What religion and Christianity couldn't possibly understand.

[mickeymudge]

My name is Lawrence. I was directed to post a topic here so that others can learn more about my presence here. I promise to try to be at my best, but please understand that I have no place for incredulous people. The bible is so misunderstood today that it's teachings has spawned atheists, and even the weak theory of evolution.

People want so badly to understand what has happened, and what the bible means. You don't have to suffer any longer. I come equipped with over 34 years of needed knowledge of the Supernatural to understand these things, in addition to being privy to four events myself. I am not a messiah, I am not a prophet, I'm simply some poor soul that accidentally found out, that my education is paramount to understanding the bible. Simply put, without it, anyone would be unqualified to read the bible. If they do, you would most likely see things result from it like wars, family barriers, and other non agreeing events. You will also see things like overlooked events in the bible which aren't explained by society.

The only thing that I'm going to share is that the bible is NOT what mainstream society thinks that it is. My research in this matter is backed by several Doctors, Scientists, Authors, Gifted people, Researchers, and numerous others.

[ttruscott]

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I come equipped with over 34 years of needed knowledge of the Supernatural to understand these things, in addition to being privy to four events myself.
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So, if I claim that you are an anti-Christ led by satan you would accept it because I have some 39 years of study in comparative religion and Christian theology and claim to have personally experienced some miracles of Christ for myself?

Peace, Ted

[mickeymudge]

Maybe you can hit me back with some details as why you think it aids in the direction of evolution, and for right now since I'm on here, I will explain how it aids in Intervention.

I have no desire to try to educate you on a religion debate forum. The article speaks for itself. If you can't understanding it I recommend college courses.

Why should I waste my time trying to teach a clearly "Hostile Student" on an internet forum?

If you want to believe the the Bible was inspired by Aliens please be my guest.

But if you're trying to sell me on the idea then it's "NO SALE".

Good luck trying to convince others of your alien nightmares. And don't loose too much sleep over it. As long as the aliens aren't bothering you why worry about it?

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By the way, if there are bad aliens out there who are out to get us, then there are probably some good aliens out there too. So instead of having nightmares about the bad aliens why not start dreaming about good aliens that come along and save us from the bad aliens?

Have a little optimistic faith.

Maybe you can hit me back with some details as why you think it aids in the direction of evolution, and for right now since I'm on here, I will explain how it aids in Intervention.

I have no desire to try to educate you on a religion debate forum. The article speaks for itself. If you can't understanding it I recommend college courses.

Why should I waste my time trying to teach a clearly "Hostile Student" on an internet forum?

If you want to believe the the Bible was inspired by Aliens please be my guest.

But if you're trying to sell me on the idea then it's "NO SALE".

Good luck trying to convince others of your alien nightmares. And don't loose too much sleep over it. As long as the aliens aren't bothering you why worry about it?

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By the way, if there are bad aliens out there who are out to get us, then there are probably some good aliens out there too. So instead of having nightmares about the bad aliens why not start dreaming about good aliens that come along and save us from the bad aliens?

Have a little optimistic faith.

I have no desire to try to educate you on a religion debate forum. The article speaks for itself. If you can't understanding it I recommend college courses.

I wasn't asking you to educate me, I was asking which points specifically sold you on the delusion. And I doubt very seriously if you went to college to learn how to understand evolution. If you did, it was a complete waste of your time and money IMO. Get your money back, faith is not a paying position in case you never realized.

Why should I waste my time trying to teach a clearly "Hostile Student" on an internet forum?

I'm not hostile in learning, I'm frustrated however when I have to repeat myself more than three times, and you still don't get something. You must have been in your evolution class for 8 years.

If you want to believe the the Bible was inspired by Aliens please be my guest.

And once again, you don't understand. As I have explained multiple times before, and have to keep repeating myself. I have no belief. Belief implies that I have an opinion. I don't know how to make this any more clearer than I already have. No one sets out to prove that God was a space alien, that tortured us through DNA.There is no benefit to doing so. After the fact, yes, I have an opinion, but before hand it was something that was found accidentally.

But if you're trying to sell me on the idea then it's "NO SALE".

If you're trying to say that you simply would not believe in such a finding, I have asked you multiple times to disprove the findings, and all I'm getting at this point is silence. If you're indicating that you would never pay for such an understanding, all I can tell you once again, is you have already paid for it in a multitude of ways, and you along with everyone else will continue to pay for it as long as you are alive.

We all have been stricken with sickness as described throughout the bible. We have all had supernatural abilities disabled, as also indicated in the bible. Being stricken with the aforementioned is collateral damage on an unimaginable scale.
If your relatives visited this planet in a search for long lost family, they could stand eye to eye with you and totally miss the fact you are family, based on what has been done to you.

Good luck trying to convince others of your alien nightmares. And don't loose too much sleep over it. As long as the aliens aren't bothering you why worry about it?

Nightmares are child's play to deal with, but if you would have read the bible like you lied and claimed you did, you would also know, we aren't supposed dream. Dreaming is a bi-product from one of the things that God did to us.

By the way, if there are bad aliens out there who are out to get us, then there are probably some good aliens out there too. So instead of having nightmares about the bad aliens why not start dreaming about good aliens that come along and save us from the bad aliens?

Well there have been reports of them that predate the bible, and I'm not able to find anything positive about any of them.

Have a little optimistic faith.

I don't believe in faith. Faith implies opinion, and I'm not really interested in opinion, I like to stick to the facts.

[mickeymudge]

My name is Lawrence. I was directed to post a topic here so that others can learn more about my presence here. I promise to try to be at my best, but please understand that I have no place for incredulous people. The bible is so misunderstood today that it's teachings has spawned atheists, and even the weak theory of evolution.

People want so badly to understand what has happened, and what the bible means. You don't have to suffer any longer. I come equipped with over 34 years of needed knowledge of the Supernatural to understand these things, in addition to being privy to four events myself. I am not a messiah, I am not a prophet, I'm simply some poor soul that accidentally found out, that my education is paramount to understanding the bible. Simply put, without it, anyone would be unqualified to read the bible. If they do, you would most likely see things result from it like wars, family barriers, and other non agreeing events. You will also see things like overlooked events in the bible which aren't explained by society.

The only thing that I'm going to share is that the bible is NOT what mainstream society thinks that it is. My research in this matter is backed by several Doctors, Scientists, Authors, Gifted people, Researchers, and numerous others.

I read the bible & it's rediculous as a book of any ultimate creator-god.
Other than that, I guess it could be a humerous take on the state of affairs of politics at the time.
Or poorly recycled stories from other religions.

I assure you it's a book of how someone tried to claim they were our creator, and got busted on the fact. What followed was punishments and torture, and we are what is left, in the way we are.

[Divine Insight]

I'm not hostile in learning, I'm frustrated however when I have to repeat myself more than three times, and you still don't get something.

You need to do more that just repeat your unsubstantiated opinions. You need to demonstrate why anyone should actually believe them.

I don't believe in faith. Faith implies opinion, and I'm not really interested in opinion, I like to stick to the facts.

I haven't seen any evidence that you understand what a fact even is.

You have already stated that it's a "fact" that aliens can erase memory. But it has never been established that aliens even exist, much less that they could actually do these things.

This is like saying that it's a "fact" that Santa Claus lives at the North Poll, or that it's a "fact" the Rudolf the reindeer has a glowing red nose, or it's a "fact" that Superman can leap over tall buildings, fly faster than a speeding bullet and is more powerful than a locomotive.

Just because these are popular superstitious or fictional beliefs, does not make them "facts". And the very same thing is true about aliens abducting people or erasing their memory. There has never been a convincing verified case of any such thing.

So as far as I can see you don't even know how to deal with facts because you don't understand the difference between facts, fictions, rumors and hoaxes.

Evolution is known to be true because of actual facts that can be verified. Yet you renounce evolution, thus proving to me that you don't even understand how to work with real facts.

[mickeymudge]

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I come equipped with over 34 years of needed knowledge of the Supernatural to understand these things, in addition to being privy to four events myself.
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So, if I claim that you are an anti-Christ led by satan you would accept it because I have some 39 years of study in comparative religion and Christian theology and claim to have personally experienced some miracles of Christ for myself?

Peace, Ted

So, if I claim that you are an anti-Christ led by satan you would accept it because I have some 39 years of study in comparative religion and Christian theology and claim to have personally experienced some miracles of Christ for myself?

Well I would instantly know you are delusional based on the fact that you think Christ is still alive, when anyone that's actually read the bible, at least in part, would know that he died ! LOL.

As far as accepting your study in comparative religion and christian theology, and personally being privy to miracles. You sort of missed what was going on here. It would appear you studied the wrong subjects LOL.

You see I was only able to read the hidden language because I have studied the supernatural. Clearly you haven't otherwise you would have read the same things.

I'll give you a clue however, the bible is prefaced as dealing with supernatural elements. In other words, You're not qualified to be reading it, or understand it.

In essence, you have brought a knife to a gun fight. You may have been smart enough to know it was a fight, but there is no way you're going to win reading this book without the needed credentials.

And by the way, smarty pants, I have honestly been privy to FOUR supernatural events in my life time, so I still got you beat on that one too.

Peace, Ted

Toodles, Lawrence.

[ttruscott]

What religion and Christianity couldn't possibly understand.

If we can't possibly understand then what is it called to waste our time and yours badgering us with your superior intellect and knowledge?

Doing the same thing while expecting different results such as preaching to us who cannot possibly understand, seems worse than futile...a lonely life to have only those who can never understand as your audience.

Peace, Ted

[mickeymudge]

I'm not hostile in learning, I'm frustrated however when I have to repeat myself more than three times, and you still don't get something.

You need to do more that just repeat your unsubstantiated opinions. You need to demonstrate why anyone should actually believe them.

I don't believe in faith. Faith implies opinion, and I'm not really interested in opinion, I like to stick to the facts.

I haven't seen any evidence that you understand what a fact even is.

You have already stated that it's a "fact" that aliens can erase memory. But it has never been established that aliens even exist, much less that they could actually do these things.

This is like saying that it's a "fact" that Santa Claus lives at the North Poll, or that it's a "fact" the Rudolf the reindeer has a glowing red nose, or it's a "fact" that Superman can leap over tall buildings, fly faster than a speeding bullet and is more powerful than a locomotive.

Just because these are popular superstitious or fictional beliefs, does not make them "facts". And the very same thing is true about aliens abducting people or erasing their memory. There has never been a convincing verified case of any such thing.

So as far as I can see you don't even know how to deal with facts because you don't understand the difference between facts, fictions, rumors and hoaxes.

Evolution is known to be true because of actual facts that can be verified. Yet you renounce evolution, thus proving to me that you don't even understand how to work with real facts.

You need to do more that just repeat your unsubstantiated opinions. You need to demonstrate why anyone should actually believe them.

Well Jeezz, you're making it sound like I'm on here trying to sell Evolution, it's nothing like that. I don't have any unsubstantiated opinions. Understanding Intervention is not a belief, it's not a faith, it's not a religion, it's not a cult, it's not a hypothesis, it's not a theory, it's an understanding. I wasn't looking for it when I found it.

Look at it this way, if someone came up to you and slapped you in the face, and you told them not to do that, would you be more cautious? You're saying no. So lets say they slap you again, and again, and again, and again. How many times do they have to slap you before you start ducking? Now I'm right with you. I might be up to a dozen or so before I catch on, but come on, seriously, when there are dozens of facts that all point to God being a space alien. Besides, you're never going to convince me that ALIENS don't necessarily pilot space crafts. I know you think it's cows doing it, but I'm putting my money on Humanoid aliens.

I haven't seen any evidence that you understand what a fact even is.

Again, I think you're thinking I'm selling Evolution. The bible is a historical document. That's a fact. Even today, the majority of the population still lives by and obeys most of the ten commandments. Most if not all of our laws and restrictions are built around religion. So much so that religious establishments are tax exempt.

Here are some good facts for you to realize...

God tortured us through punishments and the disabling of our supernatural abilities, through DNA. This is evident as he states first of all that the punishments will be handed down to our offspring. He is also witnessed to be accompanied with a four headed creature of lion ox eagle and man. Clearly he is a mad scientist. God used an ability to not only disable parts of us, but also was able to re-enable them as well, explained by his offer to turn and be healed.

God was clearly a space alien based on the following, but not all is here...

God being able to read minds, is an alien ability.
Putting Adam to sleep in a field, with a mind ability is an alien ability.
There are 34 versus in the bible pertaining to aliens.
God is seen in a vision in a space craft, I'm assuming those things are piloted by aliens.
Telepathy used in the bible in reference to the holy ghost and holy spirit, is another alien ability.
The ability to perceive, as listed in the bible is another alien ability on our part. The ability to part the seas is an alien ability.
The listing that we once had supernatural abilities are alien abilities.
Being able to walk on water is an alien ability.
Having highly advanced technology like an atomic bomb back in Sodom and Gomorrah, is indicative of aliens.
Using DNA to control us, and disable our abilities, and make us sick, is an advanced technology, indicative of aliens.
Abducting Adam and Eve and erasing their memory like in the Garden of Eden, is a Hallmark event for alien activity.

Are you ducking yet?

Now this is just about God being a space alien, I haven't even gone into the facts that present us having dormant abilities. I haven't even gone into the facts that prove this obviously isn't our planet. I haven't even gone into the details about the public's general health, I haven't even gone into how the food here is NOT our food.



You have already stated that it's a "fact" that aliens can erase memory. But it has never been established that aliens even exist, much less that they could actually do these things.

Well there is seriously no way that millions of people scattered across the globe can all be having the same nightmare, with nothing to prove why.

Again, are you ducking yet?

This is like saying that it's a "fact" that Santa Claus lives at the North Poll, or that it's a "fact" the Rudolf the reindeer has a glowing red nose, or it's a "fact" that Superman can leap over tall buildings, fly faster than a speeding bullet and is more powerful than a locomotive.

Some of the things in the bible are matching with science today. For example, God abducting Adam and Eve, and not being our real creator, according to my findings, all checks out in science.

Just because these are popular superstitious or fictional beliefs, does not make them "facts". And the very same thing is true about aliens abducting people or erasing their memory. There has never been a convincing verified case of any such thing.

Of course not, and I never implied they would be based on that. That is just you're interpretation of how to dismiss it. For example Lloyd Pye was in possession of an alien skull that he was in the process of getting tested by a very sophisticated lab. It turned out that he was getting mixed reports on the skull from several labs. It was later figured that the skull was a three parent life form. Pye died before he could get the testing done. Independent tests, as a whole, strongly suggest it to be the case. An alien with alien mother and father nuclear DNA, but having human mtDNA.

If you think aliens erasing memory is unheard of, then you lied about any research on your part about the subject. Anyone with mild knowledge about the subject would know that it's commonly known for aliens to erase memory when they abduct people.

http://www.skepticfiles.org/ufo1/youabd.htm


So as far as I can see you don't even know how to deal with facts because you don't understand the difference between facts, fictions, rumors and hoaxes.

The problem is you're using your opinion to establish what a fact is. Most people are incredulous about the subject to the point that like I said, there are people I know that don't even believe we ever went to the moon, let alone a few times.

Evolution is known to be true because of actual facts that can be verified. Yet you renounce evolution, thus proving to me that you don't even understand how to work with real facts.

That's a fallacy. No one has ever witnessed a species changing into another species. Sorry man, you can only stretch it so far.

[mickeymudge]

What religion and Christianity couldn't possibly understand.

If we can't possibly understand then what is it called to waste our time and yours badgering us with your superior intellect and knowledge?

Doing the same thing while expecting different results such as preaching to us who cannot possibly understand, seems worse than futile...a lonely life to have only those who can never understand as your audience.

Peace, Ted

Well Ted, I have repeatedly posted facts and understandings for this to make sense. Was there something in specific that I missed, or have you just not gone back in the thread to read it?

Toodles, Lawrence.

[ttruscott]

What religion and Christianity couldn't possibly understand.

If we can't possibly understand then what is it called to waste our time and yours badgering us with your superior intellect and knowledge?

Doing the same thing while expecting different results such as preaching to us who cannot possibly understand, seems worse than futile...a lonely life to have only those who can never understand as your audience.

Peace, Ted

Well Ted, I have repeatedly posted facts and understandings for this to make sense. Was there something in specific that I missed, or have you just not gone back in the thread to read it?

Toodles, Lawrence.

To make what make sense??? That you preach to those who you claim in the title can't possibly understand you does not make sense at all!!! Why not preach to the dogs and birds like Saint Francis? They at least understood him... Why not preach to the rose bushes - they can't understand you either.

Did you even read what I wrote at all?

Peace, Ted

[mickeymudge]

What religion and Christianity couldn't possibly understand.

If we can't possibly understand then what is it called to waste our time and yours badgering us with your superior intellect and knowledge?

Doing the same thing while expecting different results such as preaching to us who cannot possibly understand, seems worse than futile...a lonely life to have only those who can never understand as your audience.

Peace, Ted

Well Ted, I have repeatedly posted facts and understandings for this to make sense. Was there something in specific that I missed, or have you just not gone back in the thread to read it?

Toodles, Lawrence.

To make what make sense??? That you preach to those who you claim in the title can't possibly understand you does not make sense at all!!! Why not preach to the dogs and birds like Saint Francis? They at least understood him... Why not preach to the rose bushes - they can't understand you either.

Did you even read what I wrote at all?

Peace, Ted

I'm seriously at a loss Ted as to what it is exactly that you're not understanding. I have posted ample refutable facts that God was a space alien. If you don't understand that at this point, I can't help you. It could just be that you have 0 education in this subject, which could explain why you're oblivious to it. If you could be a little more specific, maybe I can help.

Toodles, Lawrence.