Why is sex outside of marriage wrong?

[RUSLAN]

I'll ask a very simple question.

In Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, sex is allowed only within marriage.

Of course there are some believers who do not really agree with this, but my question is for those who do agree with it.

Can someone (Christian, Muslim, or Jew) explain why sex outside of marriage is wrong, but without citing any religious text(s)?

[Clownboat]

not a single one of us actually waited until marriage and we are lucky only one of us got pregnant due to not being prepared.

That too is a fact. The two can co-exist. I did not say ALL Christians wait until marriage I said that millions do and that I AM. Are you suggesting that something I said is inaccurate?

I'm not suggesting anything, I just offered the real life experiences of 5 Christian children that all planned to wait to have sex until marriage. We were not wishy washy Christians either and all but myself still have their Christian beliefs to this day.

I believe that many Christians are brought up being told that it is better to marry than to have sex outside of marriage (myself included). It seems that many Christians have a hard time with the fact that we are biological creatures that reproduce via sexual reproduction. Some people think they will be able to suppress this urge.

Now that I'm older, I feel like I understand just how bad such a mindset is. Sure, every once in a while someone will wait until marriage. Want to know what happens more often then that though. Unwanted babies!

We need to teach our children to be responsible, not some pipe dream that only a small percentage of people will hold to.
Uglies and the socially awkward would have an advantage in this department it would seem if we go by your thinking. I on the other hand suggest teaching responsibility to all.

Good luck on waiting until marriage. I genuinely mean this, but if/when the day comes that you have sex, I sure hope you are prepared unlike my Christian siblings and friends were.

I graduated from a Christian school with 18 in my class. I know of 4 unwanted babies and 2 of them were aborted (this is just the pregnancies mind you). This was done IMO because adults were not responsible in teaching them about sex. They thought teaching abstinence and promise rings was the way to go. They were wrong.

One of the girls was my youth pastors daughter. She had just left home to go to Bible college and she was/still is a strong believer of Christ. I'm sure she really, really, really wanted to wait. I'm sure the ring was not just for show.

If you are young like I suspect, then good luck.
If you are older and perhaps have some leadership role with our teens, then perhaps you could re-think your advice. Consider the unwanted babies.

[JehovahsWitness]

If you are older and perhaps have some leadership role with our teens, then perhaps you could re-think your advice. Consider the unwanted babies.

I don't recall actually giving any advice in this thread. Perhaps you could point out the post that has lead you to make such an assumption.


Thanks

JW

[Clownboat]

You forgot to address [...] how it is not a valid justification.

Well it's good enough for ME, and for millions of Christians.

No I didn't forget anything, I posted all I intended to post. I did not forget to address a logical fallacy because I did not make one.

I did not seek to justify anything, I simply stated a fact. That is I personally am waiting for marriage because of the bible's command and millions of Christians are also. There are millions more Christians that don't of course but these two facts are not mutually exclusive.

Facts don't need justification, they just need to be true. If I said that the room temperature is currently 25° C and it's true, there is no need to justify this - it's a fact. You may ask WHY it is true (ie what factors have contributed to this truth) but to demand justification is to impose a moral judgement that is purely subjective in nature.

Good luck, perhaps you will update us in a few years?

To assume that you wont do something that is so natural to us as a race is quite the endeavor. Good luck, but if the day comes that you fail, I sure hope you will be prepared because the idea that a person will wait has got to be one of the biggest factors that comes into play for creating unwanted babies.

Sure it sounds nice to say that you will wait, but is it worth it at the expense of the unwanted babies that are a result all too often?

[Clownboat]

If you are older and perhaps have some leadership role with our teens, then perhaps you could re-think your advice. Consider the unwanted babies.

I don't recall actually giving any advice in this thread. Perhaps you could point out the post that has lead you to make such an assumption.


Thanks

JW

First of all, I never said anything about giving advise in this thread.

Either way, now is your chance to clarify.
Are you saying that you do not, and will not advise teens to wait to have sex until marriage?
You're not playing dumb are you? I gotta assume you knew what I was referring to, but perhaps not?

[JehovahsWitness]

Good luck [...] Sure it sounds nice to say that you will wait ...

Thanks


JW

[Clownboat]

Good luck [...] Sure it sounds nice to say that you will wait ...

Thanks


JW

You're obviously not putting in much effort here so I don't know how I can possibly sharpen my own thinking on this matter.

Know that I was not attacking your pet idea of waiting. I'm referring to real world scenarios where people shared your idea and failed and also then discussing the repercussions. I was one of those people myself remember.

Good luck and be well.

[OnceConvinced]

Can you explain why God would be so against it?

No, not in THIS thread because the explaination is in bible texts and reference to any bible text has been prohibited by the asker.

So you can't come up with any logical or rational reasons why God would be against it without resorting to scripture?

[ttruscott]

The physical follows the spiritual.

Marriage is the symbol for unity between GOD and HIS Church, as heaven is described as the marriage of the Holy Church to the Son, so marriage came first as the ultimate goal of created persons.

Sex is the symbol for the unity between GOD and Man as evidenced by the sex act not being described just as a joining of two people but as a uniting of two into one flesh. He who joins himself with GOD becomes one Spirit with HIM. The goal of the Spiritual joining with GOD is followed in our goal to be physically joined with our spouses.

These unities are symbolic of the Unity of Deity between the three divine members of the Trinity. All expressions for the breaking (or ignoring the meaning) of that bond are therefore symbols for idolatry and choosing evil over holiness whether adultery or promiscuity.

[mitty]

I'll ask a very simple question.

In Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, sex is allowed only within marriage.

Of course there are some believers who do not really agree with this, but my question is for those who do agree with it.

Can someone (Christian, Muslim, or Jew) explain why sex outside of marriage is wrong, but without citing any religious text(s)?

Just to point out, what is forbidden is adultery, not unmarried sex. Premarital sex is discouraged, but it isn't considered 'holy', while sex within marriage is considered 'holy' or special. The attitudes change with the culture and the time, but premarital sex is not forbidden by Jewish law.

How is premarital sex defined given that the biblical definition of marriage is simply when two people make a personal agreement to shack up together and doesn't require a legally signed marriage contract or an entry in a church or civil registry? Nor does it require a marriage celebrant or witnesses or any of the other wedding hoo-ha.

[JehovahsWitness]

The biblical definition of marriage is simply when two people make a personal agreement to shack up together [...] Nor does it require a marriage celebrant or witnesses or any of the other wedding hoo-ha.

Do you have any evidence to back up this assersion?

Thanks,

JW