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Are gays going too far?

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This is what good Christians mean when they say there is an agenda! Please read and then answer this:
What will the world look like if the gays win and continue to convert our children over to their sick, sinful world? If Christians don't win this one, what might the world look like? When you get up in the morning, what would you see? Naked men in your front yard? What?

'98 Homosexual-Recruitment Drive Nearing Goal
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July 29, 1998 | Issue 3326

SAN FRANCISCOSpokespersons for the National Gay & Lesbian Recruitment Task Force announced Monday that more than 288,000 straights have been converted to homosexuality since Jan. 1, 1998, putting the group well on pace to reach its goal of 350,000 conversions by the end of the year.
seven months of 1998, nearly 300,000 heterosexuals were ensnared in the Pink Triangle," said NGLRTF co-director Patricia Emmonds. "Clearly, the activist homosexual lobby is winning."

Emmonds credited much of the recruiting success to the gay lobby's infiltration of America's public schools, where programs promoting the homosexual lifestyle are regularly presented to children as young as 5.

Lansing, MI, fifth-grade teacher Margaret Gerhardt. Gerhardt's is one of countless elementary-school classes across the U.S. in which the homosexual agenda and lifestyle are actively promoted.

"It's crucial that we reach these kids while they're still young," Emmonds said. "That's when they're most vulnerable to our message of sexual promiscuity and deviance."

"When I grow up, I want to be gay," said Christopher Linn, 8, a second-grader at Philadelphia's Lakeside Elementary School, one of thousands of public schools nationwide that actively promote the homosexual agenda. "I don't want to have a family or go to church."

"Straight people don't have any fun," said Teddy Nance, 11, after watching Breeders Are Boring!, an anti-heterosexual filmstrip, in his fifth-grade class at Crestwood Elementary School in Roanoke, VA. "Gay people get to do whatever they want."

In addition to school programs that target youths, the NGLRTF launched a $630 million advertising campaign this year in an effort to convert adults to homosexuality. The campaign, which features TV and radio spots, as well as print advertising in major national magazines, has helped convince thousands of people to leave their spouses and families for a life of self-gratification and irresponsibility.

"The gay lifestyle is for me," said James Miller, an Oklahoma City father of four who recently moved to Provincetown, MA, to pursue a career in bath-house management. "When I was a family man, I constantly had to worry about things like taking the kids to Little League practice, paying for their braces, and remembering my wife's birthday. But now that I'm gay, I'm finally free to focus all my energy on having non-stop, mind-blowing anal sex."

Though Emmonds said gays have been tremendously successful in tearing at the fabric of society and subverting basic decency, she stressed that their work is far from over.

"For all the progress we've made, America is still overwhelmingly heterosexual," said Emmonds, who is calling for an additional $2.6 billion in federal aid to further the gay agenda. "If we are to insidiously penetrate American society, as we constantly do each other's orifices, we need more money and resources. Without such help, this country will remain the domain of decent, moral, God-fearing Christians. And that would be a sin."
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methylatedghosts wrote:
achilles12604 wrote:God can read the hearts of men. hence his judgement would be perfect. For good or bad, his judgement is 100%.
100% what?
As for the inability to chose being proof that God created them to be sinners, I disagree slightly (big surprise). God created all men and all men are born desiring to sin. So in essence God created all men as sinners, to break away from sin and get past it. whatever the sin is, the pattern is the same. I do not put homosexuality into a special catagory. It fits in with other things that the bible declares are sin yet men consistantly desire to do.
So God puts gay people through a much tougher situation than others? Because they've got all the other sins to worry about as well. Straight people therefore are at an advantage. Is god this unfair? Because it really seems to be....
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As for gays being tougher, first I'll point out that life isn't fair. Too bad. Oh well. Second I point out that it is possible that Gays don't have predisposition to commit other sins that straight people do. So the balance is made and the circle of life keeps on singing.

The possibilities are endless
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achilles12604 wrote:Second I point out that it is possible that Gays don't have predisposition to commit other sins that straight people do. So the balance is made and the circle of life keeps on singing.
Like which ones? I mean, aren't gay people just as likely to commit all the other sins? (aside from taking the neighbours wife - in which case it could be the husband if we're talking about a gay guy)
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methylatedghosts wrote:
achilles12604 wrote:Second I point out that it is possible that Gays don't have predisposition to commit other sins that straight people do. So the balance is made and the circle of life keeps on singing.
Like which ones? I mean, aren't gay people just as likely to commit all the other sins? (aside from taking the neighbours wife - in which case it could be the husband if we're talking about a gay guy)
I'm not here to debate the if's of divine planning. I just offered it as another possibility. You ignored my primary suggestion as well (just pointing it out)
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achilles12604 wrote: I'm not here to debate the if's of divine planning. I just offered it as another possibility. You ignored my primary suggestion as well (just pointing it out)
Oops, sorry.

Ok, no, life isn't fair always, so does this mean god isn't? Does this mean god selects who does and who doesn't have an easy life? By which rule of thumb does he decide?
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methylatedghosts wrote:
achilles12604 wrote: I'm not here to debate the if's of divine planning. I just offered it as another possibility. You ignored my primary suggestion as well (just pointing it out)
Oops, sorry.

Ok, no, life isn't fair always, so does this mean god isn't? Does this mean god selects who does and who doesn't have an easy life? By which rule of thumb does he decide?
Since material goods are not super important to God (or to many humans it seems), what does it really matter?

I would note that many (very many) poor people are still extreamly happy individuals while many rich people are depressed enough to kill themselves, end up in rehab and or jail. Seems money distrbution is almost inversly purportional to happiness in a lot of cases.
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achilles12604 wrote:
methylatedghosts wrote:
achilles12604 wrote: I'm not here to debate the if's of divine planning. I just offered it as another possibility. You ignored my primary suggestion as well (just pointing it out)
Oops, sorry.

Ok, no, life isn't fair always, so does this mean god isn't? Does this mean god selects who does and who doesn't have an easy life? By which rule of thumb does he decide?
Since material goods are not super important to God (or to many humans it seems), what does it really matter?

I would note that many (very many) poor people are still extreamly happy individuals while many rich people are depressed enough to kill themselves, end up in rehab and or jail. Seems money distrbution is almost inversly purportional to happiness in a lot of cases.
I made this one up.
Money can't buy you love but it make a great down payment. Yeah I feel sorry for the rich and their miserable existence.
I guess some people don't kill themselves because they are to busy trying to get food. Then there are those that need drugs so they don't kill themselves painfully.
If God cares so little for wealth and material goods why does he reward Job after he wins the bet with such abundance? How come the so called prophecies about the kingdom and the Messiah talk about all the wealth flowing to the temple or out?
I think there is something to caring for the poor, the orphan and the widow. Let Justice flow like water.
But then the is the rich TV preacher asking the poor to give so they can get back.

The poor just pay, go to Jail or both.

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Cathar1950 wrote:
achilles12604 wrote:
methylatedghosts wrote:
achilles12604 wrote: I'm not here to debate the if's of divine planning. I just offered it as another possibility. You ignored my primary suggestion as well (just pointing it out)
Oops, sorry.

Ok, no, life isn't fair always, so does this mean god isn't? Does this mean god selects who does and who doesn't have an easy life? By which rule of thumb does he decide?
Since material goods are not super important to God (or to many humans it seems), what does it really matter?

I would note that many (very many) poor people are still extreamly happy individuals while many rich people are depressed enough to kill themselves, end up in rehab and or jail. Seems money distrbution is almost inversly purportional to happiness in a lot of cases.
I made this one up.
Money can't buy you love but it make a great down payment. Yeah I feel sorry for the rich and their miserable existence.
I guess some people don't kill themselves because they are to busy trying to get food. Then there are those that need drugs so they don't kill themselves painfully.
If God cares so little for wealth and material goods why does he reward Job after he wins the bet with such abundance? How come the so called prophecies about the kingdom and the Messiah talk about all the wealth flowing to the temple or out?
I think there is something to caring for the poor, the orphan and the widow. Let Justice flow like water.
But then the is the rich TV preacher asking the poor to give so they can get back.

The poor just pay, go to Jail or both.
I'm not convinced Job was an actual person. That whole story strikes me as just that, an inspirational story. But even if it were true, I'm not one to question God or his choices.

Notice who made up most of Jesus followers. . . The poor. Yet Jesus didn't give them great wealth. So if wealth is what matters, explain why they were following him when he wasn't offering them anything but words?
It is a first class human tragedy that people of the earth who claim to believe in the message of Jesus, whom they describe as the Prince of Peace, show little of that belief in actual practice.

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I'm glad to see Cmass and achilles are finally understanding each other. I was beginning to wonder there for a while.

I am donating 10 tokens to achilles for remaining an extreme gentleman throughout the misunderstanding.

Cmass gets a wink, wink, nudge, nudge, and say no more. ;)

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achilles12604 wrote:
I'm not convinced Job was an actual person. That whole story strikes me as just that, an inspirational story. But even if it were true, I'm not one to question God or his choices.

Notice who made up most of Jesus followers. . . The poor. Yet Jesus didn't give them great wealth. So if wealth is what matters, explain why they were following him when he wasn't offering them anything but words?
I can't resist. I feel like a fat man in a donut shop.

The basic story of Job predates any bible story and is one of the oldest stories.
What I get out of it was that God is just saying, I am doing the best I can, do you want to try it? Where were you when I was messing with all this stuff slaying monsters and creating a world? But it points out that all conventional wisdom and judgments with you are sick because you are bad and all this stuff is your fault is crap. The weather isnt bad because there is a gay person living next to you. You were not born cripple because your mom and dad sinned with idols or something God knew you were going to think or do in the future. Or he is just trying to make you strong where the ones walking are obviously strong enough.
But I like the questioning God.


As far as the poor and Jesus we dont know the status of his followers but they were not all poor even if some called themselves the poor (Ebonite) or the righteous (Nazarene).
As far as early gentile Christianity, of which you are a representative, it seems to have been popular among the middle class and even wealthy mostly Diaspora Jews and Gnostics among others. Granted there is a few strains of anti-worldly ideas and communities but for the most part the Christian world flourished in the same places where there was upheaval, wealth and Diaspora Jews. The mystery religions were also popular in the same demographics.
I am not sure the gospels can give us an accurate example of people that followed Jesus. The way it is presented in some of the gospels everyone liked him but rich religious Jews that pushed the poor unsuspecting Romans around.
What about all the people that followed other messiahs around? Many more died then Christians. Do you think they just did it for words?

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I'm glad to see Cmass and achilles are finally understanding each other. I was beginning to wonder there for a while.

I am donating 10 tokens to achilles for remaining an extreme gentleman throughout the misunderstanding.

Cmass gets a wink, wink, nudge, nudge, and say no more.


Actually, Achilles is on my friend list and I happen to know he is a wonderful chap.
You reminded me, however, I intended to give him 50 tokens for his excellent work.
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