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This from ThePainefulTruth:
The manipulation of followers leading them to a devotion in an unreasoned, blind-faith based model for society, which accrues power back to the manipulating elite. It only applies to government and academia insofar as they are subverted to socialism. As for the media, they're either a tool for the socialists, or, like proper academia and government, foster the Truth.
was posted in "Is The Holy Spirit a Sham" thread and seemed so far afield from that OP, I thought responses should be in a separate thread.
The generalities and broad categories listed here seem too vague to be of much value. Among other problems, the quote assigns no role to the influence of business and capitalism.
The issue for debate is:
"What are the roles that 'socialism,' the 'manipulating elite,' government, academia, big business, and other groups play in a "blind-faith model for society?" What does that have to do with the Holy Spirit being or not being a 'sham?' And what is this 'ruling elite?'

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I guess you could say the ruling elite could be classified as the billionaire club who have significant enough disposable income to influence the political atmosphere in their favor.

Socialism in its many forms can be manipulated thusly in such a way to benifit this socially elite group. We see this through policy changes that appear irrational but undoubtedly benefit certain individuals/corporations. However, the cure for this lies not with an anarchic type of government, but instead teaching people reasoning and critical thinking skills with a touch of skepticism. Simply removing regulations and government oversight just makes it that much easier for people with power to keep power and abuse it.

As far as the role of religious idealogy in this is skeptical thinking can be discouraged and false or misleading information is not always double checked.

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DanieltheDragon wrote: [Replying to post 1 by Danmark]

I guess you could say the ruling elite could be classified as the billionaire club who have significant enough disposable income to influence the political atmosphere in their favor.

Socialism in its many forms can be manipulated thusly in such a way to benifit this socially elite group. We see this through policy changes that appear irrational but undoubtedly benefit certain individuals/corporations. However, the cure for this lies not with an anarchic type of government, but instead teaching people reasoning and critical thinking skills with a touch of skepticism. Simply removing regulations and government oversight just makes it that much easier for people with power to keep power and abuse it.

As far as the role of religious idealogy in this is skeptical thinking can be discouraged and false or misleading information is not always double checked.
I think you've hit the nail on the head. Too often religious 'thinking' stresses belief and ideology over individual factual analysis and critical thinking. That may be why there is such a strong correlation with political conservatism and science denying religion. Big business has been successful in harnessing the evangelical right wing and their lack of critical thinking skills to equate 'socialism' with evil, and 'free' enterprise oppressive capitalism with Christianity. I have never seen the logic for this marriage, but the correlation is there nonetheless.

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I was walking down the street one evening when suddenly the sidewalk was pulled out from under me. As I lay there in the dust, I shouted into the gathering darkness, "Why?" Then, I realized why...it seems I was walking the wrong way.

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ThePainefulTruth wrote: I was walking down the street one evening when suddenly the sidewalk was pulled out from under me. As I lay there in the dust, I shouted into the gathering darkness, "Why?" Then, I realized why...it seems I was walking the wrong way.
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