Donald Trump has exposed 'evangelical' voters

[Danmark]

I was raised as an evangelical. I WAS an evangelical. It is clear that Trump is not an authentic evangelical; he knows next to nothing about the Bible and has lived and continues to live and promote a lifestyle that is antithetical to evangelical Christianity.
Yet he is doing very well, better than any other Republican candidate, among evangelicals.

My conclusion is that evangelicals care much more about secular politics than about true Christian values. Has Trump support among 'evangelicals' exposed the fact the 'evangelical voting block' is not based on Christian values, but on secular political values?

[Danmark]

Can you name a single plan of Trump's that is specific?

Yes. Close the borders and tax imports from Mexico to fund the construction of a wall. If anyone can build one he can. He has a lot of lawyers, knows all the loopholes, and admits he can close them even to his expense. He's smart enough to ask advice and know who's best qualified for appointed positions.

I know Trump is a borderline nutcase. But so are some politicians and even many Americans who are tired of Washington. Hey, we live in a country where many hold a bible in one hand crying abortion, and hold a gun in their other saying guns don't kill people after the Newtown, CT. shootings.

Most politicians aren't any better behaved than Trump is behind the scenes, we know Trumps' true colors, and I view Cruz and Clinton as too corrupt and deceitful. I say let him win and Republicans need to deal with it.

He's borderline crazy all right.

Ever since Donald Trump began claiming that he would build a wall along the entire Mexican border and that Mexico would pay for it, intelligent people have been asking how he intends to make them do that. Now we have our answer: Hell use the rebuilt military he creates to intimidate them into paying for it.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches ... KMsi0.dpuf

That's because he can't make them pay for it. It's a laughably crazy idea, but it isn't new, just too expensive and impractical.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/09/this-is- ... st-us.html
There's only one candidate I truly trust in this race, Bernie Sanders.
I realize Americans are fed up. I'm tired of the gridlock in Washington. That's what you get when you have a Republican congress that sets its No. 1 priority as opposing the President on EVERYTHING. You want to fix things? Fire your R congressmen.

[Danmark]

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[Bust Nak]

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[bluethread]

Saw Trump on Fox News Sunday say, "No one was hurt at our rallies" twice, right after they ran the tape of the man tagging the protester. I can see someone saying that they were rare, or even justified, but his tendency to make absolute statements of certitude when confronted with clear evidence to the contrary is just amazing.

[Elijah John]

Saw Trump on Fox News Sunday say, "No one was hurt at our rallies" twice, right after they ran the tape of the man tagging the protester. I can see someone saying that they were rare, or even justified, but his tendency to make absolute statements of certitude when confronted with clear evidence to the contrary is just amazing.

Couple more whoppers..

-"I've won all the debates, that's why we are where we are."

-"I'm beating Hillary Clinton in all the polls"

Most pundits have listed past debate winners as:

-Carly Fiorena
-Marco Rubio
-Ted Cruz
and even Jeb Bush for one or two of the debates...

But I sure don't remember anyone but Trump himself saying he won any of these debates, and I follow them closely.

And last I heard, Hillary was ahead of Trump by 9 points in the real clear average of polls.
That ain't winning.

And I just cannot understand how anyone can give Donald Trump a pass for inciting violence at his campaign rallies, with statements such as:

-"I'd like to punch (the protester) in the face"
-There was a time when someone like that would be carried out on a stretcher"
-"I'll pay his legal bills" referiing to a Trump supporter who did punch a protester in the face.

How especially can Evangelicals support this man?

[bluethread]

How especially can Evangelicals support this man?

I am disappointed at how well he has done in the bible belt, but I guess I am not surprised. I have found that a good many Evangelicals prefer thumping the bible over doing a serious study of it. The justification by Evangelical leaders, like Jeffers, based on their concern for people's dissatisfaction with representation in the past, is really disconcerting. I am more of the no compromise type. Telling people that something is acceptable, if it makes them feel better, is just not my understanding of what the Scriptures teach.

[Danmark]

An endorsement from former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin is expected to widen Donald J. Trumps already impressive lead among so-called idiot voters, an aide to the billionaire said on Tuesday.

While Trump was previously thought to have a lock on the idiot vote heading into the Iowa caucuses, a recent surge by Senator Ted Cruz, of Texas, has put the idiots back in play.


Cruz has worked tirelessly in recent weeks to tailor his message to undecided idiots, even revamping his stump speech to rid it of two-syllable words.

Thats why Palin supporting Trump and not Cruz is such a win for us, the Trump aide said. Shes been out of politics for awhile, but she still has idiot cred.
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz ... ong-idiots

[Danmark]

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/reich/art ... 878309.php
Ive been reluctant to use the f word to describe Donald Trump because its especially harsh, and its too often used carelessly.
But Trump has finally reached a point where parallels between his presidential campaign and the fascists of the first half of the 20th century " lurid figures such as Benito Mussolini, Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Oswald Mosley and Francisco Franco " are too evident to overlook.
_ Robert Reich

Excellent article! And right on the money. It is if millions of Americans are completely ignorant of the fascist nationalism that rose in the 1930's and culminated in the tragedy of WWII.

Trump is following in the fascist nationalistic tradition of Benito Mussolini, Joseph Stalin, and yes, Adolf Hitler. As I've said before, I agree with Reich that one should only reluctantly, sparingly use such comparisons, but with Trump they fit to a 'T.'

[bluethread]

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/reich/art ... 878309.php
Ive been reluctant to use the f word to describe Donald Trump because its especially harsh, and its too often used carelessly.
But Trump has finally reached a point where parallels between his presidential campaign and the fascists of the first half of the 20th century " lurid figures such as Benito Mussolini, Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Oswald Mosley and Francisco Franco " are too evident to overlook.
_ Robert Reich

Excellent article! And right on the money. It is if millions of Americans are completely ignorant of the fascist nationalism that rose in the 1930's and culminated in the tragedy of WWII.

Trump is following in the fascist nationalistic tradition of Benito Mussolini, Joseph Stalin, and yes, Adolf Hitler. As I've said before, I agree with Reich that one should only reluctantly, sparingly use such comparisons, but with Trump they fit to a 'T.'

You and Reich are calling Stalin a fascist? He killed people for less than that. Pardon the pun, but it is a bit ironic that Reich is criticizing authoritarian socialism.

[Danmark]

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/reich/art ... 878309.php
Ive been reluctant to use the f word to describe Donald Trump because its especially harsh, and its too often used carelessly.
But Trump has finally reached a point where parallels between his presidential campaign and the fascists of the first half of the 20th century " lurid figures such as Benito Mussolini, Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Oswald Mosley and Francisco Franco " are too evident to overlook.
_ Robert Reich

Excellent article! And right on the money. It is if millions of Americans are completely ignorant of the fascist nationalism that rose in the 1930's and culminated in the tragedy of WWII.

Trump is following in the fascist nationalistic tradition of Benito Mussolini, Joseph Stalin, and yes, Adolf Hitler. As I've said before, I agree with Reich that one should only reluctantly, sparingly use such comparisons, but with Trump they fit to a 'T.'

You and Reich are calling Stalin a fascist? He killed people for less than that. Pardon the pun, but it is a bit ironic that Reich is criticizing authoritarian socialism.

Stalin was a fascist dictator draped in communist garb. It is the unrepentant nationalism and the demagogic appeal to fears and hatred, to nationalistic bigotry and hatred of the 'other' religion that they have in common. The outrages of the left and the right often mirror each other. 'Left' and 'right' lose their meaning when authoritarianism becomes extreme. Forget the labels, look at the common tactics, the common appeal and rhetoric.