Hardcore PROOF That Jesus Is Nothing But a Retold Tale: ~~~~

astounding · Post by **astounding** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:21 pm

These video's are based nothing but on facts which you'll find yourself
if you do research.

START BY WATCHING THIS VIDEO: (You gotta download it)
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The God Who Wasn't There

The movie that has been astounding audiences in theaters around the world is now available on a high-quality, feature-packed DVD.

In this provocative, critically acclaimed documentary, you will discover:

* The early founders of Christianity seem wholly unaware of the idea of a human Jesus

* The Jesus of the Gospels bears a striking resemblance to other ancient heroes and the figureheads of pagan savior cults

* Contemporary Christians are largely ignorant of the origins of their religion

* Fundamentalism is as strong today as it ever has been, with an alarming 44% of Americans believing Jesus will return to earth in their lifetimes

Dazzling motion graphics and a sweeping soundtrack propel this uncompromising and taboo-shattering documentary that Newsweek says "irreverently lays out the case that Jesus Christ never existed."

The God Who Wasn't There includes provocative interviews with:

* Sam Harris, PEN Award-winning author of The End of Faith

* Robert M. Price, Jesus Seminar fellow and author of The Incredible Shrinking Son of Man

* Alan Dundes, Professor of Folklore at the University of California at Berkeley

* Richard Carrier, historian and author of Sense and Goodness Without God

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THEN GO ONTO WATHCING THIS PART WITH UNDISPUTABLE PROOF
THAT JESUS, THE BIBLE AND ALL OTHER RELIGIONS ARE NOTHNIG
BUT RETOLD TALES FROM THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE THEM:
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Go to http://www.youtube.com

In the search box, type in: The Truth About The Jesus Myth

There are 6 parts in total.

Start from #1 obviously then progress onto other parts.

-A

Cmass · Post by **Cmass** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:43 pm

From Bible-History.Com:
(A lot of blah blah blah but it illustrates how this word is not necessarily defined in the manner rendered by fundamentalists (AKA baby made with no penis in vagina))

VIRGIN, VIRGINITY

vur'-jin; vur-jin'-i-ti: (1) bethulah, from a root meaning "separated," is "a woman living apart," i.e. "in her father's house," and hence "a virgin." Bethulah seems to have been the technical term for "virgin," as appears from such a combination as na`arah bhethulah, "a damsel, a virgin," in Dt 22:23,28, etc. An apparent exception is Joel 1:8, "Lament like a virgin bethulah .... for the husband of her youth," but the word is probably due to a wish to allude to the title "virgin daughter of Zion" (the translation "a betrothed maiden" is untrue to Hebrew sentiment). and the use of "virgin" for a city (Isa 37:22, etc.; compare Isa 23:12; 47:1) probably means "unsubdued," though, as often, a title may persist after its meaning is gone (Jer 31:4). The King James Version and the English Revised Version frequently render bethulah by "maiden" or "maid" (Jdg 19:24, etc.), but the American Standard Revised Version has used "virgin" throughout, despite the awkwardness of such a phrase as "young men and virgins" (Ps 148:12). For "tokens of virginity" ("proofs of chastity") see the commentary on Dt 22:15 ff. (2) `almah, rendered in the Revised Version (British and American) by either "damsel" (Ps 68:25), "maiden" (so usually, Ex 2:8, etc.), or "virgin" with margin "maiden" (Song 1:3; 6:8; Isa 7:14). The word (see OHL) means simply "young woman" and only the context can give it the force "virgin." This force, however, seems required by the contrasts in Song 6:8, but in 1:3 "virgin" throws the accent in the wrong place. The controversies regarding Isa 7:14 are endless, but Septuagint took `almah as meaning "virgin" (parthenos). But in New Testament times the Jews never interpreted the verse as a prediction of a virgin-birth--a proof that the Christian faith did not grow out of this passage. See IMMANUEL; VIRGIN BIRTH. (3) parthenos, the usual Greek word for "virgin" (Judith 16:5, etc.; Mt 1:23, etc.). In Rev 14:4 the word is masculine. In 1 Cor 7:25 ff the Revised Version (British and American) has explained "virgin" by writing "virgin daughter" in 7:36-38. This is almost certainly right, but "virgin companion" (see Lietzmann and J. Weiss in the place cited.) is not quite impossible. (4) neanis, "young woman" (Sirach 20:4). (5) Latin virgo (2 Esdras 16:33).
The Old Testament lays extreme emphasis on chastity before marriage (Dt 22:21), but childlessness was so great a misfortune that death before marriage was to be bewailed (Jdg 11:37,38). Paul's preference for the unmarried state (1 Cor 7:29 if) is based on the greater freedom for service (compare Mt 19:12), and the Greek estimate of virginity as possessing a religious quality per se is foreign to true Jewish thought (such a passage as Philo Mund. opif., section symbol 53, is due to direct Greek influence). Some have thought to find a trace of the Greek doctrine in Rev 14:4. But 144,000 lst-century. Christian ascetics are out of the question, and the figure must be interpreted like that of Jas 4:4 (reversed).

Cmass · Post by **Cmass** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:52 pm

Hey, I just noticed my post was altered by what I assume is an automated censoring script. That is fine, but I did not say anything nasty I just said the word xxxx. (peenus) Who decided on this? It allows the word "vagina". What gives? I am not being pornographic here. I am making a point concerning virgin birth.

Oddly, however, this is a good example of why it is so incredibly difficult to take scripture as fact. Who knows what the censors and editors did?

Goat · Post by **Goat** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:37 am

Cathar1950 wrote:
A lot of 'em.
Christianity did not start from scratch in some vacuum. It, like all other belief systems, evolved over time. During that time knowledge changed, perspectives changed, word definitions changed, everything changed. It is a serious mistake to see it all as static.
Exactly Cmass and even the Hebrew religions were not developed in a vacuum. This is often over looked by many Christians that seem to think their religion is a fulfillment of Judaism.
Thewy never stop to think which Judaism or consider there is more then one Christianity.
Like evolution of biological organisms there is not a best species only what survived is alive and the rest is fossils.

Look how much Judaism 'borrowed' from the Pheonicians. All the names of God in the Torah were names of the pheoncian pantheon, all rolled up into one God.

Cathar1950 · Post by **Cathar1950** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:28 am

Goat:

Look how much Judaism 'borrowed' from the Pheonicians. All the names of God in the Torah were names of the Phoenician pantheon, all rolled up into one God.

Good point Goat. I was watching a program on the history channel or NGC about ancestry. The people of ancient Canaan and the Phoenicians where the same people and The Archaeologist are finding the ancient people of Canaan were the same as the people of Israel. David names his son after Baal. Now the Jews have come to grips with their beginnings. Yet they have no faith crises when it comes to their ancient scriptures, because they have matured. The Jews understand that their faith is a living faith of persons in community that hold their traditions while living and adapting. I wonder if that is what Jesus meant when someone wrote he said, “God is the God of the living”?
As one author wrote Christians feel like the second wife in a questionable marriage.
They look at the first wife still beautiful after all these years and wonder if he will leave them too. The problem has been written into the Christian Scriptures and after all grace or favoritism, according to their dead saint Paul, is the only reason God loves them and they must take that on faith (belief) with out reason or evidence. .

Cmass · Post by **Cmass** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:44 pm

I wonder if that is what Jesus meant when someone wrote he said, “God is the God of the living”?

There is also speculation about what was meant by "You shall worship no Gods before me". To me, this implies I need to stop praying to those other Gods - not that they don't exist.

Cephus · Post by **Cephus** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:57 am

Cmass wrote:There is also speculation about what was meant by "You shall worship no Gods before me". To me, this implies I need to stop praying to those other Gods - not that they don't exist.

Clearly the early Hebrews believed that other gods existed, heck look at Moses challenging the priests who were able to do miracles. It was only much later that the Hebrews and then the Christians started insisting that it was demonic power that made these things happen but clearly, at the time it was written, that's not what the Jews believed. If you go delving deeply into Jewish mythology, you find clearly that they had a ton of gods back in the earliest days and that this belief finds it's way into the Bible.