Which of these Holy Books are divinely inspired?

[polonius]

Most of the world's major religions have holy books. Each are considered to be inspired by the members of certain religions.

Which do you think are divinely inspired and which are not?

And how do you know?

[PghPanther]

[Replying to polonius.advice]

To believe any divine inspiration would assume the divine exists..........which we have no evidence that any divine providence of any kind even exists......so that kinda leaves all these claims as SOL.........

[Clownboat]

"if you were inventing a religion, would you not claim that god was behind [...] its holy book?"

Yes, you would think so. The rarity of such a claim is in itself telling.

I just don't understand what is impressive about such a claim ...

Yes, I get that , but my point is "impressive" or not, it's RARE. So are you agreeing with me that the claim *IS* in fact rare or are you suggesting I am wrong and it is common? If it's not in the bible, then its even LESS common and my point even more correct. So rare or common? That's the only question I'm asking.

Before I am able to answer your question about its rarity, you need to answer the question I posed to you that you removed when you quoted me.

(What was removed)
"How many of the 66 books in the Bible actually make this claim though?"

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 42 by Clownboat]

If your answer is dependant on the bible then you have answered my question; and if your answer is dependant on me you don't know enough about the subject to make an significant contribution to it.

JW

[marco]

In short the purpose of a book of divine origin would presumably to put mankind in communication with God, for that one then to author such a book and not ensure that it's origins were clearly contained in the book is like someone telling you to "call you" but not providing you with the number; being deliberately obscure leaves one to question the authenticity of the offer.

I sense there is a statement there somewhere but its expression is as mystic as Revelation. Can it be re-phrased?

Still even if this latter option were a reality, it STILL seems logical to begin one's search, on the premise that the claim itself exists and only widen the net after the legitimacy of those that do claim to be of divine origin has been rejected upon further examination.

Welcome to the atheist club - that is what we do, and we happily reject what has every appearance of being false. I wonder how you would justify accepting the Bible while rejecting the Koran. I suspect it's just a matter of choosing red over green.

[OnceConvinced]

Of course one can presume that the Divine Book is of divine origin without making the claim of being such, but in that case one could legitimately ask why, if God exists and (presumably) authored a book for mankind, he would neglect to, at the very least include this fact within its pages.

Because "God works in mysterious ways"? I could ask the same thing about why God doesn't show himself. God likes hiding for some reason. I see no inconsistency in God hiding his authorship in these holy texts.

That could very well be, but really if a book is divine, then it should be obvious that it is. God shouldn't need to tell us.

The bible has proven not to be divine... at least in my 40+ years of experience.

[Clownboat]

[Replying to post 42 by Clownboat]

If your answer is dependant on the bible then you have answered my question; and if your answer is dependant on me you don't know enough about the subject to make an significant contribution to it.

JW

God hasn't given you the spirit of fear JW, but of power, love and a sound mind. Yes?
No?

Let's use your logic shall we? Since you cannot answer the question, you must therefore not know enough about the subject to make a significant contribution.

You can't seem to spell dependent either, therefore...

Using your logic makes me feel ashamed...

[JehovahsWitness]

That could very well be, but really if a book is divine, then it should be obvious that it is. God shouldn't need to tell us.

I agree to an extent, the inclusion of its origin would not be the end of an investigation but what would be the reason not to include that information? Further, how many "holy books" are considered to contain the words of Almighty God? I'd be interested if even that is a common belief.

I should think most are considered words of devout and holy men, traditional stories about the gods, instructions for holy living etc. but how many believers consider their books the actual words and thoughts of Almighty God the Creator (or of their multiple gods if they don't have one)?

I don't know the answer to that question, maybe someone else here does.

[Clownboat]

That could very well be, but really if a book is divine, then it should be obvious that it is. God shouldn't need to tell us.

I agree to an extent, the inclusion of its origin would not be the end of an investigation but what would be the reason not to include that information? Further, how many "holy books" are considered to contain the words of Almighty God? I'd be interested if even that is a common belief.

I should think most are considered words of devout and holy men, traditional stories about the gods, instructions for holy living etc. but how many believers consider their books the actual words and thoughts of Almighty God the Creator (or of their multiple gods if they don't have one)?

I don't know the answer to that question, maybe someone else here does.

(To the bold)
Trying to slay us with irony?

if your answer is dependant on me you don't know enough about the subject to make an significant contribution to it.

How many of the 66 books of the Bible claim to be divine? How many of the 66 books claim to be the thoughts of an almighty creator god?

These types of claims seem important to you for some reason, have you not investigated them to see which books of the Bible even make the said claim? I personally think that this information is very relevant to the point you are trying to make.

I'm trying to determine if your criteria is a verse saying "and God said" for example, or if you are looking for actual claims that the said book is divine or divinely inspired. "God said" is throughout the Bible, but it seems you are arguing for more than just that.

[Talishi]

How many of the 66 books of the Bible claim to be divine? How many of the 66 books claim to be the thoughts of an almighty creator god?

At least one book has a counter-claim to divinity, in part.

1 Cor 7:12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away

[JLB32168]

I let go of religion, and people become serene.

The Bolsheviks didn't get the memo.