Why is sex outside of marriage wrong?

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Why is sex outside of marriage wrong?

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I'll ask a very simple question.

In Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, sex is allowed only within marriage.

Of course there are some believers who do not really agree with this, but my question is for those who do agree with it.

Can someone (Christian, Muslim, or Jew) explain why sex outside of marriage is wrong, but without citing any religious text(s)?

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Goat wrote: Just to point out, what is forbidden is adultery, not unmarried sex. Premarital sex is discouraged, but it isn't considered 'holy', while sex within marriage is considered 'holy' or special. The attitudes change with the culture and the time, but premarital sex is not forbidden by Jewish law.
Thank you. I didn't know this about Judaism.

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ttruscott wrote: The physical is simultude of the spiritual. Marriage is the symbol for unity between GOD and HIS Church, and sex is the symbol for the unity between GOD and Man. These unities are symbolic of the Unity of Deity between the three divine members of the Trinity. All expressions for the breaking (or ignoring the meaning) of that bond are therefore symbols for idolatry and choosing sin over holiness whether adultery or promiscuity.

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Maybe I should have worded my question differently. I wanted answers without referring to God at all. Basically, tell me why it's immoral, without mentioning God or citing religious books. Now you mentioned the spiritual, God, Church, Trinity, etc.

These elements are part of Christianity.

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McCulloch wrote: [Replying to post 1 by RUSLAN]

Marriage is a contract between two people to be sexually exclusive. Sex outside of marriage, therefore is a violation of the contract.
Simple, interesting answer.

Now, if the marriage hasn't occurred, and a contract hasn't been made yet, can you say why sex before marriage is wrong? (Again without religion.)

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RUSLAN wrote:
Goat wrote: Just to point out, what is forbidden is adultery, not unmarried sex. Premarital sex is discouraged, but it isn't considered 'holy', while sex within marriage is considered 'holy' or special. The attitudes change with the culture and the time, but premarital sex is not forbidden by Jewish law.
Thank you. I didn't know this about Judaism.
I will also point out that the Cohen's and the Levites have the additional restriction that they have to marry virgins (the men have to marry virgins). That additional restriction is not put on everyone else.

Not only that, but there is no problem with offspring of unmarried couples. There is the condition known as a mamzer, which is the offspring of one of the prohibitive sexual relations (incest, adultery, etc), but offspring of unmarried sex have no such label attached to them.
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RUSLAN wrote: I'll ask a very simple question.

In Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, sex is allowed only within marriage.

Of course there are some believers who do not really agree with this, but my question is for those who do agree with it.

Can someone (Christian, Muslim, or Jew) explain why sex outside of marriage is wrong, but without citing any religious text(s)?
Because sex makes people and you are morally responsible for those people i.e. children.

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DanieltheDragon wrote:well technically speaking biblical marriage is a contract for the female to be sexually exclusive not the male.

Adultery is only having sex with the wife of another male.
That may or may not be true. I don't really care. I was not speaking of biblical marriage.
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[Replying to post 16 by McCulloch]

Yeah I get that now read the OP wrong my bad.

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dbohm wrote: Because sex makes people and you are morally responsible for those people i.e. children.
I'm sure you know about contraception. :-s

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RUSLAN wrote:
dbohm wrote: Because sex makes people and you are morally responsible for those people i.e. children.
I'm sure you know about contraception. :-s
No form of contraception is 100% reliable.

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RUSLAN wrote: I'll ask a very simple question.

In Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, sex is allowed only within marriage.

Of course there are some believers who do not really agree with this, but my question is for those who do agree with it.

Can someone (Christian, Muslim, or Jew) explain why sex outside of marriage is wrong, but without citing any religious text(s)?
Sex outside of marriage is just taking a concubine. What is forbidden is a woman with multiple partners or a man taking another man's wife and incest. Also ritual sex done in worship of the pagan gods was forbidden.

It makes sense to limit women to a single partner so the father of any child isnt disputed. It is for the protection of the women and their children.

Modern day phariseeism has expanded on the sexual law with traditions of man. They have redefined fornication as any sex outside of marriage while it actually means "unlawful intercourse". You have to go into the law to see what was actually forbidden.

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