Mark of the beast

Willum · Post by **Willum** » Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:00 pm

Submitted for your consideration:

I believe the 666 connotation represents three things that are aptly described by Revelations:

Money is easily described as it.
Media and communications (wearable cell phones anyone?) can also be something inferred from Revelation's description of the Mark.

and some third 6.

Six is a number of the the beast in actuality. Just as the five-pointed star represents magic from the sacrifice of man, 1=head, 2,3=arms 4,5 legs, so the six pointed star represent the magic from sacrifice of beasts: as above 1-5, and a sixth point from the tail of animals.

Are there any expansions on these assertions being further correct or incorrect? and from this, is it possible to discover the representation of the final "6?"

Could this also thus mean, a third sacrifice?

tam · Post by **tam** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:17 pm

AdHoc wrote:
tam wrote: Peace to you Willum.

I must agree with what Adhoc has said above. There is no reason to believe that the number relates to three things, each represented by one 6. That would be 3 beasts, would it not?

Six hundred and sixty-six is the number of the beast. It is also man's number.

Instead of getting caught up in the number, and what it might possibly be translated into, perhaps pay more attention to the attributes of the beast. That being said, we are talking about Revelation here, meaning this is something that is revealed. Meaning if you want to know, and know for sure, you should ask Christ if He will reveal it to you.

A couple of questions one might want to ask and/or consider:

What does it mean to look like a lamb... yet speak like a dragon? (the first two attributes of this second beast, that rises out of the earth)

Who/what is the lamb?
Who/what is the dragon?

What does the dragon speak?

Peace to you and Adhoc both,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy
Good questions Tammy. I would guess looking like a lamb means it has a gentle and peaceful appearance. Speaking like a dragon could also mean speaking like a serpent which to me evokes the forked tongue I.E. deceitful.

The Lamb is Christ the dragon is Satan.

Yes. The Lamb has other attributes as well. He is the Truth, the Word of God, the mediator between man and God. Someone or something claiming to be those things, or taking those titles, might be described as looking like a lamb.

Here are some questions for you:

What do horns represent?

Strength. Sometimes something one uses to make announcements.

Why does the beast have two horns?

It has two sources of that strength which it uses to put people under compulsion, to deceive them with.

What does the earth represent?

Why does the beast come out of the earth?

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I think the earth represents the earth. I'm not sure I can elaborate at the moment, but its hope (at least the one that it teaches) is more about an earthly focus, rather than a heavenly or spiritual one. These attributes are true of this beast, but if the earth means something more than that, I have not learned what that might be from the Spirit to date.

It may be much easier to understand who this second beast is if one were to understand that the first beast, the one that comes out of the sea, is religion, and the seven heads are different religions, five of which had fallen by the time John received his revelation, one that was (had just gotten started) by the time John received his revelation, and one that had not yet come (the one that had not yet come is the beast that comes out of the earth), and it is described as when it comes it will remain for just a little while.

So, the or a mark of the beast is MONEY!?

Wild.

How does money look like a lamb and speak like a dragon, Willum?

Peace to you both,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

ttruscott · Post by **ttruscott** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:59 pm

tam wrote:
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What does the earth represent?

Why does the beast come out of the earth?

I think the earth represents the earth. I'm not sure I can elaborate at the moment, but its hope (at least the one that it teaches) is more about an earthly focus, rather than a heavenly or spiritual one. These attributes are true of this beast, but if the earth means something more than that, I have not learned what that might be from the Spirit to date.

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Consider that the earth is the earth that houses sheol within it. The beast from within the earth might be one of the people of the evil one sown into the world by the devil Matt 13:39.... thus it would mean he is a spiritual being born human.

Willum · Post by **Willum** » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:39 pm

[Replying to post 21 by tam]

How are the beast and it's mark the same, tam?

tam · Post by **tam** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:18 am

Willum wrote: [Replying to post 21 by tam]

How are the beast and it's mark the same, tam?

Having the mark of the beast just means that one belongs to the beast.

Peace to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

Excubis · Post by **Excubis** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:30 pm

[Replying to post 1 by Willum]

Carbon - 12 the devils element #protons = 6, #neutrons = 6, #electrons = 6. Or just a random coincidence where does one draw the line?

Willum · Post by **Willum** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:28 pm

[Replying to post 24 by tam]

Yes, but the OP is about the Beast's mark.

I wonder, the six pointed star, before it represented Judaism (1100 AD) represented animal sacrifice. Animal having 1 head, 4 paws, 1 tail = 6 points, in just the same way the 5 pointed star represented human sacrifice.

That might be a way forward.

Excubis · Post by **Excubis** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:30 pm

[Replying to post 26 by Willum]

My bad was more asking a question to believers than an attempt to debate their belief.

Willum · Post by **Willum** » Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:38 pm

[Replying to post 27 by Excubis]

Well, maybe not, i think it might be an excellent observation:
Carbon is diamonds.
Diamonds are the iconic symbol of wealth.

wannabe · Post by **wannabe** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:52 am

[Replying to post 9 by AdHoc]

AdHoc wrote:

"Hi Willum, the text says, "Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six." This suggests to me that it refers to a man and that it is an actual number that needs to be calculated.Â "

Hi Advoc, my n.i.v. of the bible reads......For it is a man's number . His number is 666.
This would suggest, this number might be equal to all his worth. But in truth the evilness is so much more. This would calculate his number as two.

â—‡ one , his subjective amount of worth . And â—‡ two, the true depth of his impact.
Being only two in worth , of equal evilness, this would arouse suspicion.
So to reduce suspicion this will be resolved to one.( no groups )
( much easier to contain) so who is he ?

And how come God gets everyone ?
Because the unbelievers still get saved. Rev: 11:13

In my opinion, Hitler would have had a lot of people convinced.

InHIsHands · Post by **InHIsHands** » Sun Nov 08, 2015 12:06 pm

Willum wrote: Submitted for your consideration:

I believe the 666 connotation represents three things that are aptly described by Revelations:

Money is easily described as it.
Media and communications (wearable cell phones anyone?) can also be something inferred from Revelation's description of the Mark.

and some third 6.

Six is a number of the the beast in actuality. Just as the five-pointed star represents magic from the sacrifice of man, 1=head, 2,3=arms 4,5 legs, so the six pointed star represent the magic from sacrifice of beasts: as above 1-5, and a sixth point from the tail of animals.

Are there any expansions on these assertions being further correct or incorrect? and from this, is it possible to discover the representation of the final "6?"

Could this also thus mean, a third sacrifice?

NO...that is not what 666 represents.

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