What religion and Christianity couldn't possibly understand.

[mickeymudge]

My name is Lawrence. I was directed to post a topic here so that others can learn more about my presence here. I promise to try to be at my best, but please understand that I have no place for incredulous people. The bible is so misunderstood today that it's teachings has spawned atheists, and even the weak theory of evolution.

People want so badly to understand what has happened, and what the bible means. You don't have to suffer any longer. I come equipped with over 34 years of needed knowledge of the Supernatural to understand these things, in addition to being privy to four events myself. I am not a messiah, I am not a prophet, I'm simply some poor soul that accidentally found out, that my education is paramount to understanding the bible. Simply put, without it, anyone would be unqualified to read the bible. If they do, you would most likely see things result from it like wars, family barriers, and other non agreeing events. You will also see things like overlooked events in the bible which aren't explained by society.

The only thing that I'm going to share is that the bible is NOT what mainstream society thinks that it is. My research in this matter is backed by several Doctors, Scientists, Authors, Gifted people, Researchers, and numerous others.

[Tired of the Nonsense]

My name is Lawrence. I was directed to post a topic here so that others can learn more about my presence here. I promise to try to be at my best, but please understand that I have no place for incredulous people. The bible is so misunderstood today that it's teachings has spawned atheists, and even the weak theory of evolution.

People want so badly to understand what has happened, and what the bible means. You don't have to suffer any longer. I come equipped with over 34 years of needed knowledge of the Supernatural to understand these things, in addition to being privy to four events myself. I am not a messiah, I am not a prophet, I'm simply some poor soul that accidentally found out, that my education is paramount to understanding the bible. Simply put, without it, anyone would be unqualified to read the bible. If they do, you would most likely see things result from it like wars, family barriers, and other non agreeing events. You will also see things like overlooked events in the bible which aren't explained by society.

The only thing that I'm going to share is that the bible is NOT what mainstream society thinks that it is. My research in this matter is backed by several Doctors, Scientists, Authors, Gifted people, Researchers, and numerous others.

Let's get straight to the heart of the matter? Is it your firm belief that a corpse came back to life and flew away? If so, what possible credibility are you bringing to the table with you?

I'm sorry but I have no idea what you're talking about when you refer to a corpse, or who you're referring to exactly.

The credibility is backed by over nine doctors, and dozens of others, in terms of the individual understanding of parts of my finding. Those are all listed earlier in the thread.

Personally what I bring to the table is over 34 years of study into the supernatural which is needed in order to identify these obviously shared parts of the bible. Without such, you would not be qualified to understand the bible in it's entirety.

Additionally I have also been privy to four supernatural occurrences myself. On top of all this I'm also the identifier of a virus that was once rampant during our frequent use of a specific technology. The only thing I can say is that I'm often able to realize the big overall picture of things when others are simply at a loss for words. Not sure if that's what you wanted, but that's what I have.

Are you not a Christian? Is it not true that the cornerstone of your belief system is that 2,000 years ago Jesus died, and that on the third day his corpse arose and ultimately flew off up into the clouds? Is it not true that you believe implicitly that this actually occurred? Have I really misunderstood the Bible entirely?

Apparently you have made a vast mistake. As I have stated multiple times during this thread, I have no faith, I have no belief, I had no opinion BEFORE I found out that God was a space alien. If you're asking me if I believe the things that happened in the bible are real, I would say without a doubt. Now whether or not that's being interpenetrated correctly is exactly why I'm indicating that anyone, including pastors, preachers, fathers, reverends, and any other member of the church, couldn't possibly understand without that supernatural background.

Hopefully that clears things up. If not, explain to me in more detail what you're having a problem with, and I'll do my best to give you the supernatural interpenetration of it. If you're asking me do aliens have the technology to transport someone, like they do in star-trek, I would tell you without a doubt they do, and there are a multitude of reports of aliens doing this type of activity all the time. If you would like to witness one that actually got recorded on surveillance camera, here is a link.

My original question was directed at your credibility. I believe that you have pretty well cleared that question up for me.

[mickeymudge]

My name is Lawrence. I was directed to post a topic here so that others can learn more about my presence here. I promise to try to be at my best, but please understand that I have no place for incredulous people. The bible is so misunderstood today that it's teachings has spawned atheists, and even the weak theory of evolution.

People want so badly to understand what has happened, and what the bible means. You don't have to suffer any longer. I come equipped with over 34 years of needed knowledge of the Supernatural to understand these things, in addition to being privy to four events myself. I am not a messiah, I am not a prophet, I'm simply some poor soul that accidentally found out, that my education is paramount to understanding the bible. Simply put, without it, anyone would be unqualified to read the bible. If they do, you would most likely see things result from it like wars, family barriers, and other non agreeing events. You will also see things like overlooked events in the bible which aren't explained by society.

The only thing that I'm going to share is that the bible is NOT what mainstream society thinks that it is. My research in this matter is backed by several Doctors, Scientists, Authors, Gifted people, Researchers, and numerous others.

Let's get straight to the heart of the matter? Is it your firm belief that a corpse came back to life and flew away? If so, what possible credibility are you bringing to the table with you?

I'm sorry but I have no idea what you're talking about when you refer to a corpse, or who you're referring to exactly.

The credibility is backed by over nine doctors, and dozens of others, in terms of the individual understanding of parts of my finding. Those are all listed earlier in the thread.

Personally what I bring to the table is over 34 years of study into the supernatural which is needed in order to identify these obviously shared parts of the bible. Without such, you would not be qualified to understand the bible in it's entirety.

Additionally I have also been privy to four supernatural occurrences myself. On top of all this I'm also the identifier of a virus that was once rampant during our frequent use of a specific technology. The only thing I can say is that I'm often able to realize the big overall picture of things when others are simply at a loss for words. Not sure if that's what you wanted, but that's what I have.

Are you not a Christian? Is it not true that the cornerstone of your belief system is that 2,000 years ago Jesus died, and that on the third day his corpse arose and ultimately flew off up into the clouds? Is it not true that you believe implicitly that this actually occurred? Have I really misunderstood the Bible entirely?

Apparently you have made a vast mistake. As I have stated multiple times during this thread, I have no faith, I have no belief, I had no opinion BEFORE I found out that God was a space alien. If you're asking me if I believe the things that happened in the bible are real, I would say without a doubt. Now whether or not that's being interpenetrated correctly is exactly why I'm indicating that anyone, including pastors, preachers, fathers, reverends, and any other member of the church, couldn't possibly understand without that supernatural background.

Hopefully that clears things up. If not, explain to me in more detail what you're having a problem with, and I'll do my best to give you the supernatural interpenetration of it. If you're asking me do aliens have the technology to transport someone, like they do in star-trek, I would tell you without a doubt they do, and there are a multitude of reports of aliens doing this type of activity all the time. If you would like to witness one that actually got recorded on surveillance camera, here is a link.

My original question was directed at your credibility. I believe that you have pretty well cleared that question up for me.

Well I'm glad. Not that EVERYTHING in the bible is Supernatural, but seeing how it is prefaced as such, it's just sort of common sense that if you lack that knowledge, you are obviously not going to understand, which will possibly lead you into disbelieving the entire bible, which I totally understand why.

This is exactly why I stated at my intro that I wish not to deal with incredulous people, not that everyone should just believe in anything. Clearly these things exist. There are reports of government cover ups, There is even the chapter 13 of the FEMA training manual, which I strongly suggest anyone incredulous to read. For the first time, the Government is not only acknowledging their existence, but they are aware of the threat of their existence as well as how advanced their technology is.

For ALL of you incredulous non believers, I STRONGLY suggest you read this website. They tell it exactly like it is.

http://www.greatdreams.com/ufos/firefighters.htm

[Deidre32]

The Bible is at best, hearsay. It's not objective proof of supernatural events.

[mickeymudge]

The Bible is at best, hearsay. It's not objective proof of supernatural events.

I understand what you're thinking, but the fact is that bible is a historical document, from actual witnesses. You simply can't get any closer to the truth considering the time line. The information is not 3rd party, like you're suggesting, based on the definition of hearsay...

hear·say
ˈhirˌs�/
noun
noun: hearsay

information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor.
"according to hearsay, Bob had managed to break his arm"
synonyms: rumor, gossip, tittle-tattle, idle talk; More
stories, tales;
informalthe grapevine, scuttlebutt, loose lips
"that's all hearsay, and I don't care to listen to such tripe"
Law
the report of another person's words by a witness, usually disallowed as evidence in a court of law.
"everything they had told him would have been ruled out as hearsay"


Rather, the bible is written by actual witnesses. It gets no closer to the truth, and you can't say they're ALL wrong.The bible is the ONLY documentation of it's kind that bares the intense frequent, ongoing amount of Supernatural intervention we have on this plant. The only other thing we have is individual accounts from people and their encounters, mostly unaccepted by incredulous people.

[Deidre32]

[Replying to post 74 by mickeymudge]

When I was a Christian, I too thought the Bible was objective truth, but it's not a history book. And it's not objective truth. Nothing within it, can be proven. That's the inconvenient truth about it. lol

[mickeymudge]

[Replying to post 74 by mickeymudge]

When I was a Christian, I too thought the Bible was objective truth, but it's not a history book. And it's not objective truth. Nothing within it, can be proven. That's the inconvenient truth about it. lol

The fact that people were scattered all over and Telepathy removed from them, being forced to make up separate languages, is proof enough. Researchers have NEVER been able to figure out how people were planted all over the earth, with no means to build boats.

Plus, there have been many things proven by the bible.

http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/science.shtml

http://www.eternal-productions.org/101science.html

While I don't agree with Faith or Religion, it's only because I have found information that there is a prelude to our creation, which is full of deceit.

[Jashwell]

[Replying to post 76 by mickeymudge]

Biblical 'researchers' have NEVER been able to prove anything... because doing so as the result of their Biblical understanding would be appeal to authority, and begging the question two logical fallacies.

Here are two example explanations for language barriers and population separation:
1) The land changes. Straits form and dissipate. Ice ages happen. Some times when populations cross straits (not individual people) and settle both sides, eventually the straits are worn away. Sometimes individual people do cross ice sheets and such, and are forced to settle on the other side when the ice melts. The chances of each separated population achieving the same language are extremely unlikely.

2) Everyone spoke the same language (despite the fact that language hasn't always existed, and multiple languages existed at the time of Babylon likely in Babylon, let alone the world). One group of people decided to build a tower. God wasn't happy, and said something along the lines of, "if they can build this, they can do anything, let us (plural) go and confound their language" and then God(s?) mixed their languages. Before, at the time, or not long after, the Egyptians built a pyramid that was almost certainly significantly bigger than any tower Babylon could build. Nothing happened. Thousands of years later, we have translators and English is becoming the dominant language. We build much higher buildings. Nothing is happening.


Now, even if you don't accept that number 1, that is entirely emergent (it will occur if the requirements can occur) from things we know happen, your supposed biblical proof is nonexistant.

Please quote anything from either source that you feel is accurate. A few at a time would be preferable.

[Deidre32]

[Replying to post 76 by mickeymudge]

You need to look waaaay back into history. Yes, our early ancestors traveled by sea to various parts of the world.

The Bible isn't a history or science book. It was compiled to teach a religion. To promote a religion. That's it.

[mickeymudge]

[Replying to post 76 by mickeymudge]

Biblical 'researchers' have NEVER been able to prove anything... because doing so as the result of their Biblical understanding would be appeal to authority, and begging the question two logical fallacies.

Here are two example explanations for language barriers and population separation:
1) The land changes. Straits form and dissipate. Ice ages happen. Some times when populations cross straits (not individual people) and settle both sides, eventually the straits are worn away. Sometimes individual people do cross ice sheets and such, and are forced to settle on the other side when the ice melts. The chances of each separated population achieving the same language are extremely unlikely.

2) Everyone spoke the same language (despite the fact that language hasn't always existed, and multiple languages existed at the time of Babylon likely in Babylon, let alone the world). One group of people decided to build a tower. God wasn't happy, and said something along the lines of, "if they can build this, they can do anything, let us (plural) go and confound their language" and then God(s?) mixed their languages. Before, at the time, or not long after, the Egyptians built a pyramid that was almost certainly significantly bigger than any tower Babylon could build. Nothing happened. Thousands of years later, we have translators and English is becoming the dominant language. We build much higher buildings. Nothing is happening.


Now, even if you don't accept that number 1, that is entirely emergent (it will occur if the requirements can occur) from things we know happen, your supposed biblical proof is nonexistant.

Please quote anything from either source that you feel is accurate. A few at a time would be preferable.

Biblical 'researchers' have NEVER been able to prove anything... because doing so as the result of their Biblical understanding would be appeal to authority, and begging the question two logical fallacies.

Oh I see, so what you're saying is it's just a coincidence that some of our most important laws, views, and policies match with the bible.


You shall have no other gods before Me.
You shall not make idols.
You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Honor your father and your mother.
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
You shall not covet.

Most of which has been followed, and some of which still exists today in our law books and courts.

Here are two example explanations for language barriers and population separation:
1) The land changes. Straits form and dissipate. Ice ages happen. Some times when populations cross straits (not individual people) and settle both sides, eventually the straits are worn away. Sometimes individual people do cross ice sheets and such, and are forced to settle on the other side when the ice melts. The chances of each separated population achieving the same language are extremely unlikely.

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're presenting here. Are you saying that since people are separated, there is no way on earth the bible could have been decoded correctly?

2) Everyone spoke the same language (despite the fact that language hasn't always existed, and multiple languages existed at the time of Babylon likely in Babylon, let alone the world). One group of people decided to build a tower. God wasn't happy, and said something along the lines of, "if they can build this, they can do anything, let us (plural) go and confound their language" and then God(s?) mixed their languages. Before, at the time, or not long after, the Egyptians built a pyramid that was almost certainly significantly bigger than any tower Babylon could build. Nothing happened. Thousands of years later, we have translators and English is becoming the dominant language. We build much higher buildings. Nothing is happening.

First of all the people that were here in the Babylonian period may have been non existent during our entry to Earth. It's entirely possible that God had others here before Adam and Eve in that period and also removed their Telepathy as well.
We all had one language back when we had Telepathy. Telepathy is universal per humanoids, no learning required. When God disabled our Transmit, we were forced to use our mouths, and also invent languages. God had a secondary ability to read minds. It's invasive by comparison to Telepathy and before that working ability. This is why God was still allowed to communicate with people creating any language. Because the process in our minds is all the same, before a speaking language. I got one better for you, we have visited the moon a few times, and nothing has happened. I never said God was still alive, in fact if you read back, I clearly state that it's written he was passing in the bible. It's the misunderstanding of how he could read minds and be invisible that has misled people into believing he could do anything, and lives forever. This is why I keep trying to tell people, he was just an alien, with different abilities then we have.

Now, even if you don't accept that number 1, that is entirely emergent (it will occur if the requirements can occur) from things we know happen, your supposed biblical proof is nonexistant.

Please quote anything from either source that you feel is accurate. A few at a time would be preferable.

I'm unfamiliar with those sections.

[mickeymudge]

[Replying to post 76 by mickeymudge]

You need to look waaaay back into history. Yes, our early ancestors traveled by sea to various parts of the world.

The Bible isn't a history or science book. It was compiled to teach a religion. To promote a religion. That's it.

And you're right, but I'm reading past that. Especially since it's obvious that God lied about being our creator. There was deceit. On the flip side, there is still some history in it.