Blastcat wrote:
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Replying to post 4 by Yahu]
Yahu wrote:
Are rocks more real then Love? or aliens?
You are not comparing apples to apples. So the entire debate is ridiculous.
Is the matrix real for Neo? Reality is subjective to the experiences of the tester.
I'm a little confused.
Do you want to discuss this or don't you?
If it's too ridiculous, forget it, right?
If you are really interested, then I will answer your questions.
But it would be NICE if you first started with answering the question yourself.
Just so we can be clear as to your position.
I will await your reply.
I don't have a position. There is no correct answer. Is Yah real to me? Absolutely. Can I show that to you like I can show you a rock? No
Have I shown people that Yah is real? Yes, but it took divine intervention. The circumstances were bizarre.
I randomly met a girl in a bar. I had never been there before or since. I wasn't even trying to pick up any women. She was using advice I had given my ex-wife 4 years before, across the country. It turned out her sister was stationed with my ex-wife in the Air Force on her new base. I had separated years before and was in college. My ex-wife had given her sister advice about men and she was using that advice on me that she had gotten from her sister while I was trying to excuse myself past her to order a round of beers for my frat brothers. I wasn't even trying to pick her up. I asked her about it and told her I was the origin of that advice. She called me a liar.
Then it turned out I had also given a friend of hers rape counseling and had given that girl the same advise. She accused me of lying about that too. She and her friends even called the girl and found out I was telling the truth. I gave her and her friends the entire back story of me and my wife. I even chewed her out for her behavior towards me. I hadn't been lying about that aspect and it was proved.
I ran into her a few months later at her college. She had asked her sister about where she had gotten the advice and found out my ex-wife was her sister's supervisor. She then contacted my ex and got the story from her side. Everything I had told her had been confirmed as truth.
I gave Cynthia the advice on our base in California during our courtship. She had changed careers and was now a nurse in Ohio stationed with the girl's sister. I didn't even know my ex was no longer in California.
Everything I had told her that she swore I was lying about turned out to be absolute truth. Then she witnessed me give another girl at her college a prophetic word and felt the power behind it. She said 'if that was God speaking through you, that is a god I could follow.' She got saved then got the baptism of the spirit, spoke in tongues and starting to prophecy herself, both of which shocked her and she actual felt the anointing flowing into her during the baptism of the spirit. She said, I thought God was just something you believed in or not. I had no idea how real He is.
Now was that all just random bizarre chance? Just the story of how I lost my wife is an exceedingly bizarre story. I lost my wife in a major conflict with a coven of witches and over 100 people were prosecuted as a result and about a dozen dead. Then she got to hear from my ex and get the same story from her side confirming it all.
Could that have been by divine appointment? Was there something special about that girl that Yah went to such events to draw her to salvation? Well she did turn out to be a prophetess which is not very common even among Christians.
So which is more real God or witchcraft? I will bet my life that they are BOTH equally real. I have had personal experience with both. I have had experience as a Christian battling witchcraft directly and people died in that conflict.
Of course someone with no experience with either witchcraft or spiritual aspects of the gifts of Yah can't or won't except without overwhelming proof for themselves. Proving the existence of a rock is easy.
Something is either real or not. It is the proof that is more difficult for things like God or witchcraft. So NO a rock is not MORE REAL then God. It is just harder to prove God is real to an individual without the experiences needed.
