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I agree completely and you make an important observation that I had not completely considered.
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My theological positions:
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
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That's the bottom line right there. There is no rational argument for objective morality. That concept simply has no merit whatsoever.
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That's the bottom line right there. There is no rational argument for objective morality. That concept simply has no merit whatsoever.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Cool move
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Cool move
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"God felt it necessarily to speak from a cloud and confirm that Jesus was his son because he didn't think that the disciples had sufficient reason to believe in Jesus without this supernatural confirmation. Yet we are to be DAMNED for merely not believing in absolutely absurd and outrageous unverifiable and truly stupid stories."
What a great point. The Disciples who... let's face it were a wishy washy bunch... got to rub shoulders with Jesus every day. They got to (supposedly) see first hand proof of the divinity of Jesus. They got everything from the mouth of "God" himself, but yet were still weak in faith and still needed a voice from the clouds (God sitting up there on a cloud I'm betting). Despite their extreme lack of faith they were given further evidence of Christ's divinity. However we non-believers are expected to believe without any evidence at all.
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"God felt it necessarily to speak from a cloud and confirm that Jesus was his son because he didn't think that the disciples had sufficient reason to believe in Jesus without this supernatural confirmation. Yet we are to be DAMNED for merely not believing in absolutely absurd and outrageous unverifiable and truly stupid stories."
What a great point. The Disciples who... let's face it were a wishy washy bunch... got to rub shoulders with Jesus every day. They got to (supposedly) see first hand proof of the divinity of Jesus. They got everything from the mouth of "God" himself, but yet were still weak in faith and still needed a voice from the clouds (God sitting up there on a cloud I'm betting). Despite their extreme lack of faith they were given further evidence of Christ's divinity. However we non-believers are expected to believe without any evidence at all.
Society and its morals evolve and will continue to evolve. The bible however remains the same and just requires more and more apologetics and claims of "metaphors" and "symbolism" to justify it.
Prayer is like rubbing an old bottle and hoping that a genie will pop out and grant you three wishes.
There is much about this world that is mind boggling and impressive, but I see no need whatsoever to put it down to magical super powered beings.
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Me thinks Arian would also be a case study for this X)
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Me thinks Arian would also be a case study for this X)
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I suppose that part of it is the idea that the people who believe in this nonsense are seduced by the idea they are part of a select elite who recognize these secrets hidden from the masses.
The above is all too true.
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I suppose that part of it is the idea that the people who believe in this nonsense are seduced by the idea they are part of a select elite who recognize these secrets hidden from the masses.
The above is all too true.
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
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I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
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Nicely done
But, "Don't confuse them with facts, their mind's made up" applies to the claimant.
Of course, readers are not locked-in to the claimed "seven written eyewitness accounts" so they likely reject it (as have the scholarly and theological communities)
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Nicely done
But, "Don't confuse them with facts, their mind's made up" applies to the claimant.
Of course, readers are not locked-in to the claimed "seven written eyewitness accounts" so they likely reject it (as have the scholarly and theological communities)
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Excellent response
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Excellent response
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Nice response, thoughtful, appropriate
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Nice response, thoughtful, appropriate
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