Judeo-Christian Doctrine is Sexist

[Skullymund]

[font=Times New Roman]Religion has been the greatest oppressor of women's rights throughout the history of man. Judeo-Christian doctrine preaches that women are second rate to men: "Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14) The old testament was much more gruesome: "Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go." (Judges 19:24-25)

There are so many things wrong with the bible, it is often difficult to know where to begin when refuting or criticizing it. The subjugation of women has been one of the greatest detracting forces on society. The best way to cure poverty is the empowerment and education of women, and for too long have the religions of the world preached the madness that woman are property to men, on the level of cattle. People such as Christopher Hitchens or Sam Harris write about a future in which we can be free of the shackles of wish thinking, of a more humanistic world in which we derive morals not from ancient religious texts, but from a discussion of the human condition as it exists in reality, and how we can improve lives and reduce suffering.

Any sort of religion that preaches for the subjugation of women should be looked at not as sacred, but as barbaric, and at best written by the hands of man, not those of God. It is clear that any sort of faith that is so disgusted by a woman's vagina, and the sorts of things that relate to it, must be written not by a divine and loving creator, but by ignorant, iron-aged men.

Feel free to challenge my views.[/font]

[OpenYourEyes]

[Replying to post 106 by OpenYourEyes]
I didn't research much prior to my dropping the religion? Oh how little you know of me....
I expect an apology.

You misunderstood my statement. I was clearly referring to your research on the topic of the thread regarding the Bible doctrine being sexist. I'll quote the relevant part of my previous post to you:

I'm not sure why you left Christianity, but on this issue it seems that you didn't research much since you've only referred to one professor and his general explanation.

[rikuoamero]

[Replying to post 106 by OpenYourEyes]
I didn't research much prior to my dropping the religion? Oh how little you know of me....
I expect an apology.

You misunderstood my statement. I was clearly referring to your research on the objection that Bible doctrine is sexist. I'll quote the relevant part of my previous post to you:

I'm not sure why you left Christianity, but on this issue it seems that you didn't research much since you've only referred to one professor and his general explanation.

My opining of what my religion teacher said to me over a decade ago DOES NOT constitute the full breadth of my knowledge on the subject. I said that to indicate what an actual Christian priest engaged in the career of religious education told his students what 'the' reason was for no female priests.
Need I remind you that RCC priests have to undergo years of study before earning their collar?

[OpenYourEyes]

[Replying to post 106 by OpenYourEyes]
I didn't research much prior to my dropping the religion? Oh how little you know of me....
I expect an apology.

You misunderstood my statement. I was clearly referring to your research on the objection that Bible doctrine is sexist. I'll quote the relevant part of my previous post to you:

I'm not sure why you left Christianity, but on this issue it seems that you didn't research much since you've only referred to one professor and his general explanation.

My opining of what my religion teacher said to me over a decade ago DOES NOT constitute the full breadth of my knowledge on the subject. I said that to indicate what an actual Christian priest engaged in the career of religious education told his students what 'the' reason was for no female priests.
Need I remind you that RCC priests have to undergo years of study before earning their collar?

If you found his answer unsatisfactory or insufficient, as you indicated in one of your post that it was unsatisfactory to you, then why didn't you ask him for further details? Why didn't you consult other sources before drawing your conclusion? Or perhaps he could've referred you to someone who had more insight on the matter?

Btw, I'm not sure what curriculum the RCC has for its priests, but being a priest does not necessarily make you a Christian apologist. There are graduate level programs devoted just to Christian apologetics.

[rikuoamero]

[Replying to post 106 by OpenYourEyes]
I didn't research much prior to my dropping the religion? Oh how little you know of me....
I expect an apology.

You misunderstood my statement. I was clearly referring to your research on the objection that Bible doctrine is sexist. I'll quote the relevant part of my previous post to you:

I'm not sure why you left Christianity, but on this issue it seems that you didn't research much since you've only referred to one professor and his general explanation.

My opining of what my religion teacher said to me over a decade ago DOES NOT constitute the full breadth of my knowledge on the subject. I said that to indicate what an actual Christian priest engaged in the career of religious education told his students what 'the' reason was for no female priests.
Need I remind you that RCC priests have to undergo years of study before earning their collar?

If you found his answer unsatisfactory or insufficient, as you indicated in one of your post that it was unsatisfactory to you, then why didn't you ask him for further details? Why didn't you consult other sources before drawing your conclusion? Or perhaps he could've referred you to someone who had more insight on the matter?

Btw, I'm not sure what curriculum the RCC has for its priests, but being a priest does not necessarily make you a Christian apologist. There are graduate level programs devoted just to Christian apologetics.

At the time I wasn't interested in pressing him. I asked, got the reason he gave and at the time gave him and his religion a pass, meaning I didn't want to go any further. It wasn't until some years later, after he was no longer my teacher, that I began exploring the religion in depth. As for his education level, again he was educated in seminary for a number of years and had degrees in world religions (not just his own) marketing and business. He could also read and speak Greek, but I'm unsure as to his skill in Latin.
Are you implying that someone who doesn't go for the apologist courses you mentioned simply wouldn't know the 'real' reason for no female priests?