WHY DID GOD MAKE THE VARIOUS RACES?

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Why did God make the various races?

God mistakenly caused race differences
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Evolution / environment, not God, caused the differences.
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Racial barriers are a test to see how the Faithful treat their neighbor
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WHY DID GOD MAKE THE VARIOUS RACES?

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This summer it seems we are in a war between two races. Donald Trump would add another race (to the south of our border). If God is so loving and compassionate why is there so much disparity between blacks and whites? (Let the Hispanics out of it for now.) Is this violent clashing of the races for "His" entertainment? Is He playing us?

I dont think so because a wonderfully loving Creator wouldnt have mankind at each others throats " so, there is the answer: This god that everyone talks about just does not exist!

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?
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[Replying to JLB32168]
JLB32168 wrote: Man if fallen. He fears death. This means that he feels me must have as many toys as he can have while hes living. This means losing a position of privilege.
I'm a man and I haven't fallen from anything. I don't fear death either. I use to be terrified of Frankenstein when I was a boy. But I grew out of it when I grew up.
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Tired of the Nonsense wrote:I'm a man and I haven't fallen from anything.
And youre free to believe that but Christian theology says otherwise. Im not saying that youre less virtuous than anyone else. Indeed you might go to heaven before I do but the theology says that all men are fallen. You are a [hu]man. You are fallen.

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2Dbunk wrote:Man HAS BEEN trying to right this disparity but after 150 -200 years we still have obvious injustice, which doesn't pre-suppose that "God" exists.
And no one said that it pre-supposed that God existed. The OP asked Christians why oppression existed. Im a Christian and gave the reason. I didnt tell anything that s/he had to defer to what I said.

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JLB32168 wrote:
Tired of the Nonsense wrote:I'm a man and I haven't fallen from anything.
And youre free to believe that but Christian theology says otherwise. Im not saying that youre less virtuous than anyone else. Indeed you might go to heaven before I do but the theology says that all men are fallen. You are a [hu]man. You are fallen.
Muslim theology makes a number of claims about the status of humankind. As do Hinduism and Buddhism. Do you care? Are you bound by these claims whether you like it or not? Or are the ruminations of these religions entirely meaningless to you? Because they are entirely meaningless to me. Just as yours are.
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Tired of the Nonsense wrote: Muslim theology makes a number of claims about the status of humankind. As do Hinduism and Buddhism. Do you care?
No " I dont care and Im not bound by those claims. If they say, This is the teaching of our faith I dont get bent out of shape about it like you do " specifically because I dont think Im bound by these claims.

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JLB32168 wrote: If they say, This is the teaching of our faith I dont get bent out of shape about it like you do " specifically because I dont think Im bound by these claims.
Will you likely "get bent out of shape" if / when Muslims begin injecting their beliefs into laws and forcing others (you) to abide?

Christianity has been doing exactly that for many centuries -- and is still attempting to influence public policy and laws to reflect its religious teachings.
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No, physical differences are not social constructs. Giving them significance is. Biological "race" is not as defined as has been promoted. Human diversity is a range, ie. the constructs of bi-racial and multi-racial to maintain the integrity of the "race" concept. Isolation creates monoculture and when isolated communities have occasional interaction, those differences are noted and significance is applied to them.
You must be a lawyer. Only a gifted attorney could defend the notion of a god purposefully separating the races and, to be sure, they are separated if you have a functioning eye or two and a brain to process the data. If there is a "range" it has been a natural selection process of mankind that you no doubt would call a "sin."
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Zzyzx wrote: Will you likely "get bent out of shape" if / when Muslims begin injecting their beliefs into laws and forcing others (you) to abide?
Muslims and Christians think that killing is wrong. Do you take issue with their interjection of beliefs into laws and forcing you to abide by laws informed by those beliefs?

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Readers will decide if that is a VERY weak argument.
JLB32168 wrote:
Zzyzx wrote: Will you likely "get bent out of shape" if / when Muslims begin injecting their beliefs into laws and forcing others (you) to abide?
Muslims and Christians think that killing is wrong.
Correction: Muslims evidently think that honor killing is right and that killing infidels is right. Many Christians think that killing "witches" or homosexuals or adulteresses is right. Neither religion seems to have, or have had, difficulty accepting killing of opponents of their faith.
JLB32168 wrote: Do you take issue with their interjection of beliefs into laws and forcing you to abide by laws informed by those beliefs?
Muslims think that praying less than five times a day (or whatever) is wrong, that women appearing in public without being completely covered / without male family supervision / driving automobiles / etc is wrong -- and that "honor killings" are right.

I do not care to live in a society that enforces those religious beliefs. Do you?
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Zzyzx wrote: Readers will decide if that is a VERY weak argument.
Indeed.
Zzyzx wrote:Muslims evidently think that honor killing is right and that killing infidels is right.
Most Muslims dont kill people and Islam refers to Jews and Christians as people of the book. Only in modern times have the two groups become hated by the most radical elements of the Muslim world.
Zzyzx wrote:Many Christians think that killing "witches" or homosexuals or adulteresses is right.
I think you have a novel interpretation of what many means. African-Americans are by far the most observant Christians in the US and I have NEVER heard an African-American minister argue for capital punishment for witches or homosexuals.
Zzyzx wrote:Neither religion seems to have, or have had, difficulty accepting killing of opponents of their faith.
Atheist dont seem to have a problem killing opponents of their cause clbre. Whats your point?
Zzyzx wrote:Muslims think that praying less than five times a day (or whatever) is wrong, that women appearing in public without being completely covered / without male family supervision / driving automobiles / etc is wrong -- and that "honor killings" are right.
Your generalizations of Muslims would be called Islamophobia by many Muslims.
Do you take issue with people walking naked down the street? Nudists think your prudish imposition of your morals upon them is wrong. Is there a point you want to make?

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