All living things have souls

[JoeyKnothead]

From Post 42 here:

1) All living things have "souls," but "soul"=/="immaterial."

For debate:

Please offer some means to confirm the referenced claim is true.

[arian]

I can't prove it, but anyone who has loved a cat or a dog are convinced they have souls too.

Of course you cannot prove it. You cannot prove that you or I have a soul. I'll bet 1,000 tokens that you don't even know what a soul is. I certainly don't.

God is Spirit, He can by will make parts of His Spirit into laws, which create different realities and bodies, like celestial and terrestrial, physical and Angelic spiritual bodies.

God decided to make 'man', in His and His Sons image. So he took from the dust of the earth and formed mans body (brain and all) and as it was just laying there, God 'breathed' into his nostrils the "breath of Life", which simply means God sent a tiny bit of His Spirit, of 'Himself', into the body of dust, and man became a 'living-soul'.

So a 'living soul' is body, and a tiny bit of God/Spirit inside it controlling and enjoying the sensations of the body, and the bodies surroundings like the earth and everything in and on it.

Our 'mind' in a body is that spirit of God that has taken on individuality of his own. The mind is the 'soul' of man, it is who we are. This is the observable/scientific truth.

[myth-one.com]

God is Spirit, He can by will make parts of His Spirit into laws, which create different realities and bodies, like celestial and terrestrial, physical and Angelic spiritual bodies.

God decided to make 'man', in His and His Sons image. So he took from the dust of the earth and formed mans body (brain and all) and as it was just laying there, God 'breathed' into his nostrils the "breath of Life", which simply means God sent a tiny bit of His Spirit, of 'Himself', into the body of dust, and man became a 'living-soul'.

So a 'living soul' is body, and a tiny bit of God/Spirit inside it controlling and enjoying the sensations of the body, and the bodies surroundings like the earth and everything in and on it.

Our 'mind' in a body is that spirit of God that has taken on individuality of his own. The mind is the 'soul' of man, it is who we are. This is the observable/scientific truth.

God's spirit is infinite in that it's life never ends.

Is a tiny bit of "God/Spirit" infinite?

How does "God/Spirit" in man enjoy the physical sensations of hunger, thirst, pain, lust, greed, sex, adultery, worry, fear, uncertainty, death, etc. It seems to me that physical life is a much more difficult life than spiritual life.

That part of "God/Spirit" sentenced to "enjoy the sensations of the body" is actually being punished.

And how is your hybrid man/God observed scientifically?

[Bust Nak]

[Replying to post 41 by arian]

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Getting a bit too close to preaching there, on top of just detailing your beliefs, you need to argue why it is true.

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[JoeyKnothead]

From Post 41:

God is Spirit, He can by will make parts of His Spirit into laws, which create different realities and bodies, like celestial and terrestrial, physical and Angelic spiritual bodies.

What evidence can you present in support of such a declaration?

[JoeyKnothead]

From Post 42:

God's spirit is infinite in that it's life never ends.

I challenge you to show you speak truth about this matter.

Upon that getting done, then we gotta think about how a god having an infinite 'spirit life' (my term) means there's souls, and how such might impact the OP.

[myth-one.com]

From Post 42:

God's spirit is infinite in that it's life never ends.

I challenge you to show you speak truth about this matter.

My mistake.

I should have said:

The Bible states that God's spirit is infinite in that it's life never ends.

Guess I forgot what forum I was in.

Upon that getting done, then we gotta think about how a god having an infinite 'spirit life' (my term) means there's souls, and how such might impact the OP.

I dunno.

What do you mean by "souls"?

[Zzyzx]

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What do you mean by "souls"?

Asking Joey to identify "souls" may be more productive than asking Christians -- which I have been doing for decades (with no coherent answers).

Help 'em out Joey.

[myth-one.com]

Asking Joey to identify "souls" may be more productive than asking Christians -- which I have been doing for decades (with no coherent answers).

Help 'em out Joey.

This might be considered a coherent, or at lease an "expert" answer:

The Bible teaches that you are an immortal soul. Your soul is eternal and will live forever. In other words, the real you -- the part of you that thinks, feels, dreams, aspires; the ego, the personality-- will never die. The Bible teaches that your soul will live forever in one of two places -- heaven or hell.

(Just assume for a few seconds that the above is a true description of mankinds "soul.")

If true, that statement simply brings up more questions.

The Gospel message of the New Testament is suppose to be Good News for all mankind.

Open Question: How is even one "soul" spending eternity in hell good news for anyone -- believer or nonbeliever?

Is this really part of the Gospel?

Duh?

[Zzyzx]

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This might be considered a coherent, or at lease an "expert" answer:

The Bible teaches that you are an immortal soul. Your soul is eternal and will live forever. In other words, the real you -- the part of you that thinks, feels, dreams, aspires; the ego, the personality-- will never die. The Bible teaches that your soul will live forever in one of two places -- heaven or hell.

(Just assume for a few seconds that the above is a true description of mankinds "soul.")

Being of sound mind, I cannot make that assumption " even temporarily because:

As best known to those who study such things, the part of humans that "thinks, feels, dreams, aspires" is the brain " which dies within minutes when deprived of oxygen (including cessation of bodily functions " i.e, death of the individual).

[JoeyKnothead]

From Post 46:

God's spirit is infinite in that it's life never ends.

I challenge you to show you speak truth about this matter.

My mistake.

I should have said:

The Bible states that God's spirit is infinite in that it's life never ends.

Guess I forgot what forum I was in.

I can dig it. My game is to understand folks by how they respond. That you don't hem and haw around is an admirable trait.

Upon that getting done, then we gotta think about how a god having an infinite 'spirit life' (my term) means there's souls, and how such might impact the OP.

I dunno.

What do you mean by "souls"?

Them things the Christians carry on about, and boy howdy, do they they carry on, on how if'n you find you that one good Holy'n there, well how 'bout that, but if'n you find you one of the other kind, that'n that ain't holy, and how maybe it is, that's why can't nobody show us there is one, 'cause it is, they're too scared to run a-lookin'.

Them things Christians seem to set great store in how they'll save you yours, if only you'll just believe 'em and not laugh too much when they tell their stories.

Ya know, like the ghosts and the spirits, and the stuff at night ya can't see, 'cause there it is, it's all night and all. Them that ain't there, but don't it beat all, there they are all the same. Them invisible, undetectable things some Christians rattle their chains to get 'em to holler "boo" every time God gets him a fret.


Use it in a sentence:

I swear to God, if another Christian makes a claim in debate, only to bemoan how he ain't got him no time to defend that claim, well I'm just gonna start kicking the ever-loving soul out of the next kitten I come across.