How to know that you are really saved(born again)!

GISMYS · Post by **GISMYS** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 10:28 am

How can we know we are really saved? Because Godâ€™s Word tells us, and God cannot lie. If you have put your personal faith and trust in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, the Bible says God has made you a member of His family. â€˜God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He that hath the Son hath life â€¦ These things I have written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal lifeâ€™ (1 John 5:11-13). â€˜God said itâ€”I believe itâ€”that settles it!â€™ Romans 10:9-13==if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, â€œWhoever believes in Him will not be [h]disappointed.â€� 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for â€œWhoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.â€�

Danmark · Post by **Danmark** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:14 pm

GISMYS wrote: [Replying to post 17 by OnceConvinced]

Again=Jesus "IS" God the Son. The only way you can get into hell is for you to choose to reject God's love,mercy and forgivness you can't then turn and try to blame God for your very poor choice!

No one is blaming God. God does not exist. Why would someone blame a fictional character for things that happen in the real world?

GISMYS · Post by **GISMYS** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:20 pm

[Replying to post 20 by Danmark]

Which is more likely? God and His Word being wrong or some little guy on a message board??

Danmark · Post by **Danmark** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:45 pm

GISMYS wrote: [Replying to post 20 by Danmark]

Which is more likely? God and His Word being wrong or some little guy on a message board??

I think you are missing the point. The question is not whether "God" is right. God is no more "right" than Frosty the Snowman. Neither exist in the real world. The question is whether your opinion, as a person on a "message board" is justified.

You have given ZERO arguments supporting your opinions. You've merely made claims, with no evidence to support them. You've suggested that everyone accept as a given that your claim is correct. The purpose of this site is to give you an opportunity to offer support and argument for your claims. So far you've given no reason to support your opinions and claims.

GISMYS · Post by **GISMYS** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:56 pm

[Replying to post 23 by Danmark]

God's Word says I have all creation as proof God is real!!! What kind of person would need more proof than all creation? All creation is my reason and the support of my opinions and claims. That is enough for me!!! and you?

Danmark · Post by **Danmark** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:23 pm

GISMYS wrote: [Replying to post 23 by Danmark]

God's Word says I have all creation as proof God is real!!! What kind of person would need more proof than all creation? All creation is my reason and the support of my opinions and claims. That is enough for me!!! and you?

The Earth and the organisms on it as well as the universe can be explained without resort to inventing a 'god.' I understand that primitive man who did not understand the causes and nature of natural phenomena invented a god to explain those things, but today it is no longer necessary, for example to invent a god like Zeus to explain thunder and lightning.

I also don't really see the point of all this worrying about salvation, because God has already decided who the 'Elect' are and there's nothing we can do about it.

John 6:28-29; Phil. 1:29; and especially Eph. 1:11:
"In him we have obtained an inheritance, having been predestined according to the purpose of him who works all things according to the counsel of his will...."

OnceConvinced · Post by **OnceConvinced** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:16 pm

GISMYS wrote: [Replying to post 23 by Danmark]

God's Word says I have all creation as proof God is real!!!

"God's word" was written by some little guys, much like the guys on this message board. At least the little guys on the message board are alive today. We don't have to rely on the ignorance of the little guys from thousands of years ago.

GISMYS wrote: What kind of person would need more proof than all creation? All creation is my reason and the support of my opinions and claims. That is enough for me!!! and you?

Amazing that we all see things differently, isn't it? (something a God would understand) The world for me shows me evidence of evolution, not God. Saying "Goddidit" to me, seems like giving into ignorance. It's saying "I don't understand so I'm gonna make something up".

It's gonna take more than emotions and a sense of wonder to convince me that God exists. And no amount of adding additional exclamation marks to your sentences is going to change that.

GISMYS · Post by **GISMYS** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:23 pm

[Replying to post 26 by OnceConvinced]

NO worries! many will have far more than emotions and a sense of wonder to convince them that God exists as they bow before Him on their final judgment day and hear the saddest words ever spoken by Jesus
Matthew 7:23 â–º
Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

OnceConvinced · Post by **OnceConvinced** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:31 pm

GISMYS wrote: [Replying to post 11 by OnceConvinced]

WRONG!!! ""IF"" you had ever really believed, confessed and repented of your sins and accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior you would still be a believer for all eternity.

No, it is you that is wrong. I most DEFINITELY believed, confessed and repented of my sins and accepted Jesus as my lord and savior. It was a very real, sincere thing and I lived my life for over 30 years believing I had a relationship with Jesus without once anyone telling me I was a false Christian.

You are terribly and utterly wrong and you are definitely in no position to be able to judge me. If God is real, he knows how genuine I was. I'm not making any of this up.

If I was not genuine enough, if I was not sincere enough, then how can anyone be assured that they are saved? Like me you could be mistaken too.

Almighty God and God's Word are not lies. I was saved at age 14 and for all my life I have lived my life as a son of God, there is no downside to living life as a son of God.

How many years were you a Christian? I was brought up in a Christian home. I believed from a very early age without wavering of faith. I simply just believed as any child would. No doubts. I was BORN AGAIN at the age of 7. I was BAPTISED at the age of 16 and all because I was eager to please God and wanted to serve him. I believed sincerely and continued on in my faith strongly for the next 30 years until serious doubts began to arise. I truly loved Jesus. If I was mistaken then there is clearly no real way to know whether you are saved or not.

OnceConvinced · Post by **OnceConvinced** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:33 pm

GISMYS wrote: [Replying to post 26 by OnceConvinced]

NO worries! many will have far more than emotions and a sense of wonder to convince them that God exists as they bow before Him on their final judgment day and hear the saddest words ever spoken by Jesus
Matthew 7:23 â–º
Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

And how unjust would that be? God throwing us into Hell all because we were simply UNABLE to believe. What a malevolent God he would be.

At least then I will have had proof that God exists. But hey, no worries, I don't have to worry, because that day will never come. It's all fantasy.

OnceConvinced · Post by **OnceConvinced** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 9:41 pm

GISMYS wrote: [Replying to post 15 by Danmark]

I need not try to judge anyone,God"s Word says unbelievers are already judged and condemned by their choice to reject God and live in sin.God the Son Jesus has the promise of God the Father that none that believe in Him will ever be lost.

Clearly that is a broken promise. Either that or God still sees me as saved. If those scriptures you quoted in the OP are for real and really are God's words then I can be confident that I am saved and am still saved.

Of course they could be a load of nonsense, in which case then it's all fantasy and there is no such thing as anyone being born again and no one can ever be born again. Thus neither are you. It either has to be one or the other doesn't it?