"Jesus my Creator"

[Elijah John]

A pastor on TBN used the phrase "Jesus my Creator"

Questions for debate..

1) Does such language go beyond even the concept of the Trinity and the language of the Bible itself?
2) Is Jesus "Creator" or Redeemer?
3) Does such language suggest a god, (Jesus) before THE God YHVH? (a violation of the first commandment)
4) Doesn't the Bible indicate that YHVH is Creator, and not Jesus? If Jesus is the Creator, what is the Father's role?
5) Are such phases the inevitable result of Jesus worship taken to it's logical extreme?
6) Are such phrases as "Jesus my Creator" way beyond anything Jesus ever claimed for himself?

Please address any combination of the above questions for debate.

[Elijah John]

[Replying to post 44 by Blastcat]

I have a certain sympathy with your position; you believe you are being asked to extrapolate on a view you don't hold.

You are asked to consider a scenario and comment on it, whether you think it is fictional or not. You can simply say that you do not wish to involve yourself in discussing God's various hats, and that comment summarises your position with perfect clarity.

But then to state your position as an atheist and invent a new discussion that has nothing at all to do with the OP seems to me pointless. In many discussions here Jesus is the elephant in the room; we don't get a gold medal for shouting FAKE. We move to a different topic.

If the existence of God is a question of great urgency, there's a good discussion on that in philosophy, and I'd be intrigued by your answers as to why you have chosen atheism. But interesting as they are, they are just a tad out of place here, where the Holy Trinity demands our undivided attention.

And remember, I'm not disagreeing with your basic views. I might share then - but somewhere else.

Well said, if one thinks that the positon of a given OP is ridiculous, at most, say it once and move on. No one is forcing anyone to participate on a given thread.

[otseng]

When someone starts an OP in an apologetic forum, I would have expected them to DEFEND their proposition that a god exists.

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