly not a least commandment as it is very important to God he always says "verily my Sabbaths ye shall keep and not profane them"

Even the dietary law still stands, civil law, marital laws, Gods Holy feast days and not americas "holidays" that are rooted in paganism and breaks the 2 commandment of God of being idolators, this includes christmas and Easter which has nothing to do with God Christ but were created to blend in and mask paganism customs of the heathens. (I know i'm getting pretty deep here) but thats for another subject as well.

Just understand that as christians, God has Holy Days we are to reverance. Why does it seem like they reject his holy days and establish their traditions of men? Doesn't Christ speak on that? That ye full well reject the commandments of God to keep your traditions? God is very serious about his Holy days we are to observe in the faith of Christ. Its a very big deal wit God as he wants NOTHING to do with pagans and we cant take a pagan day throw Christ name on it but keep the customs and force God to accept it? Uhhhh.....it doesn't work that way. And if its not a Holy Day God commanded we keep thats written? Then we shouldn't fool around with it. For its the breaking of the 1st and 2nd commandments.

Repent ye therefor and study, if you truly want to serve God and inherit rest and live? Then God will show you the truth and expose the lies going around in churches and around the world. God does not dwell in temples, he dwells in people who serve him and stick to his word and not make up their own as they go.

So with that being said, I hope you find the truth and God blesses you with wisdom and understanding which starts by keeping Gods commandments and may you repent and turn from the ways of the world and the idolatrous ways and serve the God of Israel may God have mercy on your souls and bless you when you do.

Shalom.

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amptramp wrote: I consider myself a Christian because I believe that Jesus will take on the role he assumes in Matthew 28: he is the gatekeeper who chooses what is to happen to each soul.
There is no separate entity as Jesus. God is Jesus and Jesus is God.

So God would be the gatekeeper and not Jesus. There is no Jesus.

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heaven is not the spirit rhelm. Not the heaven of man. Listen and pay attention good.

heaven is another word for kingdom. The kingdom will be established on EARTH. no spirit rhelm. The Israelites. Those that descend from the 12 tribes of israel. The seed of promise. If theyre naturally born an israelite and they accept christ and keep their Gods commandments. They will RULE the kingdom in righteousness over the nations. all nations aka races.

The Kingdom will be just like life is today, when you walk outside and see what the earth has to offer. Nothing will change. no ghost flying around with halos. Just regular bodies, like today. And Christ and the angels will be here.

Heaven is NOT, I repeat is NOT in space or in another rhelm. not mans heaven. Gods heaven is in another rhelm. He is in the HIGHEST HEAVEN. His throne is there. The angels serve him there. Its probably the most high tech place one can imagine as well. Also Christ sits in his right hand side there as well.

NO MANS SOUL GOES TO WHERE GOD DWELLS!! PERIOD.

It goes under ground into a subterraneous world called the bosom of Abraham and rest there until they are resurrected. The wicked are tormented day and night until the 2nd death final judgment day which comes AFTER the 1000 year christ kingdom.

your body dies and goes back to the dust of the earth where it came from. If your soul gets resurrected then God will bring forth your same body and put the breath of life back into it.

Your body not suppose to die but because of the curse, we must die.

Revelation 20:12-13 KJV

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works."

nothing about new bodies. The same body is resurrected whole. whether mangled, battered, or completely dust. it will form back into what it originally was and life will be put into it. however for the wicked....they gotta die again. God is going to resurrect the wicked just to kill them again, but this time for good because your soul has to be destroyed by fire. Fire is spiritual. And it fully eradicates your soul when ir catches.

Everything wicked from satan, even down to the poor bum that curses God and defiles his body. Theyre all going in the fire for the second death.

but heaven is on earth. No spirit rhelm.

its like today. America, everybody is in subjection to the laws of america. If you break them, you get judged and punished. This is how it will be when christ returns.

Just the government will be ran by Israelites only and Christ. And the law that goes forth will be the laws of God, in which all nations throught the planet earth will be in subjection to or be punished and die.

No democracy, no free will. No free speech. It will be a strict dictatorship in righteousness all over the earth. And where ever the nations dwell at, that nation or race if you will, cuz thats what nation means, your race, your family of people. There will be an israelite king over the cities you live in in the earth. So you cant run. The whole earth will be under subjection to the laws of God enforced by the israelites. And the angels will be the kings armies, they will be the ones that puts one to death for disobedience.

So its all set up already. And the israelites will havw FULL power over the earth to rule all races according to Gods law and bring everyone into subjection to christ and the Most High God.

This is what the nations ruling today, fear. Because thry like getting away with doing evil. Well in christ kingdom its going to be no non sense, if they want to continue living and make it to the eternal kingdom. Then they be in subject an operate accordingly. if not, then off with their heads and the lake of fire they will get.

This is the kingdom of Heaven on Earth. Theyre way off on the teaching of the kingdom in these so called churches....wayyyy off.

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[Replying to post 31 by Donray]

God is God and Christ is Christ. They are separate. That jesus is God stuff is pagan rooted. They operate as one, but they are not the same. The holy spirir is the wird, Christ is the living sacrifice and savior of Israel and God is the father and creator of all. Heres proof they are not the same.


Daniel 7:9-14 KJV

"I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days (God the Father) did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened. I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast (Esau) was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame. As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time. (The kingdom) I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man (Christ) came with the clouds (chariots/ufos) of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days (God the father), and they brought him near before him. And there was given him (Christ) dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."

You see. the son of man (christ) came to ancient of days (God) and the ancient of Days gave the son of man his dominion. Proving that they are seperare entities.

again the jesus is God theory is pagan rooted. do the research. And deals with the worshiping of ancient pagan gods.

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Collin88 wrote: [Replying to Donray]

heaven is not the spirit rhelm. Not the heaven of man. Listen and pay attention good.

heaven is another word for kingdom. The kingdom will be established on EARTH. no spirit rhelm. The Israelites. Those that descend from the 12 tribes of israel. The seed of promise. If theyre naturally born an israelite and they accept christ and keep their Gods commandments. They will RULE the kingdom in righteousness over the nations. all nations aka races.

The Kingdom will be just like life is today, when you walk outside and see what the earth has to offer. Nothing will change. no ghost flying around with halos. Just regular bodies, like today. And Christ and the angels will be here.

Heaven is NOT, I repeat is NOT in space or in another rhelm. not mans heaven. Gods heaven is in another rhelm. He is in the HIGHEST HEAVEN. His throne is there. The angels serve him there. Its probably the most high tech place one can imagine as well. Also Christ sits in his right hand side there as well.

NO MANS SOUL GOES TO WHERE GOD DWELLS!! PERIOD.

It goes under ground into a subterraneous world called the bosom of Abraham and rest there until they are resurrected. The wicked are tormented day and night until the 2nd death final judgment day which comes AFTER the 1000 year christ kingdom.

your body dies and goes back to the dust of the earth where it came from. If your soul gets resurrected then God will bring forth your same body and put the breath of life back into it.

Your body not suppose to die but because of the curse, we must die.

Revelation 20:12-13 KJV

"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works."

nothing about new bodies. The same body is resurrected whole. whether mangled, battered, or completely dust. it will form back into what it originally was and life will be put into it. however for the wicked....they gotta die again. God is going to resurrect the wicked just to kill them again, but this time for good because your soul has to be destroyed by fire. Fire is spiritual. And it fully eradicates your soul when ir catches.

Everything wicked from satan, even down to the poor bum that curses God and defiles his body. Theyre all going in the fire for the second death.

but heaven is on earth. No spirit rhelm.

its like today. America, everybody is in subjection to the laws of america. If you break them, you get judged and punished. This is how it will be when christ returns.

Just the government will be ran by Israelites only and Christ. And the law that goes forth will be the laws of God, in which all nations throught the planet earth will be in subjection to or be punished and die.

No democracy, no free will. No free speech. It will be a strict dictatorship in righteousness all over the earth. And where ever the nations dwell at, that nation or race if you will, cuz thats what nation means, your race, your family of people. There will be an israelite king over the cities you live in in the earth. So you cant run. The whole earth will be under subjection to the laws of God enforced by the israelites. And the angels will be the kings armies, they will be the ones that puts one to death for disobedience.

So its all set up already. And the israelites will havw FULL power over the earth to rule all races according to Gods law and bring everyone into subjection to christ and the Most High God.

This is what the nations ruling today, fear. Because thry like getting away with doing evil. Well in christ kingdom its going to be no non sense, if they want to continue living and make it to the eternal kingdom. Then they be in subject an operate accordingly. if not, then off with their heads and the lake of fire they will get.

This is the kingdom of Heaven on Earth. Theyre way off on the teaching of the kingdom in these so called churches....wayyyy off.
So, God will provide movies, TV, sports. etc?

Will you have a job for eternity such as working in a fast food joint?

Can you have sex with any one you want that is willing?

Will woman have babies for eternity?

Will everyone have the same level of knowledge?

Hope you respond to these so we may have a logical discussion instead of just stuff from the bible that answers none of these questions. from the bible.

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dude....one last time. Heaven is a metaphor for a top seat of authority. it is for the children of israel according to the flesh who are in christ, to inherit.

all it is is a new order in the earth. You wont be eternal in this kingdom. the gift of eternal life is only for the children of israel, not all nations. And eternal life means an everlasting kingdom of power rulership slaves and authority. That seat belongs ONLY to Christ and children of israel that repent of their sins and accept him.

God chose the seed of israel to rule his creation. including all other races that are not born of the seed of jacob. heaven is a metaphor, the kingdom is real. it will be established here on earth. not in a spirit rhelm dude, get your mind out the unbiblical imaginations.

yes, there will be sex in the kingdom, you will eat, drink, have children and all that. just like you do today. only thing that will be different is that ALL nations will be forced to be subservient to the laws of God in that day and serve the children of israel or die......now does that sound like immortality to you? no it doesnt.

as for movies and stuff? hell, idk. more then likely because caucasians will be the children of israels personal servant so im sure they will entertain them in some capacity.

yes you will work. matter fact God will give you a perpetual employment. there wont be not one gentile without a job of some kind. you will be a working servant to build up the land of israel again and jerusalem after it gets desolate during armageddon, because the children of israel wont have to work ever again if they dont want to. this kingdom of heaven is THEIR rest, not yours. You will live in it but you will serve in it and serve them in it and youll only continue to live in it if you continue to serve and shut your mouth, other wisse become a victim of isaiah 60. and perish for your revolt. that means get put to deatu, so no, you wont be immortal.

This kingdom will last 1000 years before God renews creation. And does his final judgment. Yes, you will have wives, sex, babies, eat, poop, pee, drink, run, laugh, cry all that in this kingdom to come. everything we do now, will be in the kingdom to come. as long as its in line with the laws of God. we all will do. Sex is necessary. how else is the world going to repopulate in 1000 years, because after the coming judgment, roughly 6 billion people will be either murdered in the war or slaughtered personally by christ and the angels when they show up in the middle of the war.

so it wont be many humans left in the earth. Roughly 1 billion or so. and almost half of them will be of the children of israel, and there will only be a small remnant of the gentile nations left after the destruction. So repopulation is necessary.

sex is apart of man. Its going nowhere. What the hell else do you expect a woman to do in the kingdom? whats her purpose if shes not barring mans children and serving him? God crrated womam for man. not to sit on their lazy behinds and do nothing lol.

you will have families, kids, wives, you will work, you will serve, you will worship God in jerusalem and bow down to and reverance the children of israel when you encounter them. all these things is what you can expect when the kingdom is established. keyword ESTABLISHED...

the kingdoms today have to fall. that means the government and power structures, the militaries, the bombs, the guns, the satalites, the f.b.i. the c.i.a the police force. ALL OF IT will be stripped away from thw nations in power today, and once its stripped which christ will do himself. then the kingdom of heaven shall be established and built and it shall be built by the gentiles, and since christ and the angels will be here. the gentiles will have no power to revolt against the new world order and government that will be established with the children of israel in righteousness aka according to whatever God allows is righteous.

if the enslavement of an entire race is going to happen in the kingdom, that means its righteous and just. because the enslavement will be for vengeance and justice sake.

bottom line if you desire to live? fear God and bless his people and follow the laws of God that he may have mercy on you in the day of judgment and you may live and not be slaughtered to death. id rather be a servant in a righteous kingdom and bow to Gods people so i can live and still enjoy the good things in life like food, family, laughter and many such things and work to earn my keep by building up their deserved kingdom for all the hell theyve been put through. rather then have pride and refuse and be utterly wasted.

Isaiah 60:11-12 KJV

"Therefore thy gates shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night; that men (gentiles) may bring unto you the forces of the Gentiles, and that their kings may be brought. For the nation and kingdom that will NOT serve you shall perish; yea, those nations (gentiles) shall be utterly wasted."

so thats the reward for refusing to serve in the kingdom. thats the catch. You can live, you have families and enjoy life but you have to submit and serve the children of israel and their land to sustain it.

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Your heaven is racist. I take that you actually a Muslim pretending to believe in the bible.

Why are you and your god a racist?

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Collin88 wrote:Where do we go when we die?
Ecclesiastes 3:19-20 wrote:For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

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Im in israelite from the tribe of Judah. A descendant of the negroe slave trade which was a curse put on us by our God for breaking the covenant. These curses had to come to pass and our people had to be completely destroyed and consumed then a mystery man of sin first had to be revealed then the end shall come and then Christ will return and deliver my people Negroes/hispanics/native indians. the children of israel in the flesh. He will redeem our peoples and united us one strong nation over all nations. And we will rule the new world with Christ as our King.

My God is "racist" because your people are wicked and ungodly. the caucasian romans took the word of God and changed it into an conclusive, God loves all people, jesus is white, lets celebrate satanic pagan chritmas and easter, and all be homosexuals and lesbians, lie.

All the nations is the earth have their own gods. Thats more respectable with the God of Israel then taking his words and lying on them to gain control and power over the earth. why wouldnt God be racist and angry towards the seed which done that?

im no muslim!!!! thats a bunch of plagerised crap from my Gods words. pay attention closely. its the ARAB descendants of Ishmael, religion. Mohammed tried to give his people something to help civilize them and better there people. He studied the jews and how they conducted themselves in their service of God. what mohammed did was take the commandnents of God and make up his own religion basically to try and incoorporate the arab nation (ishmaelites) into the blessing of Isaac who had jacob and his seed becane the Israelites, the sons of God in the earth.

Ishmael didnt get that blessing from God. Ishmael waa born of an egyptian concubine maidservant, Hagar. From Abrahams seed. But it wasnt according to Gods plan, it was according to Sarah, Abrahams wife, Plan.

God had different plans. Sarah jumped the gun because she lacked faith that she could deliver Abraham a much deserved seed. So long story short told him to sleep with Hagar, and she did conceive ehich ended up being Ishmael. Because Ishmael was of Abrahams seed. God did bless his descendants, but he did not CHOOSE his descendants to be HIS special people in the earth.

Ishmael does not have a covenant with God. Only the seed of Israel do. Ishmael was blessed to be a power nation and a prosperous which they are today. But in the end they too will be subjects to the Israelites when the Kingdom of God is established. And their made up religion of allah and plagerised commandments and made up scriptures will be destroyed and they will serve the God of Israel by the Israelites commands.

Just as all nations will be judged and and idols destroyed and will ALL come into subjection to the God of Israel and since God CHOSE Israel, Israel is his right hand power in the earth and those of the seed that keep the covenant with their God and accept Jesus the new covenant. will be granted resurrection from the dead, eternal life and authority to rule all nations and judge them and get them in subjection to the laws of God, the worship of God and will also serve the children of Israel.
Its not racist, its called world order. And God just so happened for righteous and just reasons to Choose Israel to control the world order, and also be unlimitedly wealthy and propsperous as a people.

We had that power once, way back some thousands of years ago in the days of King Saul, King David, King Solomon. Until they generations started really going off and forsaking the covenant. So God keeping his word was forced to curse them from their seat of power, and eventually allowed them to fall and be subject to all nations theyre suppose to be ruling.

Which is why today the negroes in america, haiti ans west indies and the hispanic tribes and native indian tribes are they way they are today, poor and oppressed as a people, under neath their arch enemy nations foot, yes, the so called white man. Its not racist its truth. Didnt not they conquer the negroes? didnt not they conquer the hispanics? didnt not they conquer the Indians?

would a friend do that? or would a fierce enemy do that? is that a racist assessment or factual? the spaniard caucasians conquered all the indigenous hispanic tribes of central and south america. Thats evident by their language they speak now, their sur names and their religion. The white man did that to these tribes. Starting with Columbus. When they conquered and enslaved them they forced them to be catholics, accept their renaissance era, new world white cesare borgia roman caucasian jesus. Or die!....Thats why many of the hispanics are catholic today. They stripped them of the hebrew they originally spoke and taught them spanish, and took away their hebrew names and gave them spanish sur names.

the white man.....Not racist. Thats facts. Its racist to conquer a whole race and their land and then take their heritage away and make them become apart of your culture and then tell them THEYRE racist if they dont love you and get over it. THATS racist. And you say, oh you werent there so get over it, you never had to suffer like they did. True, we didnt suffer PHYSICALLY like they did but today we suffer mentally. Which in a way is WORSE because at least back then our ancestors KNEW who the enemy were and what their heritage was and went out fighting for it. Today? we dont know who the enemy is, we think they are our friends. But the elite powers of their people have indoctrinated the world with lies, including decieving their own people.

Which is worse for you and Have secretly and cunningly conspired and consulted to keep our generations of my people asleep from the truth of our ancestors and the knowledge that were in fact the sons of God in the earth. Thus keeping us in the midst of sin and in continuance generation after generation of breaking our spiritual covenant with our God and keeping us away from redemption and salvation.

So ask yourself now? Whats worse? a physical beating or a spiritual soul stealing crafty beating? And now weigh if we suffer today or not.

You have no idea whats going on, the elites have your people doen here on my peoples level totally brainwashed and confused. And in your ignorance you will perish. Especially since youve developed a funky spirit of pride and Our God hates pride on any man if it turns them away from doing whats righteous.

As for your people. The descendants of the ones that conquered Gods people and still has their foot on their throats today? Theres a righteous penalty you all will have to pay. Youre not innocent. Why? because youve been programmed, indoctrinated in poisnous doctrines and theorys and theologies and you believe them and spread them around causing more wickedness and decit in the earth. Then when the truth comes out you ignorantly blaspheme Gods name by persecuting his people calling them racist when theyre just bringing out the facts.

So you dig a deeper whole for judgment. If I was you id concede defeat and quit while youre ahead. You wanna know what the spanish caucasian sorcerers said when they realized the indigenous peoples they emcountered in america were the children of Israel? its from the book "the lost tribes and promised lands: the origins of american racism. pay attention good.

"The following is what happened to Antonio Montezinos (a Spanish explorer), when he visited the Seminole Indians in the mountains of Quito, prior to their migration to Florida. The passage contains what was told to him by the Seminoles, concerning their identity, and the identity of their brothers located in Puerto Rico and Cuba. This information is found in “Lost Tribes and Promised Lands�, by Ronald Sanders on page 363-365.

“Upon hearing her words they rose, went over to Montezinos and, to his utter astonishment, said: “Shema, Yisroel, Adonai Elohenu Adonai Ehod� (Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One�). They had recited, in Hebrew, the fundamental credo of Judaism.�

“They told him that they were themselves of the tribe of Reuben, and that the tribe of Joseph lived on an island nearby.�

“Only the sorcerers of his tribe had perceived that they were a "special people", and had given warning that they should be left alone. “The God of these children of Israel is the true God,� they had said, “and everything inscribed on their tablets is true. At the end of days, they will be lords of all the nations of the earth. One nation will come bringing many things to this land, and after "we have all been provided for", these "children of Israel" will go forth from where they now are and reign over the whole earth, as they once did".

And you call me racist. all through out the bible God is addressing only the children of Israel. The name is mentioned over 2,450 times in the bible and i dont even think thats counting the apocrypha books that were taken out of the bible in the 1700s. From the birth of Jacob, to the enslaving in egypt for 400 years, to the exodus, to mount sinai where they received Gods commandments and he spoke the spiritual covenant to them face to face. To the conquering of the lands with Joshua to establish the israelites promised land by God and the holy city Jerusalem. To the original kingdom of God on earth for Israel, to their sin and disobedients and fall from grace, their split of the nation into 2 kingdoms and 2 nations at war with eachother killing eachother for centuries as a result of a curse.

To the prophets that prophesied about the last days, the kingdom to come, prophesied about christ coming to save israel of their sins before their God. The destruction of the earth and judgment to the nations outside of israel and even on israel at the last days.

To jesus showing up during the roman caucaisans reign over their land and trying to spread the gospel to the israelites and the gentile israelites that were cut off by God from the family due to much idolatry and wickedness. And christ trying to establish the jews of the the southern kingdom of israel with the gospel first, fulfilling zechariah 12:7 That God would save the tents of the tribe of Judah first. To christ death and reaurrection and the mission of his disciples and apostles he left with the holy spirit to bring together the unity of all israel in his name and form the church. Grafting in the ten tribes that were broken off of the northern kingdom of israel.

To the casting out john the revelator to isle of patmos and there was revealed the image of christ, and the end of the world. promises for israel. Its all about the israelites through the whole bible. The nations are just supporting villian cast in the movie and Esau the white man is the arch villain and agent for satan the higher power they have to worship to sustain their wicked world power. But God will show his all mighty power and his existense through his people the children of israel in the last days by waking them up even after they looked like they were dead and gone spiritually. But his truth trumps all, exposes all and all things come to light because of it, and through it, and the power of christ and his gospel and the coming together in unity with him as their goal and focus, their will rise up a remnant of the children of israel through the power of God and they shall obtain salvation and be redeemed to their rightful place and kingdom thats righteous and inspired by God.

We will never lose our power again. We will never be plucked out of our land, because we will no longer sin and therefor God can only bless us forever. And we will be immortalized as a people and reign over all nations as the sons of the living God on earth and be kings and judges.

Your people will be put in their rightful place as servants of ours as servants and handmaids aka concubines. In our lands. Your people will never have their own land again to rule over and get power in the earth. Gods anger against you will not allow you to escape from our grasp as our slaves. And its righteous and just judgment for all the evil your people have done in route to an ungodly and never inspired by God kingdom.

So its bound to fall anytime soon. Armageddon with destroy your people and all people in the earth that are wicked. Including israel that refuse to repent. They will suffer first the judgments. The earth will be destroyed by nuclear destruction when the nations bomb eachother pissed at eachother. And the vast majoritu of all humanity will be wiped out in the war and the nuclear bombs which is the 2nd death of the earth, the lake of fire. Only small remnants of each nation including yours will survive the bombs but all of you remnant that miraculously survive the nukes? will be dealt with by christ and the saints (saved israelites) and you all will be bound up and brought over to israel and jerusalem and be forced to build back up our land into a glorious land, with streets paved with gold and palaces and palm trees to beautify the whole land. it will take roughly 7 years for you remnants to build it up for us.

Then alot of you after the 7 years will be appointed your own lands to dwell in, you will build them up and dwell in them, and israelite kings will rule over your dwelling places and govern you there according to the laws of God, you do right youll live, you dont? you will perish, if you refuse to serve israel you will perish. nations will be commanded each year to come up and serve christ in jerusalem. If you refuse? your lands will be cursed with no rain, meaning famine and you dont eat.

as for your people, esau? you get appointed no land in the earth. You will only be used as servants our land of israel and jerusalem and only be our house servants. Forever. The remnant of your people that make it through the fire. Youll be lucky to get your own house and a wife. Youll only be at our mercy and compassion. You will be our rightful righteous and just property, for a payback for your sins. We will possess and own you like your people owned us. And as long as youre are poperty we can do what we want with you. If you cant meet our commands in service whether man or woman. We have authority to beat you, ravish you, or even execute you, dispose of you and go get another.

or we can have mercy on you and compassion depending on how well your service is. Me personally im compassionate, im not a killer. But i will be honored, you will bow to me and meet my commands in my house. Im more of a "you dont meet my commands, you dont eat" type of guy. Youre more valuable to me and my happinest and rest, alive then dead.

you may call it evil or whatever but God calls it justice and a righteous payback and a promise of the children of israel that obtain salvation. Which your people and all other nations in the elite daily for centuries try to keep my people from.

Therefore God, merciful and just to my people promises.

Revelation 13:9-10 KJV

"If any man have an ear, let him hear. He that leads into captivity (slavery) shall go into captivity (slavery): he that kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints (israelites in christ are the saints.")

Thats what we israelites that know the truth, the negroes/hispanics/indians. We have paitence in our service of God for this day to get vengeance on those that continually get away with persecuting us. We have faith in our God that he will bring this to us one day when we repent. We were lead into captivity or slavery by YOUR people, the caucasian tribes aka Edom. There God revealed that you will go into captivity slavery to us as a recompense payback. only fair.

You killed and conquered MY people with the sword, the weapon. your guns, you cannons, your actual swords. Therefor God merciful and just will take your people out with the sword, in the form of destruction, war, nukes, ect. and even our people in that day when power is given unto us, to lay hands on the wicked of you and destroy you and conquer you. This is Gods promise, expect it to come to pass. If I was you id humble myself and bless Gods people and try to cleave to his covenant on how to be righteous and cleanse yourself and maybe, just maybe the lord might have compassion on you in that day, and youll make it through the fire and will have an easy life as a respectful servant to our people......maybe! but keep it up with this non belief stuff? and you will suffer your righteous judgment, and be convinced of it.

back to the vengeance servants scriptures.

Isaiah 14:1-2 KJV

"For the Lord will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land (Israel, Jerusalem): and the strangers (gentiles like you) shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house (nation) of Jacob (israelites). And the people (israelites) shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess (own) them in the land of the Lord for "servants and handmaids": and they shall take them captives (slaves), whose captives (slaves) they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors."

So it is what it is. Your people had us as slaves, you killed us with the sword. Its only fair the same turns around and happens to you. After all, you were createf to be servants, you were created to be destructive in the earth and gain so much power and confidence as a race having all these powerful kingdoms and a hardened and blasphemous against the God of Israel, heart. Just so God can show his existence and his power by taking you down and casting you (lucifer) from heaven (power) down to the earth (slavery and oppression as a people)

and use his people to bring his power about and his truth to expose you. A lie can only last so long. Eventually the gig is up. Your kingdoms were established by blood, slavery, and lies and blasphemies. The blasphemies come from your religion. The catholics and christians. You guys stole the hebrews book and twisted it up to gain control and power not only over israel but all nations. What helped you get that new world power was by creating a white jesus in the renaissance era as the new world son of God, therefore generations after generations by the massess would be highly deceived into believing the son of God is white and his people is white, adam and eve was white and eve God himself is white. Thus causing everyone to believe that white people today are blessed by God because of their power and everyone buys into the idolatry of the catholic christian religions. And think the doctrine that comes with it is the God of Israels righteous way. Its highly satanic and highly evil.

God calls the white image of christ the image of the beast, because the beast in revelations 13 is Esau/Edom whom are the romans. He ascended out of the sea (poverty) having 7 heads and ten horns and ten crowns.

He established that during the renaissance era. Which means (rebirth of a culture) they rebirth the new world culture that ended up failing after the ancient greck roman empire fell. They got the spirit back after the dark ages and established it again. They got rome back and conquered europe. Conquering the moors which ruled europe, the moors were jews (negroes) that ruled europe during the dark ages after the ancient grecko roman emprie fell around the 5th century ad.

And the romans in the 14th century started conquering the world again. And counquering and taking over what was already established in places like england which the black moors (jews) Who were wicked by the way an ugodly during this era, they still were blood jews though. But they Named England... it means "angels land" they were the original anglo saxons which means "angelic sons of isaac" The angelic sons of isaac are the children of israel. The israelite hebrews are also known as angels, earthly angels. Another term for angels is "sons of God". theres the heavenly host of angels, the invisible sons of God. Then there are the earthly ones, which are the children of Israel. The sons of God, his only begotten nation. Aka only CHOSEN nation in the earth to do his will and serve him. What do angels do? they serve God and do his will. What did God chose the israelites to do? Serve him and do his will and bless them above all nations in return.

Therefor the israelites are the sons of God, the Angels of God in the earth. So the name England is in referance to the israelites inhabiting that land. They knew they were "angels" in the earth so they called the land "England" angels land. And they knew they were The sons of isaac, angelic sons of isaac, because Esau (greek-roman/caucasians) is a son of isaac too, but not angelic, not Chosen by God to serve him. Caucasians, Negroes, indians and hispanics were all born at the same time of Isaacs seed. They were fraternal twins in His wife rebekahs womb. Fraternal means not identical. They were born totally different looking and on purpose so it wont be too difficult to identify Esau in the last days. He was born RED all over and hairy. Pretty much an Albino.. no pigmentation therefore the blood shows through his descendants skin. Lack of melanin. Caucasians are RED SKINNED people. and hairy. Their hair is very stringy and lifeless. The negroes hair is thick and genetically dominant trait. But caucasians arent white, theyre different shades of red and pink which is a dirivitive of red.

as for the negroes/hispanics/indians. were all originally dark skinned and thats evident in the really dark skinned indians, the dominicans, cubans, mexicans, seminole indians, puerto ricans. They got mixed with the caucasian spaniards though and thats what made alot of them have that light complexion and sometines caucasian features, but they're hebrews if their fathers are of native indian descent. not spanish descent.

Anyways esau is the beast that rose to power because he was second behind jacob as the chosen seed. So by default? of israel falling. Esaus descendants were able to take that seat, but in order to sustain it they had to do much evil and tell much lies to keep it, thus bringing a very great judgment to their people.

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Nothing but a rant from a racist. Why do even try to justify being a racist? Just come out and say you are a racist without trying to say that some kind of mythical god that you made up says it is OK to be racist and bigoted.

Your god sounds like a racist god that wants to just torture Christians.

I don't understand the moderates allowing so much racist hate speech on this site.

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Deuteronomy 1:1-3 KJV

These be the words which Moses spake unto all Israel on this side Jordan in the wilderness, in the plain over against the Red sea, between Paran, and Tophel, and Laban, and Hazeroth, and Dizahab.

(There are eleven days' journey from Horeb by the way of mount Seir unto Kadesh–barnea.) And it came to pass in the fortieth year, in the eleventh month, on the first day of the month, that Moses spake unto the "children (descendants) of Israel", according unto all that the Lord had given him in commandment unto them;"

Deuteronomy 7:6 KJV

"For you (children of Israel) are an holy people unto the Lord your God: the Lord your God has chosen you to be a "special people" unto himself, ABOVE ALL PEOPLE that are upon the face of the earth."

The Nation of Israel God chose to be a special people to him, a Holy nation and a nation thats above all people in the earth, which means every other lineage, or tribe, or family, or nation or race of people. Whatever you want to call it. The children of Israel according to the creator of Heaven and Earth are above all people. Period.

You dont like it?? go sit in a corner and cry, pout, stick your lips out. throw tantrum and wait for the nuclear destruction to come and sweep you away with the rest of the nations and non believers and evil doers that have a problem with it.


Deuteronomy 7:7-8 KJV

"The Lord did not set his love upon you (the children of Israel), nor choose you, because you were more in number than any people (nation); for you were the fewest of all people (nation): But because the Lord loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, has the Lord brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen (slavery), from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt."


Deuteronomy 28:1 KJV

"And it shall come to pass, if you (descendants of the seed of israel) shall listen diligently unto the voice of the Lord your God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command you this day, that the Lord your God will set you on high ABOVE ALL NATIONS of the earth:"


Deuteronomy 11:22-25 KJV

"For if you (descendants of the seed of israel) shall diligently keep all these commandments which I command you, to do them, to love the Lord your God, to walk in all his ways, and to cleave unto him; Then will the Lord drive out all these nations (races) from before you, and you shall possess greater nations (races) and mightier than yourselves."

"Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours: from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be. There shall NO MAN be able to STAND BEFORE YOU: for the Lord your God shall lay the FEAR OF YOU and the DREAD OF YOU upon all the land that you shall tread upon, as he has said unto you."

Yes, my people are that powerful when we serve our (not your) God. Why you think your people had to beat our surnames out of us and give us yours in slavery? why you think they wouldnt let us read? why you think they forced their language on us? why you think they did the same to the indigenous hispanic tribes and indian tribes?

that wasnt done to no other people in the earth. Chinese been chinese, with chinese culture and names and kingdom for thousands of years. They havent budged. Korens, japanese, Arabs, east indians, the asians, filipinos, Caucasians, black africans, none of these races or nations ever had their heritage and culture completely stripped from them in slavery.

You dont find that ironic?? how else could your people rule over us if we know who we are and that according to God were the greatest people on the planet earth and that your people have no buisness ruling over us and enslaving us or even TOUCHING us. The answer is that you couldnt let us know the truth of our people, its a detremint to your entire kingdom and way of life youve established here (without our God in your way)

Because once Gods people repent of their sins that got them in the situation under your people in the first place? then your people will automatically lose their power and kingdom. Its bound to happen because the truth stands forever, eventually it will get out.

and as far as your kingdom goes? examine all kingdoms in the past? they all have one thing in common. the egyptian empire, the persian and media empire, the grecko roman empire. They all FELL!!! and why is that??? because NONE of them were inspired by God, and this latest rensissance empire, the rebirth of your people in power over the earth from 1453 up until now! establishing your european union empire and america! which is an extension of Rome. It will fall too, just like those in the past. And Gods people will get their empire, Gods kingdom will reign supreme in the earth and his chosen race will inherit it and control and rule it. All nations will come into subjection of our God, his laws and you will fear us and bow to and serve us in our kingdom. call it what you want. But i call it justice and power.

And the best part is that YOUR people will be our PERSONAL servants. And I cant wait. Dont get me wrong ill have compassion and mercy on those of you I likr, like my friends if they make It I pray they do. But people like YOU, im going to work you hard in them cotton fields! and I cannot wait until I can get my hands on your women. They already love us anyway, but it will be awesome the day that they bow to me and are my personal concubines and sex toys. I cant wait to have women like that one fox news anchor that thinks jesus and santa are white, so get over it? whats her name?

yeah, Shes going to be my personal pole polisher. Ima die her hair brown, cuz I hate blonde. And shes going to serve me as her master. ima have like 500 of those racist white women as my humble slave sex servants.

Thats the glory of being the seed of israel and God giving you justice. Oh and guess what?? they wont ever tell me no either. i mean NEVER tell me no in that day. I can beat her ass if she dares tell me no. My women will be in check in that day. ima have them tied up in a dungeon starving and begging for food! theyll have to blow me good every night just to eat. Theyre going to wotship me as their lord if they want to live.

you havent seen nothing yet.


Isaiah 60:12 KJV

"For the nation (race) and kingdom that will NOT serve you (descendants of the seed of israrl) shall perish yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted."

in other words I dare YOU or your women to tell us no in that day and see what happens? Either way...we will have our fun and get our fill of your people in our land. Either youll serve or youll die. Well just bury you and get another one of you who DONT want to perish and will be HAPPY to serve. But dont think itll be that easy though. Sonetimes death is too easy. Naw, youre more valuable to our pleasure alive. So instead of killing you, we ll just torture you. Take away your food, or beat you, extort you. You will serve. we dont care if you like it or not.


Isaiah 14:1-2 KJV

"For the Lord will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers (non israelite races) shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob. And the people (israel) shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house (race) of Israel shall possess (OWN) them in the land of the Lord for servants and handmaids (female sex slaves) and they shall take them captives,(slaves) whose captives (slaves) they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors."

thats whats coming to the caucasian race, the arab people, the black african hamite people that sold us to the caucasians, That goes for the fake jews today, the chinese. All of them, the remnant that survive through armageddon will be possessed by my people for male servants and female sex servants aka concubines or secondary wives. Their life job will be to please us in the bed when we command them and to serve our israelite wives in the house.

you men will work in our fields, build our homes, pave our streets, and do all the heavy lifting stuff. your women will be degraded as cheap sex servants. And we can have as many as we can handle. 100 200 300 400 how ever much treasure we stored up from serving our God and doing his will risking our lives for the gospel. We will be rewarded for how much work we do for God. Some men, like the kings will have likr 300 israelite wives and 700 sex servants of the other nations. Like king solomon.

me personally thats a bit much. Im good with ill say roughly 20 wives of israelite 10 black, 10 latina brown woman and 50 sex servants. i think ill have about 20 white sex servants, 15 arab servants, 15 asian servants, Thats enough for me. ;)

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