How to know that you are really saved(born again)!

[GISMYS]

How can we know we are really saved? Because God’s Word tells us, and God cannot lie. If you have put your personal faith and trust in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, the Bible says God has made you a member of His family. ‘God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He that hath the Son hath life … These things I have written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life’ (1 John 5:11-13). ‘God said it—I believe it—that settles it!’ Romans 10:9-13==if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be [h]disappointed.� 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.�

[OnceConvinced]

(1 John 5:11-13). ‘God said it—I believe it—that settles it!’

That was always good enough for me!

Romans 10:9-13==if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;

Yep. I certainly did that. I believed in my heart. I thoroughly believed. I was complete convinced that Jesus was raised from the dead and that I was saved. In fact I completely believed I had a relationship with God.

10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be [h]disappointed.�

Sadly I became very disappointed later on when it seemed to me that God wasn’t there. But that was close to 30 years after I had repented and accepted Christ as my saviour. Clearly verse 11 is a downright lie.

12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.�

Yep. Called on his name and believed I was saved too. However 30 years later when I called on his name begging him for help as I struggled with my disappointment, I received no such help.

Now I am no longer a Christian. I call myself an Ex-Christian. Many Christians now claim I was never a true Christian to begin with. If that is true, then ALL the scriptures you have quoted are bare-faced lies and it’s actually impossible to tell whether you are truly saved or not. Even you yourself, GISMYS may be kidding yourself if you believe you are truly saved based on those scriptures.

If however those scriptures are true then I am still saved, even though I no longer believe.

[GISMYS]

[Replying to post 11 by OnceConvinced]

WRONG!!! ""IF"" you had ever really believed, confessed and repented of your sins and accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior you would still be a believer for all eternity. Almighty God and God's Word are not lies. I was saved at age 14 and for all my life I have lived my life as a son of God, there is no downside to living life as a son of God.

[Danmark]

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[Divine Insight]

Bottomline= ALMIGHTY GOD makes the rules NOT little sin loving man. Beware!!! Non one has ot ever will win trying to argue and fight against ALMIGHTY GOD!!! THINK!

Oh my!

Let's not upset GOD ALMIGHTY!

He might hurt someone.

Nobody messes with BIG BAD GOD ALMIGHTY.

He's the almighty psychopath who get's away with atrocities just because he can.

Sounds like material for a Saturday Night Horror Flick.

[Danmark]

[Replying to post 11 by OnceConvinced]

WRONG!!! ""IF"" you had ever really believed, confessed and repented of your sins and accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior you would still be a believer for all eternity. Almighty God and God's Word are not lies. I was saved at age 14 and for all my life I have lived my life as a son of God, there is no downside to living life as a son of God.

Might not the "downside" be that you are SHOUTING instead of arguing. I'd say another possible "downside" would be the claim that you appear to believe you are entitled to judge others. Who are you to judge? Who are you to determine the authenticity of the experiences of others? Didn't Jesus preach against that kind of attitude?

[GISMYS]

[Replying to post 15 by Danmark]

I need not try to judge anyone,God"s Word says unbelievers are already judged and condemned by their choice to reject God and live in sin.God the Son Jesus has the promise of God the Father that none that believe in Him will ever be lost.

[OnceConvinced]

The wages of sin is death and eternal lake of fire. Hell was created for satan and demons and all evil as there is no place in eternity but the lake of fire for all evil.

However God, being omniscient, knew when he created Hell that he was going to use it to roast the majority of his human creations.

Jesus gave His blood and life on that Roman cross to pay mankind's sin debt and to buy us a pardon

How immoral that an innocent man be put to death on the cross for our atrocities. Are you ok with an innocent man being put to death for the abominable things you have done, GISMYS? Would you be ok if say Jesus was killed for Hitler’s sins and Hitler was saved?

BUT we are free to reject God and God's love,mercy,forgivness and pay our own sin debt =hell! ALL OUR CHOICE!

At one point I believed this stuff, but then came to the conclusion that it was fantasy. For me to be able to make a choice to accept or reject it, I must once again come to the point where I believe that this God exists and that he IS loving merciful and forgiving. Only once those facts have been ascertained can I then accept or reject him.

[GISMYS]

[Replying to post 17 by OnceConvinced]

Again=Jesus "IS" God the Son. The only way you can get into hell is for you to choose to reject God's love,mercy and forgivness you can't then turn and try to blame God for your very poor choice!

[OnceConvinced]

[Replying to post 17 by OnceConvinced]

Again=Jesus "IS" God the Son. The only way you can get into hell is for you to choose to reject God's love,mercy and forgivness you can't then turn and try to blame God for your very poor choice!

I do not reject God's love, mercy and forgiveness. Never have.

And exactly what poor choice did I make? A long time ago I chose to accept God as my savior and lived for him. Is that the poor choice? Then one day I came to a horrifying conclusion that it was all a big fraud - a fantasy. No choice was involved in that conclusion. It was an inescapable conclusion, one I struggled against for some time.

How do you propose I go back to believing in God so that I can then choose to accept him again?

[Danmark]

[Replying to post 15 by Danmark]

I need not try to judge anyone,God"s Word says unbelievers are already judged and condemned by their choice to reject God and live in sin.God the Son Jesus has the promise of God the Father that none that believe in Him will ever be lost.

Well, it certainly sounds like you are passing judgment. I was born and raised an evangelical Christian. I confessed my sins, repented, and gave over my life to Jesus. I served on the mission field in a foreign country and "brought souls to Christ."

Then I sought to know more about my faith. I read books that are featured in Christian seminaries and talked to Christian professors, men of both faith and learning. During this continuing education and after an earned doctorate I realized it was like a house built upon the sand. The house came tumbling down. I am thankful I no longer believe such fiction and don't take the Bible as literal truth, but as literature with both its beauty and its faults.

And now you proclaim that either I am still "saved" or I never was truly sincere. I'd say that is "judging" despite your claim to the contrary.